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Re: Get it right
Reply #75 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:42pm

bomen_guy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:08pm:

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LOL indeed.....what do you think your link has proven Roll Eyes

You wrong.

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You stupid!!!

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Phil honky is not the only stupid one look at shyte for brains signature

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i didn't know that the internet was going when Abraham Lincoln was alive

gee you're sharp. That pretend quote didn't seem ironic at all.... Roll Eyes

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Re: Get it right
Reply #76 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:44pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:05pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:59pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

Give us a link where it says that 85% are still on centrelink benefit five years after they arrived here.

I don't want anything from ACA, TT or Liberal party web site.

You will get what I bloody give you.

Do not bother mate....You are a proven liar anyway....If you cannot support your crap just say so???

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Everybody remain calm! It's only 83.5%. Grin

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

Thanks Honky Tonk saves me looking for it. You were saying. Bomen?????

You must feel like shyte bomen being belted around the head so often.

LOL. I've posted it here a few times before. Never fails to render lefties silent...for a while. Bookmark that link - it is like kryptonite to them.

LOL indeed.....what do you think your link has proven accept you cannot understand the statistics.....Most of the people that took part in the survey where not even boat people and have undertaken part time education which is why they receive centerlink payments.....There are no unemployment figures about boat people in the link you provided.....people are not as stupid as you lot look!!!

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But interpreting the statistics wasn't part of the deal was it? You asked for the link that said 85% of asylum seekers were on centrelik benefits after 5 years, and I, in my graciousness, provided it.

I'd prefer a simple 'thank you' next time.

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Re: Get it right
Reply #77 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:49pm

bomen_guy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:08pm:

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LOL indeed.....what do you think your link has proven Roll Eyes

You wrong.

Grin

You stupid!!!

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Phil honky is not the only stupid one look at shyte for brains signature

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The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it's difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine - Abraham Lincoln

i didn't know that the internet was going when Abraham Lincoln was alive

Abe knew Honky personally judging by this quote....

You may deceive all the people part of the time, and part of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time.
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Re: Get it right
Reply #78 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:54pm

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 7:44pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 3:05pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:59pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

Give us a link where it says that 85% are still on centrelink benefit five years after they arrived here.

I don't want anything from ACA, TT or Liberal party web site.

You will get what I bloody give you.

Do not bother mate....You are a proven liar anyway....If you cannot support your crap just say so???

Roll Eyes

Everybody remain calm! It's only 83.5%. Grin

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

Thanks Honky Tonk saves me looking for it. You were saying. Bomen?????

You must feel like shyte bomen being belted around the head so often.

LOL. I've posted it here a few times before. Never fails to render lefties silent...for a while. Bookmark that link - it is like kryptonite to them.

LOL indeed.....what do you think your link has proven accept you cannot understand the statistics.....Most of the people that took part in the survey where not even boat people and have undertaken part time education which is why they receive centerlink payments.....There are no unemployment figures about boat people in the link you provided.....people are not as stupid as you lot look!!!

Roll Eyes

But interpreting the statistics wasn't part of the deal was it? You asked for the link that said 85% of asylum seekers were on centrelik benefits after 5 years, and I, in my graciousness, provided it.

I'd prefer a simple 'thank you' next time.

But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

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Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
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Re: Get it right
Reply #79 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:34pm

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But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

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Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

What level of self-delusion is this???????

Says nothing of the sort? That's exactly what it says!

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Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

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Reply #80 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:51pm

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

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But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

Wink

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

What level of self-delusion is this???????

Says nothing of the sort? That's exactly what it says!

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

But they are not unemployed and it does not state how many arived on boats.....The assumptions being made are pure deception.....Most Australian's receive Centrelink payments in some form or another so what is your point???

Table # 9 Employment category by migration stream....

Employed full time or part time = 31%

Unemplyed and looking or not looking for work = 11.7%

Others including retired, caring duties, studying full time, volantary work or setting up a business with no income yet = 57.2

These stats are for humanitarian entrants.....Skilled migrants employed full time or part time = 84.4%

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21057 Perth Gender:	Re: Get it right Reply #81 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:53pm It must be understood that Centrelink payments are not only unemployment benefits but also include Youth Allowance, Austudy and child care rebates. Most Australian's recieve Centerlink payments!!!
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Re: Get it right
Reply #83 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 9:23pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

Quote:

But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

Wink

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

What level of self-delusion is this???????

Says nothing of the sort? That's exactly what it says!

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

But they are not unemployed and it does not state how many arived on boats.....The assumptions being made are pure deception.....Most Australian's receive Centrelink payments in some form or another so what is your point???

Table # 9 Employment category by migration stream....

Employed full time or part time = 31%

Unemplyed and looking or not looking for work = 11.7%

Others including retired, caring duties, studying full time, volantary work or setting up a business with no income yet = 57.2

These stats are for humanitarian entrants.....Skilled migrants employed full time or part time = 84.4%

Angry

Enough babbling - just compare the statements for crying out loud!

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But interpreting the statistics wasn't part of the deal was it? You asked for the link that said 85% of asylum seekers were on centrelik benefits after 5 years, and I, in my graciousness, provided it.

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

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Re: Get it right
Reply #84 - Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:34pm

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

Quote:

But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

Wink

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

What level of self-delusion is this???????

Says nothing of the sort? That's exactly what it says!

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

But they are not unemployed and it does not state how many arived on boats.....The assumptions being made are pure deception.....Most Australian's receive Centrelink payments in some form or another so what is your point???

Table # 9 Employment category by migration stream....

Employed full time or part time = 31%

Unemplyed and looking or not looking for work = 11.7%

Others including retired, caring duties, studying full time, volantary work or setting up a business with no income yet = 57.2

These stats are for humanitarian entrants.....Skilled migrants employed full time or part time = 84.4%

Angry

Enough babbling - just compare the statements for crying out loud!

Quote:

But interpreting the statistics wasn't part of the deal was it? You asked for the link that said 85% of asylum seekers were on centrelik benefits after 5 years, and I, in my graciousness, provided it.

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

As I said....what is your point???

Most Australian's receive Centerlink payments!!!

Huh

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Re: Get it right
Reply #85 - Jan 6^th, 2012 at 10:29am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:34pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

Quote:

But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

Wink

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

What level of self-delusion is this???????

Says nothing of the sort? That's exactly what it says!

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

But they are not unemployed and it does not state how many arived on boats.....The assumptions being made are pure deception.....Most Australian's receive Centrelink payments in some form or another so what is your point???

Table # 9 Employment category by migration stream....

Employed full time or part time = 31%

Unemplyed and looking or not looking for work = 11.7%

Others including retired, caring duties, studying full time, volantary work or setting up a business with no income yet = 57.2

These stats are for humanitarian entrants.....Skilled migrants employed full time or part time = 84.4%

Angry

Enough babbling - just compare the statements for crying out loud!

Quote:

But interpreting the statistics wasn't part of the deal was it? You asked for the link that said 85% of asylum seekers were on centrelik benefits after 5 years, and I, in my graciousness, provided it.

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

As I said....what is your point???

Most Australian's receive Centerlink payments!!!

Huh

My point is that you, and bomen asked where it said that 85% of refugees were still on centrelink benefits after 5 years. Why ask if you're just going to cry about it?

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Re: Get it right
Reply #86 - Jan 6^th, 2012 at 1:45pm

... wrote on Jan 6^th, 2012 at 10:29am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 10:34pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

Quote:

But the link says nothing of the sort does it.....and if you want to be such a prat asylum seekers get no benefits at all.....It is refugees who receive centerlink payments....Even then you have not proven anything as the link says nothing of the sort???

Wink

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), radio address, October 26, 1939

What level of self-delusion is this???????

Says nothing of the sort? That's exactly what it says!

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-...

But they are not unemployed and it does not state how many arived on boats.....The assumptions being made are pure deception.....Most Australian's receive Centrelink payments in some form or another so what is your point???

Table # 9 Employment category by migration stream....

Employed full time or part time = 31%

Unemplyed and looking or not looking for work = 11.7%

Others including retired, caring duties, studying full time, volantary work or setting up a business with no income yet = 57.2

These stats are for humanitarian entrants.....Skilled migrants employed full time or part time = 84.4%

Angry

Enough babbling - just compare the statements for crying out loud!

Quote:

But interpreting the statistics wasn't part of the deal was it? You asked for the link that said 85% of asylum seekers were on centrelik benefits after 5 years, and I, in my graciousness, provided it.

Quote:

Around 85%
of Humanitarian
entrants’ households
are in receipt of
Centrelink payments

As I said....what is your point???

Most Australian's receive Centerlink payments!!!

Huh

My point is that you, and bomen asked where it said that 85% of refugees were still on centrelink benefits after 5 years. Why ask if you're just going to cry about it?

I did not ask how many refugees were on centrelink benefits I ask about how many aslyum seekers were on centrelink benefits.

Do you know the difference between refugees and aslyum seekers

Now tell me how many aslyum seekers are on centrelink payments after 5 years

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Re: Get it right
Reply #87 - Jan 6^th, 2012 at 1:50pm

bomen_guy wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

blackadder wrote on Jan 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

A few thousand people seeking refuge is hardly a national crisis

See you are still in denial perth. What are we up to now? Pushing 11,000. Hardly a FEW thousand.

Hardly a National crisis either!!!

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Er yes it is when over 85% of them are still on Centrelink benefits five years after arriving.

Give us a link where it says that 85% are still on centrelink benefit five years after they arrived here.

I don't want anything from ACA, TT or Liberal party web site.

What were we to make of this request?

FFS - all you idiots have is semnatics. I tried to word it in doublespeak, instead of what I'd like to refer to them as, so as to avoid this bullsh.t pedantry.

Now ehers how it is - you thought we were full of sh.t, and you were proven wrong. Be a man and deal with it.

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Reply #88 - Jan 6^th, 2012 at 2:23pm

Food for thought in this article that I was just reading;

http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/politics/global-view-can-help-tackle-asy...

Australia should look at putting resources into refugee trouble spots.

So, in simple terms, the plan was for Australia to make every effort to solve the problems that cause people to flee their homelands in the first place. This kind of thinking - helped, importantly, by the end of the Cold War a few years later - led to initiatives such as the Cambodia peace agreement and the key role Australia played in a United Nations peacekeeping mission.

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Reply #89 - Jan 6^th, 2012 at 2:27pm

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Food for thought in this article that I was just reading;

http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/politics/global-view-can-help-tackle-asy...

Australia should look at putting resources into refugee trouble spots.

So, in simple terms, the plan was for Australia to make every effort to solve the problems that cause people to flee their homelands in the first place. This kind of thinking - helped, importantly, by the end of the Cold War a few years later - led to initiatives such as the Cambodia peace agreement and the key role Australia played in a United Nations peacekeeping mission.

In other words - make all of the worlds probelms, our problems.

No thanks.

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