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Reply #30 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:31pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
Where in the Middle East is slavery legal?



The Taliban were the only ones doing sharia properly so lets see...ahh yes.

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Bacha Bazi  or bacha bereesh (beardless boy) is sexual slavery and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Islamic chatroom confirming this is true and far more widespread than reported-
http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=7935
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Reply #31 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 8:06pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:31pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:19pm:
Where in the Middle East is slavery legal?



The Taliban were the only ones doing sharia properly so lets see...ahh yes.

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Bacha Bazi  or bacha bereesh (beardless boy) is sexual slavery and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Islamic chatroom confirming this is true and far more widespread than reported-
http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=7935


The Taliban did not permit this. It is the US-allied warlords who do it.

Afghan boy dancers sexually abused by former warlords


...the practice which has angered Islamic clerics who say those involved should be stoned for sodomy, forbidden under Islamic law...

...in northern Afghanistan, former warlords and mujahideen commanders have taken that a step further with competitions for their dancing boys...

..."Every boy tries to be the first. They are dressed in women's clothes, have bells on their feet and have artificial breasts," said Mohammad Yawar, a former mujahideen fighter against the Taliban and resident of the northern town of Pul-e Khumri...

..."I very much enjoy hugging a boy. His smell and fragrance kills me," said Yawar...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/11/19/us-afghan-dancingboys-idUSISL1848920071119


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..in northern Afghanistan, former warlords and mujahideen commanders have taken that a step further with competitions for their dancing boys...


The Taliban are from the South. It is the northern warlords (who are allied with the US and Australian governments) that are the child abusers.
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Reply #32 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 8:14pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:31pm:
The Taliban were the only ones doing sharia properly so lets see...ahh yes.

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Bacha Bazi  or bacha bereesh (beardless boy) is sexual slavery and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Islamic chatroom confirming this is true and far more widespread than reported-
http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=7935



Falah
go into the Islamic chatroom  have linked and read how they confirm this is true and far more widespread than reported.

everyone else is probably going to read it ,its a muslim chatroom you should read it too.

Your link is defective

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Reply #33 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:34am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
I think pressure from Great Britain was largely responsible for finally outlawing slavery in the middle east, around the time of the final collapse of the empire. Obviously it took a lot longer than that to actually get rid of it and it is still common in many areas.


The Ottoman Caliphate abolished slavery in the 19th. century.

In contrast, the last British "realm" to abolish slavery was northern Nigeria, in 1936.


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Reply #34 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:36am
 
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You've been educated before that the Taliban wiped this filth out, and almost eradicated these beasts ccompletely. The U.S and her allies are the ones who brought them back to power. Western bases (Canadian) have been reportedly used to commit these acts as well.
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Reply #35 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:43am
 
falah wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 8:06pm:
The Taliban are from the South. It is the northern warlords (who are allied with the US and Australian governments) that are the child abusers.


And what religion do the northern warlords follow?
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Reply #36 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 7:28am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:34am:
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
I think pressure from Great Britain was largely responsible for finally outlawing slavery in the middle east, around the time of the final collapse of the empire. Obviously it took a lot longer than that to actually get rid of it and it is still common in many areas.


The Ottoman Caliphate abolished slavery in the 19th. century.

In contrast, the last British "realm" to abolish slavery was northern Nigeria, in 1936.



Of course, no Islamic religious texts were amended to include the language of abolitionism nor redact the language of its actual or tacit condoning.

Mauritania, (with nearly a 100% Muslim population), practises slavery today.
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Reply #37 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 8:26am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:34am:
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
I think pressure from Great Britain was largely responsible for finally outlawing slavery in the middle east, around the time of the final collapse of the empire. Obviously it took a lot longer than that to actually get rid of it and it is still common in many areas.


The Ottoman Caliphate abolished slavery in the 19th. century.

In contrast, the last British "realm" to abolish slavery was northern Nigeria, in 1936.


Are you trying to contradict me Abu, or is that what passes for positive spin when it comes to Islam?
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Reply #38 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:43pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 8:14pm:
Your link is defective



The link is not defective. The link you provided is to a group of grave-worshippers.

The main poster in the thread is a deviant Naqshabandi. The Naqshabandis believe in things which contradict Islam. If they will lie about Islam, then why would I believe them on anything else?

for example,

THE ISLAMIC BELIEF: God is the Only Truth

THE NAQSHBANDI BELIEF: Aba Yazid al-Bistami is the Truth




THE ISLAMIC BELIEF: None shares with the command of God

God says in the Quran:

"Verily, His (God's) command, when He intends a thing, is only that he says to it, "Be! And it is!" - (Chapter 36, Verse 82); and in another place in the Quran, God says:

"They have no protector other than Him (God); nor does He share His command with any person whatsoever." - (18:26)

THE NAQSHBANDI BELIEF: Their sheikh shares with the command of God

On page 33 of their deviant book "Mercy Oceans - Part 1", it reads "The Power of the wali is such that he only needs to say Kun (be) and that will be."



THE ISLAMIC BELIEF: God is above the heavens

God says in the Quran:

"Do you feel secure, that He (God), who is above the heavens, will not cause the earth to sink with you." (Quran, Chapter 67, Verse 16).

And in a long Hadith found in Saheeh Muslim, it is narrated that the companion Mu'awiyah ibn al-Hakam, slapped his servant girl who used to tend his sheep, and as a result when to the Prophet (peace & blessing of God upon him) and asked what should be done as an atonement for having slapped her. The Prophet replied, "Bring her to me" so Mu'awiyah brought her to the Prophet . The Prophet  then asked her, "Where is God?" and she replied "Above the Sky" then the Prophet asked her, "Who am I?" and she replied, "You are God's Messenger", so the Prophet  said, "Free her, for verily she is a true believer."
(Saheeh Muslim, Vol 1, Hadith #1094, English Translation)

THE NAQSHBANDI BELIEF: God is Everywhere

On page 13 of the book Haqiqat ul Haqqani it reads,

"God Almighty is everywhere but specially in the Baitullaah as He has Himself called it the house of God. For it to be called the house of the Lord, the Lord of the house must be in it."

The concept of God being everywhere is not Islamic as the above Quranic verse and the authentic hadith confirm.

5. THE ISLAMIC BELIEF: None has the knowledge of the Last Day except God

God says in the Quran,

"Verily the knowledge of the Hour is with God (alone)." (31:34)

And according to the well known Hadith, where Angel Gabriel appeared as a man, we quote the part of the Hadith that is relevant to our matter, after asking about Islam, Faith and Percfection of Faith, Angel Gabriel asks Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu `alaihi wa sallam) "then tell me about the (last) Hour (meaning Judgement Day)", the Prophet Muhammad replied, "The one questioned about it knows no better than the questioner."

(Saheeh Muslim, vol 1, Hadith #4, English Translation)

THE NAQSHBANDI BELIEF: Their sheikh has the knowledge of the Last Day.

In the beginning of page 19 of the book ‘Mercy Oceans - part one’, it reads -

"These signs have been given us indication that the Last Day is coming is nearly exactly now …we shall witness that great event within two years."

The above book (Mercy Oceans) was published in 1987 and it is almost 25 years since its publication, but the last day is still not witnessed. How could it be when indeed God has clearly stated in the Quran,

"Say None in the heavens and the earth knows the unseen except God." (Quran, Chapter 27, Verse 65)

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Reply #39 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:47pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 7:28am:
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:34am:
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
I think pressure from Great Britain was largely responsible for finally outlawing slavery in the middle east, around the time of the final collapse of the empire. Obviously it took a lot longer than that to actually get rid of it and it is still common in many areas.


The Ottoman Caliphate abolished slavery in the 19th. century.

In contrast, the last British "realm" to abolish slavery was northern Nigeria, in 1936.



Of course, no Islamic religious texts were amended to include the language of abolitionism nor redact the language of its actual or tacit condoning.

Mauritania, (with nearly a 100% Muslim population), practises slavery today.



Actually, slavery is prohibited in Mauretania.
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Reply #40 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:48pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:34am:
freediver wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
I think pressure from Great Britain was largely responsible for finally outlawing slavery in the middle east, around the time of the final collapse of the empire. Obviously it took a lot longer than that to actually get rid of it and it is still common in many areas.


The Ottoman Caliphate abolished slavery in the 19th. century.

In contrast, the last British "realm" to abolish slavery was northern Nigeria, in 1936.




The Ottoman caliphate was abolished around 1920?.

530 BC - Cyrus the Great abolishes slavery

1948- United Nations - UN Declaration of human rights bans global slavery in article 4.

1952 - Qatar abolishes slavery

1962 - Yemen abolishes slavery

1962- Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery

1963 - UAE abolishes slavery

1970 - Oman abolishes slavery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline

The Ottoman empire expired long before the Middle East started doing something about slavery.

Did the Saudis take back Arabia from the Ottoman empire before that empire bit the dust?




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Reply #41 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:50pm
 
Frances wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:43am:
falah wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 8:06pm:
The Taliban are from the South. It is the northern warlords (who are allied with the US and Australian governments) that are the child abusers.


And what religion do the northern warlords follow?


They follow their own whims and desires. Not one of these warlords established Islamic law in any place when they had the chance. They follow the dollar, and they are being bought off by the US.

The Taliban are the only faction in Afghanistan proven to be interested in implementing Islam.
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Reply #42 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:54pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:36am:
Baronvonrort,

You've been educated before that the Taliban wiped this filth out, and almost eradicated these beasts ccompletely. The U.S and her allies are the ones who brought them back to power. Western bases (Canadian) have been reportedly used to commit these acts as well.


Then why does the Sunni forum i linked have muslims saying this problem is not limited to Afghanistan and in fact happens elsewhere in the Islamic world?

How are you going to spin that one Abu- lets see some mental gymnastics.

Yes blame the west for all the problems in the Islamic world do you think non muslims will believe that or will they see through the ingrained victim mentality in Islam?

The Mujahideen have these boys as sex slaves,what religion are the Mujahideen?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen
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Reply #43 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:59pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
530 BC - Cyrus the Great abolishes slavery


Would you have us believe that nobody practiced slavery except Muslims between 530 BC and today?

The Ancient Greeks practiced  slavery, the Romans practiced slavery, the Chinese practiced slavery, the Israelites practiced slavery, the British practiced slavery, the US practiced slavery.

Islam prohibited kidnapping slaves and selling them 1400 years ago. Yet kidnapped slaves were still sold in the US 150 years ago

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
1948- United Nations - UN Declaration of human rights bans global slavery in article 4.

1952 - Qatar abolishes slavery

1962 - Yemen abolishes slavery

1962- Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery

1963 - UAE abolishes slavery

1970 - Oman abolishes slavery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline

The Ottoman empire expired long before the Middle East started doing something about slavery.

Did the Saudis take back Arabia from the Ottoman empire before that empire bit the dust?



What you are talking about is merely passing a law. Slavery in the Arabian Gulf was virtually non-existent when the laws were passed because the states were newly established, and had never fought in wars in which slaves could be captured.
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Reply #44 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 1:04pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:50pm:
Frances wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:43am:
falah wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 8:06pm:
The Taliban are from the South. It is the northern warlords (who are allied with the US and Australian governments) that are the child abusers.


And what religion do the northern warlords follow?


They follow their own whims and desires. Not one of these warlords established Islamic law in any place when they had the chance. They follow the dollar, and they are being bought off by the US.

The Taliban are the only faction in Afghanistan proven to be interested in implementing Islam.


But are they Muslims?
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