Soren wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 9:33pm:


When I start supporting the eradication of Aboriginals, and the removal of them from their lands and putting them in refugee camps and start arguing this land belongs to the British, perhaps that might be a valid question.

Until then, you know it's just a pathetic attempt to divert from that which you obviously support.

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:


Right, and do you see me kicking them out of their homes and making them refugees? Do you see me dotting their land with checkpoints, making their lives a living hell?? When you see this kind of stuff, let me know, and we'll continue your ridiculous line of reasoning.

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:


No they do not. My lineage has been in Australia since at least the 1820's, almost 200 years. They have been in Palestine no more than about 60 years in most cases.

You seem to be under some delusion that belonging to a land is about ancient stories, instead of about the here and now. Land ownership is established by recent presence, not ancient presence. The Palestinians have the most recent presence, unbroken for 1000's of years. The Jews have nothing but Biblical tales.

Soren wrote on Apr 7^th, 2012 at 9:24am:


If they can hold it, eventually, yes. For now, no. They are just illegal squatters who are making an entire nation of people's lives a living hell.

I very much doubt they'll last as long as the crusader incursion did, and I predict they'll be gone within about 10-15 years, perhaps even sooner due to the speedier than expected revival of the Muslim lands.

Once the West's economic might wanes so badly they can no longer maintain their own level of luxury, they'll soon tire of wasting their wealth, time and security on the Zionist entity.

Most of the Jews will flee back to their countries of origin. Those with no dual citizenship will either seek asylum in the West or try to make peace with the Palestinians.

Soren wrote on Apr 7^th, 2012 at 9:34pm:


You are so deluded, these countries are being revived not finishing. They are only just beginning, after being under neo-colonial occupation for so long. But it's ok, keep believing that 

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 8^th, 2012 at 10:21am:



So my parents too is from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
We is Israeli first and always.

No other country origin.

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8^th, 2012 at 10:19am:

Not so true of Pakistan... A nation crippled by its own internal corruption and, it seems, incapable of stabilising itself. Its flawed creation, its inability to establish a constitution early in its life, its repression of minorities (leading to the secession of East Pakistan) made worse by Zia ul-haq's Islamisation program - Never mind its recent history of corruption writ-large - indicates that Pakistan is closer to collapse than revival in the the near future.

As for its Muslim identity... Even Pakistanis cannot define singularly what it means to be Muslim.

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

That's a very naive and unjustifiably optimistic perspective on Pakistan. The country has a long history of socio-political failure and massive corruption almost since its creation.