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Re: Islam- sex slaves are halal for men
Reply #15 - Jan 25th, 2012 at 2:47pm
 
We do not have biblical law, you numpty.  No matter how many of these stupid post you make, there is no equivalent of sharia in the west - we do not have OT OR NT based laws.  Got that?

It does not matter what the bible says. Laws in the west are made by parliaments, not religious scholars. That's why you have religious freedom in the way there is NO religious freedom in Muslim countries.

You know this. But you will continue pretending otherwise. What a galah.



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Reply #16 - Jan 26th, 2012 at 10:58am
 
falah wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 11:59am:


Sex Slavery In The Bible









Every verse presented by falah is a misrepresentation.




In that the 'slaves' and 'sex slaves' which falah presents, are BOND-SERVANTS.

A BOND-SERVANT is a person who cells himself into service as a servant.

Why?

Because they or their family, are poor, or because they and their family have fallen upon hard times.

So, they 'cell themselves', as servants, to wealthy neighbours - for a period of years.



e.g. #1,
falah presents.....
The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery.  How can anyone think it is moral to cell your own daughter as a sex slave?


When a man cells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to cell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.  (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



Yadda presents the same verse.....

Exodus 21:7
And if a man cell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
8  If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to cell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.


Dictionary;
maidservant = = a female domestic servant.

Dictionary;
betroth = = formally engaged to be married.ie.g. #2,
falah presents.....
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

n.b.
".....You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."
Leviticus 25:46




Yadda presents.....

But then, what does the VERY NEXT VERSE, which was omitted by falah present ????

Leviticus 25:47
And if a sojourner or stranger wax rich by thee, and thy brother that dwelleth by him wax poor, and cell himself unto the stranger or sojourner by thee, or to the stock of the stranger's family:
48  After that he is sold he may be redeemed again; one of his brethren may redeem him:


Those verses are talking about bond-servants.

i.e.
People who cell themselves into service, as a servant.

And those verses [Leviticus 25:47-48] reveal that there was no prohibition in a 'stranger' who was living among the Hebrews, making a Hebrew man his 'slave', that is, his bond-servant.





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The reality of the social mores [i.e. the laws] of the Hebrews, is very different to the implication that falah is presenting.

Why so?

That is, why do you think that falah is misrepresenting the social mores [i.e. the laws] of the Hebrews?

Would the fact that the ancient Hebrews were the progenitors of the Jewish people have anything to do with falah's misrepresentation of the mores [i.e. the laws] of the ancient Hebrew people ?






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My advice.....

If you wish to understand what the OT Bible truly presents, then you should read and try to study the OT Bible for yourself.

As a person living in the 21 century, it is likely that you may not understand the dynamics of social circumstances that are described in the OT Bible, or if you do understand the social circumstances that are described, you may object strongly with the circumstances that are described.

The mores and customs and the violence which the OT Bible revealed and which are spoken of [in the books of Moses] will seem 'foreign' to a person living in the 21 century,
.......precisely because the OT Bible was written for the circumstances of people who were alive 3,400 years ago.

That was a time when [very large] societies of men, living together were something of a new 'convention', and it was a time when brigands [large predatory bands of armed robbers] were still very common.

It was a time when predation by one group of [stronger] people, upon another group of [weaker] people was common.

Dictionary;
predation, predator = =
1 an animal that preys on others.
2 a person who exploits others. a company that tries to take over another.





It is a type of predation that is presented in this Koran as 'lawful', for example;

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Koran 9.29






Regards examples of the 'lawful' predation today, by one group of people, upon another group of people;


See.....

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-leg...


And;

"Egyptian imam: "When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her" "

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/egyptian-imam-when-i-want-a-sex-slave-i-just-g...


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Re: Islam- sex slaves are halal for men
Reply #17 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am
 
This guy is a revert to Islam just like Abu and Falah

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Muslim preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon charged with hoax mardi gras threat and possessing child abuse material

He has been charged with using a carriage service to make a hoax threat,possessing child abuse material and using a carriage service to access child pornography.

source-http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/muslim-preacher-ibrahim-muhamma...



Mohammad married a 6yo girl called Aisha so child sex is acceptable in Islam.
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Reply #18 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 11:37am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
This guy is a revert to Islam just like Abu and Falah

Quote:
Muslim preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon charged with hoax mardi gras threat and possessing child abuse material

He has been charged with using a carriage service to make a hoax threat,possessing child abuse material and using a carriage service to access child pornography.

source-http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/muslim-preacher-ibrahim-muhamma...



There are thousands of reverts to Islam in Australia. Probably you think that we were all in Guantanamo Bay too because John Howard put David Hicks there.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Mohammad married a 6yo girl


This was a betrothal, not a marriage in the modern, Western sense of the word. They didn't live together as man and wife until years later when she had reached puberty - the recognised indicator of adulthood throughout most of human history.
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Reply #19 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
This guy is a revert to Islam just like Abu and Falah

Quote:
Muslim preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon charged with hoax mardi gras threat and possessing child abuse material

He has been charged with using a carriage service to make a hoax threat,possessing child abuse material and using a carriage service to access child pornography.

source-http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/muslim-preacher-ibrahim-muhamma...



There are thousands of reverts to Islam in Australia. Probably you think that we were all in Guantanamo Bay too because John Howard put David Hicks there.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Mohammad married a 6yo girl


This was a betrothal, not a marriage in the modern, Western sense of the word. They didn't live together as man and wife until years later when she had reached puberty - the recognised indicator of adulthood throughout most of human history.


Siddiq Conlon was the leader of Sharia4Australia calling for unconstitutional sharia law.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ShariahforAustralia
He likes his child porn.

There are many Sahih hadeeth by Bukhari that say Aisha was 9 when the marriage was consummated.
There are hadith that say she was playing with dolls which shows she was prepubescent.

Do you think 9 year old girls have reached puberty falah?

Do you think men should be allowed to marry prepubescent girls falah?

I have asked you for your opinion on the statutory rape laws in the west,do you think statutory rape laws are a good thing falah?
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Reply #20 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 7:24pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
This guy is a revert to Islam just like Abu and Falah

Quote:
Muslim preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon charged with hoax mardi gras threat and possessing child abuse material

He has been charged with using a carriage service to make a hoax threat,possessing child abuse material and using a carriage service to access child pornography.

source-http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/muslim-preacher-ibrahim-muhamma...



There are thousands of reverts to Islam in Australia. Probably you think that we were all in Guantanamo Bay too because John Howard put David Hicks there.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Mohammad married a 6yo girl


This was a betrothal, not a marriage in the modern, Western sense of the word. They didn't live together as man and wife until years later when she had reached puberty - the recognised indicator of adulthood throughout most of human history.


Siddiq Conlon was the leader of Sharia4Australia calling for unconstitutional sharia law.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ShariahforAustralia

An organisation which pretty much consists of himself. He has been thrown out of other organisations, so started a groupf which he is probably the sole member.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
He likes his child porn.


How do you know this?

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
There are many Sahih hadeeth by Bukhari that say Aisha was 9 when the marriage was consummated.
There are hadith that say she was playing with dolls which shows she was prepubescent.


Hate to be the one to break it to you, but having a doll is not a sign of not reaching puberty.

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Aishah, herself said that she had already had her menses before she lived with the prophet, God's peace & blessings upon him.

Some people grow up quicker than others.

In the past, chronological age was not  seen as important as it is today, and people looked at biological factors to determine adulthood. Someone who reached puberty was generally thought of as old enough to marry.



Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
Do you think 9 year old girls have reached puberty falah?


Some have. larger girls are more likely to reach puberty at an earlier age. Some girls don't reach puberty until 14.

Study finds girls reaching puberty at age nine

http://www.news.com.au/world/study-finds-girls-reaching-puberty-at-age-nine/stor...

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
Do you think men should be allowed to marry prepubescent girls falah?


Living together, no. Not before puberty. I believe that it is potentially harmful for girls to live with a man before as a wife before she reaches puberty.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
I have asked you for your opinion on the statutory rape laws in the west,do you think statutory rape laws are a good thing falah?


I think that the law should be amended. If a person has reached puberty, and wants to marry then why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is a breach of their human rights to deny them the right to marry when they have the biological need to do so.

If there is some form of protection for people who have not reached puberty, then this may be a good thing.

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Reply #21 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 10:17pm
 
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Why would you raise this issue when, due to Islam's discouragement of slavery, slavery does not exist today in the Islamic world?


Interesting that you make this claim here, yet did not attempt ot make it in the other thread where I pointed out that slavery is only banned in the middle east because of foreign interference. In fact you even provided evidence that slavery does still exist in the middle east. Here is an example from you today pointing out the difference between banning and abolishing:

falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:30am:
Emma wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 10:50pm:
'The slave who becomes a concubine is considered like a wife, and the word for concubine in Arabic actually comes from the word for marriage'.


oh well ...that's OK then. Huh

Ummm - like it or not Falah....you and your kind live in the past.!

I can't bring to mind ANYTHING to do with slavery in my culture.... except  IT IS BANNED.

I know the loathsome practice continues in this best of all worlds,  Angry Angry Shocked but for you to respond to FD's q's in such a way is a wake-up.  I actually believe there are people of faith who see more clearly, the teachings of their creed. You are not one of them...  Tongue


Banned but not abolished. There are twice as many slaves in the West today as there in the Midle East.

The BBC tells us that there are 660,000 slaves in the West, only 360,000 in Middleast and north Africa.



freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
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Banned but not abolished. There are twice as many slaves in the West today as there in the Midle East.


The west is a big place Falah. This means slavery is less common in the west. Also, you seem to forget that the only reason slavery is illegal in the middle east is because of foreign interference.

It is kind of hypocritical to claim some kind of moral high ground for Islam because there are fewer slaves in the middle east, when this happened despite Islam and against Islam, not because of it. Meanwhile, if anyone criticises anything else about the middle east that is actually a result of Islam, you and Abu try to pretend that it is because of foreign interference instead.


Do you ever feel silly posting these things Falah?

Quote:
Hypothetically, Islam allows a man to have relationship with his female slaves similar to that a wife - a concubine.


Why is it only hypothetical? Because foreign interference has put an end to it?
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Reply #22 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 9:40am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 10:17pm:
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Why would you raise this issue when, due to Islam's discouragement of slavery, slavery does not exist today in the Islamic world?


Interesting that you make this claim here, yet did not attempt ot make it in the other thread where I pointed out that slavery is only banned in the middle east because of foreign interference. In fact you even provided evidence that slavery does still exist in the middle east. Here is an example from you today pointing out the difference between banning and abolishing:

falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:30am:
Emma wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 10:50pm:
'The slave who becomes a concubine is considered like a wife, and the word for concubine in Arabic actually comes from the word for marriage'.


oh well ...that's OK then. Huh

Ummm - like it or not Falah....you and your kind live in the past.!

I can't bring to mind ANYTHING to do with slavery in my culture.... except  IT IS BANNED.

I know the loathsome practice continues in this best of all worlds,  Angry Angry Shocked but for you to respond to FD's q's in such a way is a wake-up.  I actually believe there are people of faith who see more clearly, the teachings of their creed. You are not one of them...  Tongue


Banned but not abolished. There are twice as many slaves in the West today as there in the Midle East.

The BBC tells us that there are 660,000 slaves in the West, only 360,000 in Middleast and north Africa.



freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Quote:
Banned but not abolished. There are twice as many slaves in the West today as there in the Midle East.


The west is a big place Falah. This means slavery is less common in the west. Also, you seem to forget that the only reason slavery is illegal in the middle east is because of foreign interference.

It is kind of hypocritical to claim some kind of moral high ground for Islam because there are fewer slaves in the middle east, when this happened despite Islam and against Islam, not because of it. Meanwhile, if anyone criticises anything else about the middle east that is actually a result of Islam, you and Abu try to pretend that it is because of foreign interference instead.


Do you ever feel silly posting these things Falah?

Quote:
Hypothetically, Islam allows a man to have relationship with his female slaves similar to that a wife - a concubine.


Why is it only hypothetical? Because foreign interference has put an end to it?


Slavery was already virtually non-existent in most countries in the Middle East prior to the US civil war.

It had little to do with Western involvement. Countires like Saudi and Iran have never been invaded by Western colonialists, yet had long given up slavery.

Why? Because Muslims are not allowed to make slaves from their fellow Muslims. Unlike slavery practiced in Europe, where millions of Christians had been enslaved by their fellow Christians, Muslims have never been allowed to enslave their fellow Muslims.

Compare this to Christian Europe where 10% of the Christian population of England was enslaved by their felllow Christians in 1081. Approximately 10–20% of the rural population of Carolingian Europe consisted of Christians enslaved by their fellow Christians.

In Russia, 23 million Christians were enslaved by their fellow Christians until government edict in 1861 (government slaves were not freed until 1866).

The fact is that islam discourages slavery, but allows it in some cases with dealing with a histile enemy.

As Islam spread across the known world, slavery became redundant in the central areas of Islamic world, and remained only on the fringes of the Islamic world.


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In most of the last 500 years, slavery had largely been confined in the Islamic world to a small part of  Turkey, and the East and West coast of Africa, and in the farest parts of Indonesian archipelago, due to wars in those areas.

There had been little slavery ion the rest of the Islamic world for centuries.

1400 years ago there had been many slaves in places like Saudi Arabia, what had happened to them? They had been freed over time, as Islam encourages (and even in some cases orders) Muslims to free slaves.



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Reply #23 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 12:56pm
 
So why did you lie about whether slavery exists in the Islamic world today, when earlier on the very same day you had posted the stats about the existence of it?

Also, you do not appear to be contradicting my claim that slavery was only banned in the middle east because of foreign interference. Is that correct? Have you lost the ability to make the same distinction that you made earlier?
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Reply #24 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 8:47pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 9:40am:
freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 10:17pm:
Quote:
Why would you raise this issue when, due to Islam's discouragement of slavery, slavery does not exist today in the Islamic world?


Interesting that you make this claim here, yet did not attempt ot make it in the other thread where I pointed out that slavery is only banned in the middle east because of foreign interference. In fact you even provided evidence that slavery does still exist in the middle east. Here is an example from you today pointing out the difference between banning and abolishing:

falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:30am:
Emma wrote on Mar 18th, 2012 at 10:50pm:
'The slave who becomes a concubine is considered like a wife, and the word for concubine in Arabic actually comes from the word for marriage'.


oh well ...that's OK then. Huh

Ummm - like it or not Falah....you and your kind live in the past.!

I can't bring to mind ANYTHING to do with slavery in my culture.... except  IT IS BANNED.

I know the loathsome practice continues in this best of all worlds,  Angry Angry Shocked but for you to respond to FD's q's in such a way is a wake-up.  I actually believe there are people of faith who see more clearly, the teachings of their creed. You are not one of them...  Tongue


Banned but not abolished. There are twice as many slaves in the West today as there in the Midle East.

The BBC tells us that there are 660,000 slaves in the West, only 360,000 in Middleast and north Africa.



freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Quote:
Banned but not abolished. There are twice as many slaves in the West today as there in the Midle East.


The west is a big place Falah. This means slavery is less common in the west. Also, you seem to forget that the only reason slavery is illegal in the middle east is because of foreign interference.

It is kind of hypocritical to claim some kind of moral high ground for Islam because there are fewer slaves in the middle east, when this happened despite Islam and against Islam, not because of it. Meanwhile, if anyone criticises anything else about the middle east that is actually a result of Islam, you and Abu try to pretend that it is because of foreign interference instead.


Do you ever feel silly posting these things Falah?

Quote:
Hypothetically, Islam allows a man to have relationship with his female slaves similar to that a wife - a concubine.


Why is it only hypothetical? Because foreign interference has put an end to it?



It had little to do with Western involvement. Countires like Saudi and Iran have never been invaded by Western colonialists, yet had long given up slavery.
The Saudis still had slavery in 1962 ,The muslims were still doing slavery when the west outlawed it

Why? Because Muslims are not allowed to make slaves from their fellow Muslims. Unlike slavery practiced in Europe, where millions of Christians had been enslaved by their fellow Christians, Muslims have never been allowed to enslave their fellow Muslims.
Islam preaches it is good to free muslim slaves,many hadeeth from Bukhari of muslims wanting to free a slave only to have Mohammad sell them.

The fact is that islam discourages slavery, but allows it in some cases with dealing with a histile enemy.
Can  you cite the verse from the Quran that prohibits muslims from taking non combatants as slaves.

There is no verse in the Quran that prohibits a muslim from taking a non combatant as a slave!




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Reply #25 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 9:01pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 7:24pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
falah wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
This guy is a revert to Islam just like Abu and Falah

Quote:
Muslim preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon charged with hoax mardi gras threat and possessing child abuse material

He has been charged with using a carriage service to make a hoax threat,possessing child abuse material and using a carriage service to access child pornography.

source-http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/muslim-preacher-ibrahim-muhamma...



There are thousands of reverts to Islam in Australia. Probably you think that we were all in Guantanamo Bay too because John Howard put David Hicks there.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Mohammad married a 6yo girl


This was a betrothal, not a marriage in the modern, Western sense of the word. They didn't live together as man and wife until years later when she had reached puberty - the recognised indicator of adulthood throughout most of human history.

Aisha said she was 9 when the marriage was consummated  is there a hadith that mentions her first menses?

Siddiq Conlon was the leader of Sharia4Australia calling for unconstitutional sharia law.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ShariahforAustralia

An organisation which pretty much consists of himself. He has been thrown out of other organisations, so started a groupf which he is probably the sole member.
He has over 150 friends on his youtube account and is associated with all the other groups wanting sharia law in the west

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
He likes his child porn.


How do you know this?
He was charged with downloading child porn,

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
There are many Sahih hadeeth by Bukhari that say Aisha was 9 when the marriage was consummated.
There are hadith that say she was playing with dolls which shows she was prepubescent.


Hate to be the one to break it to you, but having a doll is not a sign of not reaching puberty.
Those photos were of non muslim women, are muslm wome who have reached puberty allowed to play with dolls?

Aishah, herself said that she had already had her menses before she lived with the prophet, God's peace & blessings upon him.
Can you cite this verse?
She had her first menses long after Mo broke her in


Some people grow up quicker than others.
Pathetic excuse

In the past, chronological age was not  seen as important as it is today, and people looked at biological factors to determine adulthood. Someone who reached puberty was generally thought of as old enough to marry.



Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
Do you think 9 year old girls have reached puberty falah?


Some have. larger girls are more likely to reach puberty at an earlier age. Some girls don't reach puberty until 14.

Study finds girls reaching puberty at age nine

http://www.news.com.au/world/study-finds-girls-reaching-puberty-at-age-nine/stor...

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
Do you think men should be allowed to marry prepubescent girls falah?


Living together, no. Not before puberty. I believe that it is potentially harmful for girls to live with a man before as a wife before she reaches puberty.
So when a 10 year old girl reaches puberty then it is ok for a girl to live with a man as his wife?

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 1:25pm:
I have asked you for your opinion on the statutory rape laws in the west,do you think statutory rape laws are a good thing falah?


I think that the law should be amended. If a person has reached puberty, and wants to marry then why shouldn't they be allowed to? It is a breach of their human rights to deny them the right to marry when they have the biological need to do so.
So you dont see a problem with a 25 year old man marrying a 10 year old girl who has gone through puberty?



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Re: Islam- sex slaves are halal for men
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So you dont see a problem with a 25 year old man marrying a 10 year old girl who has gone through puberty?


That's a bit old don't you think? Under an Islamic system few 25 year olds would be able to afford it. The whole supply and demand thing gets a bit out of whack with one man and four wives.
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Reply #27 - May 13th, 2012 at 6:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 9:39pm:
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So you dont see a problem with a 25 year old man marrying a 10 year old girl who has gone through puberty?


That's a bit old don't you think? Under an Islamic system few 25 year olds would be able to afford it. The whole supply and demand thing gets a bit out of whack with one man and four wives.


I used an example of under 25 so it would not sound so bad.

Here is a 80 year old Saudi marrying a 12 year old child-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8493402.stm

Nujood Ali became well known for getting divorced at age 10 and now she speaks out against child marriages, i guess she did not enjoy her first marriage.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/nujood-ali-12-year-old-di_n_485952.html

Falah should point out sex slaves are halal for men along with child brides when doing his dawaganda.

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