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Reply #60 - Mar 31st, 2012 at 9:11pm
 
Jan wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 1:39am:
falah wrote on Mar 30th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
There are a lot of Walter Mitty characters on Ozpolitics.

It would seem that the administrators have invented a lot of characters to suit their agenda.


I'm glad someone else has picked up on that little ruse ...

I am leaving them to themselves, and will not play their game anymore by answering with the truth just so they can trash it with the same corrupt lies and insults over and over, and never offering any truth to support their denials.

Avram is a stooge or FD, Soren is either FD himself or his bum buddy, and all the others are doubtful as well.

Truth seekers and genuine activists should leave these idiot to their own devices and let them post to each other in their mutual admiration society.

This forum is a trap. No-one but globalist zionists would deny the obvious concerning USrael and their Regime change and Palestinian attrocities ... They will never admit their guilt.





Bozos, just because you come across lotsa people who disagree with you and they all think you are idiots doesn't mean it's just one person. Mebbe you are idiots and lotsa peopl can see that. This has evidently never occured to either of you. But it is a sign, Bozos, a sign.
A sign of you both being unreflecting idiots.

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Reply #61 - Apr 1st, 2012 at 7:23pm
 
Jan wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 1:39am:
This forum is a trap. No-one but globalist zionists would deny the obvious concerning USrael and their Regime change and Palestinian attrocities ... They will never admit their guilt.


 



Zionism is some thing to be proud.

Homeland for Jewish people in the land where we belongs.

I has pride to fight for Israel -- like my father and uncles before me.
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Reply #62 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 6:54am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 1st, 2012 at 7:23pm:
Zionism is some thing to be proud.

Homeland for Jewish people in the land where we belongs.

I has pride to fight for Israel -- like my father and uncles before me.


Zionism is nothing but the Nazism of Jews. It's the nationalist supremacist ideology that believes trampling all over an entire other nation just to pursue nationalist goals is fine.

If you're proud of that, then you're a poor excuse for a human.
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Reply #63 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:43pm
 
And what about the global caliphate?
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Reply #64 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 7:47pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:43pm:
And what about the global caliphate?


The Caliphate is the diametric opposite of Nazism/Zionism. It rejects outright the concept of nationalist supremacy. Under Islam, nationalism is considered a disease, that should be eradicated.
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Reply #65 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:21pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 6:54am:
nationalist supremacist ideology that believes trampling all over an entire other nation just to pursue nationalist goals is fine.




"a nationalist supremacist ideology that believes trampling all over the entire world just to pursue nationalist religious goals".


That sounds just like global jihad.

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Reply #66 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:25pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 7:47pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:43pm:
And what about the global caliphate?


The Caliphate is the diametric opposite of Nazism/Zionism. It rejects outright the concept of nationalist supremacy. Under Islam, nationalism is considered a disease, that should be eradicated.



Eradicate. You bearded numpties love the concept, dontcha?

SO all this Muslim migration to various democraciies is, ultimately, in service of the eradication of those democratic countries who have not asked you to eradicate them, who took you in or tolerate you on the explicit grounds that you will NOT harm them, let alone aim to eradicate them.

But you are not to be trusted because your heart is set on their eradication.

The hoof is showing, once again.



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Reply #67 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:16pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:25pm:
Eradicate. You bearded numpties love the concept, dontcha?

SO all this Muslim migration to various democraciies is, ultimately, in service of the eradication of those democratic countries who have not asked you to eradicate them, who took you in or tolerate you on the explicit grounds that you will NOT harm them, let alone aim to eradicate them.

But you are not to be trusted because your heart is set on their eradication.

The hoof is showing, once again.


Isn't that what you love about the Zionists? Their ability to completely saturate a country through illegal and stealth immigration, then form militias, and take it over by force when the locals wake up to the reality of what's happening? And then to eradicate the original inhabitants?

You should be glad we're adopting the ways of your beloved people. You no like when it happen to you?
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Reply #68 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 8:34pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:16pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:25pm:
Eradicate. You bearded numpties love the concept, dontcha?

SO all this Muslim migration to various democraciies is, ultimately, in service of the eradication of those democratic countries who have not asked you to eradicate them, who took you in or tolerate you on the explicit grounds that you will NOT harm them, let alone aim to eradicate them.

But you are not to be trusted because your heart is set on their eradication.

The hoof is showing, once again.


Isn't that what you love about the Zionists? Their ability to completely saturate a country through illegal and stealth immigration, then form militias, and take it over by force when the locals wake up to the reality of what's happening? And then to eradicate the original inhabitants?

You should be glad we're adopting the ways of your beloved people. You no like when it happen to you?



The jews are not 'saturating' any place except their own, Israel. There is no dreaming of a o9rldwide Jewish 'caliphate', there is no killing of Jewish 'apostates' (ie peopl who ask questions), there is no embassy burning if you crack a Jewish joke or draw  hook-nosed caricature. Jewish fathers and brothers do not murder their daughters if she goes out with a goy.

Iran organised a holocaust cartoon competition in recent years. Looney Leunig was the Australian entrant. I didn't hear about embassies being burned down by angry Jewish mobs. Did you?




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Reply #69 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:59am
 
Stick to the point. You were complaining about Muslims immigrating to Australia and supposedly harbouring secret plans to undermine its way of life.

Just like your mates did to Palestine.

I think you know full well you've not got a leg to stand on with this issue, hence your attempt to now slide it aside and talk about all this global world domination nonsense.
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Reply #70 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:44pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 7:47pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:43pm:
And what about the global caliphate?


The Caliphate is the diametric opposite of Nazism/Zionism. It rejects outright the concept of nationalist supremacy. Under Islam, nationalism is considered a disease, that should be eradicated.


Thanks, Abu. That's a relief.

It sounds like Islam has a lot in common with the old boy. He thinks northern Europeans are Aussies.

Seriously though, I didn't see many cheese-eaters joining the crew during the Cronulla riots. Actually, if they had a bit of a tan, I reckon they would have been in for a bit of a touch up along with the curries and the Lebs.

And how many mates would they get to back them up?

Nah, I'm with you, son. Nationalism is a disease that should be erradicated.
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Reply #71 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 9:30pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:59am:
Stick to the point. You were complaining about Muslims immigrating to Australia and supposedly harbouring secret plans to undermine its way of life.

Just like your mates did to Palestine.

I think you know full well you've not got a leg to stand on with this issue, hence your attempt to now slide it aside and talk about all this global world domination nonsense.



Israel belongs to the Jews. The Muslim Arabs have been interlopers all along (as are all Muslims anywhere around the Medeterreanen outside Araby.) Islam is an Arab attempt to displace the Jews as God's chosen people. In this, it's only motivating force, it is a cult of resentment and rancour.

Islam has no intrinsic intellectual persuasive force, it has spread only by the sword and by deceit. There is nothing new in Islam, except the compulsion, on pain of death, to take a semi-literate trader at his word.
"Gabriel told me so". Pathetic, childish, fit only for illiterate, hungry, horny tribal warriors.

Islam is a cult of Mohammed. It is based entirely on what Mohammed said and did. No wonder it resembles Stalinism and Hitlerism so startingly.


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Reply #72 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 3:31am
 
Soren wrote on Apr 4th, 2012 at 8:34pm:
[quote author=5A594E64495A4853525F3B0 link=1332061805/67#67 date=1333458966]The jews are not 'saturating' any place except their own, Israel. There is no dreaming of a o9rldwide Jewish 'caliphate', there is no killing of Jewish 'apostates' (ie peopl who ask questions), there is no embassy burning if you crack a Jewish joke or draw  hook-nosed caricature. Jewish fathers and brothers do not murder their daughters if she goes out with a goy.

Apostate (noun) ... a person who forsakes his religion, cause, party, etc.

Of course they don't do those things. They don't have to, they just create more laws to protect them and get involved in their host country's politics.

Intermarriage was historically looked upon with very strong disfavour by Jewish leaders, and it remains a controversial issue amongst Jewish leaders today. In the Talmud, interfaith marriage is completely prohibited

Jews continue to saturate Australian Politics and business.
Australian politics and the Jewish community

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=3519

From wiki...
The history of the Jews in Australia dates back to 1788, when a number of Jews were among the convicts brought to the country aboard the First Fleet to establish the first European settlement on the continent, on the site of present-day Sydney. Today, an estimated 120,000 Jews live in Australia. The majority are Ashkenazi Jews, many of them refugees and Holocaust survivors who arrived during and after World War II. There is also a significant Sephardic Jewish population.

Jews have been mayors of nearly all the capital cities of Australia, as well as of many smaller towns. Numerous Jews have sat in the State and Commonwealth parliaments; and, in proportion to the population, a large percentage have held ministerial portfolios. The first Jew appointed to the Colonial Parliament of New South Wales' Legislative Council in 1854 was prominent merchant,
Sir Saul Samuel
, who subsequently became a member of the Legislative Assembly and Treasurer and the first Jew to become a minister of the Crown.

Several Jews have served as State Governors and as Chief Justices of particular states.
Sir Julian Salomons
was Chief Justice of New South Wales for a fortnight in 1886; the position of Chief Justice of NSW was held by
James Spigelman
from 19 May 1998 until 31 May 2011.
Mahla Pearlman
was Chief Judge of the NSW Land and Environment Court from 1992 to 2003, and she was the first woman chief judge in any (State) jurisdiction in Australia.
Jews are especially prominent in the legal profession
; for example, in Melbourne alone,
the Hon. Michael Rozenes
sits as Chief Judge of the County Court of Victoria,
Justice Redlich
sits on the Court of Appeal, while
Justices Raymond Finkelstein, Alan Goldberg, Mark Weinberg and Ron Merkel
have all sat in recent years on the Federal Court of Australia.

In 1931,
Sir Isaac Isaacs
was appointed the first Australian born Governor-General, and was the first Jewish vice-regal representative in the British Empire.
Sir Zelman Cowen
also served as Governor-General, between 1977 and 1982.
Sir John Monash
, a distinguished Australian Lieutenant-General during World War I, leading Australian troops both in Gallipoli and on the Western Front. The agent-generalship of New South Wales has been administered by two Jews: Sir Saul Samuel, one of the most prominent and successful Jews in Australian politics, and
Sir Julian Salomons
.

David Bennett
is a Sydney barrister. He was president of the Australian Bar Association from 1995 to 1996 and of the NSW Bar Association from 1995 to 1997. Bennett was president of the Association of Lawyer Arbitrators and Mediates in 1998 and President of the Australian Academy of Forensic Sciences from 1999 to 2001. He was Solicitor-General of Australia from 1998 to 2008. Bennett was awarded the Centenary Medal in 2003. His wife,
Annabelle Bennett
is a Judge of the Federal Supreme Court.

Leo Port
(1922–1978) was an electrical and mechanical engineer. He was elected to the Sydney City Council in 1969 representing the Civic Reform group. He served as Lord Mayor between 1975 and 1978. Port was an advocate of civic design, and was partly responsible for the pedestrianisation of Martin Place and Sydney Square. He revolutionized the system of public works and their contracts in Sydney. He was appointed a Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE) in the New Year's Honours of 1974.

Commerce

Jews in Australia have been successful in business disproportionately to their percentage of the Australian population
. Notable for their success in business are
Sidney Myer, John Gandel, Richard Pratt, Peter Abeles, the Smorgon family, Marcus Besen, Eddie Kornhauser, Frank Lowy and Joseph Gutnick
. The latter, along with
Sydney gangster Abe Saffron
and
Rene Rivkin
occasionally through less scrupulous means.

The foremost among the Jews who have figured as business pioneers in Australia was
Jacob Montefiore
, a cousin of Sir Moses Montefiore. South Australian history records him as one of the founders of the colony; and he was selected by the British government to act on the first board of commissioners, appointed in 1835 to conduct its affairs. His portrait hangs in its National Gallery, and his memory is perpetuated by Montefiore Hill. J. B. Montefiore's activity was not confined to South Australia. With his brother
Joseph Montefiore
he gave an impetus to the progress of New South Wales. Jacob owned one of the largest sheep-runs in the colony, and founded and for many years acted as director of the Bank of Australasia. The close connection of these brothers with the colony is further evidenced by the township of Montefiore, which stands at the junction of the Bell and Macquarie Rivers in the Wellington valley. Joseph Montefiore was the first president of the first Jewish congregation formed in Sydney in 1832.

V. L. Solomon
of Adelaide is remembered for the useful work he achieved in exploring the vast northern territory of his colony, the interests of which he represented in Parliament.
M. V. Lazarus
of Bendigo, known as Bendigo Lazarus, also did much to open up new parts in the back country of Victoria.
Nathaniel Levi
, for many years urged the cultivation of beetroot for the production of sugar and spirits owed its brief existence as an industry to Levi's own interest in raw material for his distilling company. In his labours on behalf of this industry he published in 1870 a work of 250 pages on the value and adaptability of the sugar-beet. In Western Australia, the townships of Karridale and Boyanup owe their existence to the enterprise of
M. C. Davies
, a large lumber merchant.

Arts and culture
Barnett Levy
founded an early theatre in Australia. Having been refused a license by then governor Darling in 1828, though in the following year he was permitted to hold approved performances in his Sydney Hotel. A record of that fact is found in the following entry in "Sydney in 1848," a work published in that year: "In the late twenties His Excellency Sir R. Bourke granted Barnett Levy a license for dramatic performances, with a restriction that he should confine himself to the representation of such pieces only as had been licensed in England by the Lord Chamberlain." Levy was at that time the owner of the original Royal Hotel in George Street; and he fitted up the saloon of that establishment as a theatre, where the first representations of the legitimate drama in the colony were given. The encouragement that this undertaking received induced the enterprising proprietor to enlarge his sphere of action. He built a theatre called the Theatre Royal, which was opened in 1833, at a cost which almost bankrupted him.

Isaac Nathan
, who emigrated to Australia in 1841, wrote the first Australian opera, Don John of Austria to a libretto by Jacob Levi Montefiore. It premiered on 3 May 1847 at the Royal Victoria Theatre in Sydney.

There have been Jewish contributions to Australian visual arts.
[color=#ff0000]Georges Mora
[/color], born Gunter Morawski in 1913 in Leipzig, Germany of Jewish/Polish heritage, fled Germany to Paris in 1930, then to Melbourne in 1949. He established the Tolarno Gallery in Melbourne's bohemian St Kilda. This became a venue for exhibitions of Australian Modernist avant garde art. Printmaker and projection artist
Ludwig Hirschfeld Mack
graduate and professor of the Bauhaus was deported to Australia as an "enemy alien" on the ship HMT Dunera, spending time in internment camps in Hay, Orange and Tatura, before being sponsored for Australian citizenship by (Sir) James Darling, headmaster of Geelong Church of England Grammar School. He was influential in the introduction of Bauhaus principles into visual art and design curricula in Australia. E. P. Fox and Abbey Alston have achieved distinction. Paintings by both these artists have been hung in the Melbourne National Gallery. In the Adelaide Gallery hangs a tribute to the memory of
H. Abrahams
for the services he rendered to the progress of art in Australia. Two Jews of Australian birth have attained to some distinction as writers, S. Alexander and Joseph Jacobs.

In May 2004, art collector/dealer, Joseph Brown
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Reply #73 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:08pm
 
Jan,

In Soren's little delusional fantasy world, Jews infiltrating Australia are actually an example of how great they are. It's only Muslims who should remain outside. His beliefs are based on supremacy of certain races and cultures, hence the reason he has no problem with Jews "taking over from within". But if a Muslim were to do the same, it would be labelled "Stealth Jihad".
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Reply #74 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
If you look at the map, there is only one Jewish country. Israel.
But there are dozens of Muslim countries, even though Muslim Arabs are indigenous to Araby only. All the other Muslim countries around the mediterraenean have been conquered and taken over by Muslims.


Everywhere else where there are Muslims, there is bloodshed - Africa, India, Indonesia, Philipines, Thailand.
In western democracies, they are blowing up skyskrapers, underground and above ground trains, plot and exceute bloody mayhem - all in the name of Allah, all for the furtherance of Islam - ie jihad. When they are not actually killing and destroying, they are poncing about, issuing fatwahs against anything and everything they don't like.

On the positive side  - well, nothing good has come out of Islam for 800 years. So what's to like about it? Small wonder the whole world is sick of them and eyes them with deep suspicion. ANd to avert the well-founded suspicion from themselves, they are carrying on and on and on about one tiny Jewish country.

You can make an almost endless list of Jewish contribution. Not so about Islam, even though Muslims outnumber Jews 7-8 HUNDRED times over.


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