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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10958 Australia Gender:	Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God Reply #150 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:46pm John_Taverner wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:40pm: I changed the post while you were posting. The "Lord Knows" is a reference to the Two Ronnies clip. cool......
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Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God
Reply #151 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:54pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

Are you having a go at me professor....???

Well I just want to inform you that even though the ancient Greeks and Romans didn't have tooth brushes they did have powders that they cleaned their teeth with after a meal.

http://www.greekmedicine.net/hygiene/Greek_Oral_Hygiene.html

So much for the bad breath....LOL.... Kiss

The Greeks and Romans didn't come into the picture until the Iron Age. The "Cosmology" is earlier than that (Old Testament).

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Reply #152 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:59pm

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:54pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

Are you having a go at me professor....???

Well I just want to inform you that even though the ancient Greeks and Romans didn't have tooth brushes they did have powders that they cleaned their teeth with after a meal.

http://www.greekmedicine.net/hygiene/Greek_Oral_Hygiene.html

So much for the bad breath....LOL.... Kiss

The Greeks and Romans didn't come into the picture until the Iron Age. The "Cosmology" is earlier than that (Old Testament).

You did say bronze age....!!!

Greeks were there.

I should have left out those bloody Romans.

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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2178 Gender:	Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God Reply #153 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:05pm The Greeks were not involved with Christian scripture until the Iron Age. Greeks are all NT in the bible, apart from the Greek translations or Septuagint, which was also translated in the Iron Age. I'm talking about the original source documents, not the translations.
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Reply #154 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:09pm

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

The Greeks were not involved with Christian scripture until the Iron Age. Greeks are all NT in the bible, apart from the Greek translations or Septuagint, which was also translated in the Iron Age. I'm talking about the original source documents, not the translations.

Ok, Ok, don't get your knickers in a knot, I was just having some fun with the bad breath part.

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Reply #156 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:17pm

.. and that was probably the best theory they could come up with considering their limited observational tools.

Nowadays we have a much bigger observational repertoire. Are we absolutely right? Almost definitely not.

The difference is that it can be revised depending on observation. It is not absolute. The current revision is unlikely to be the same in 200 years (if we survive that long)

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10958 Australia Gender:	Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God Reply #157 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:19pm Interesting, how the ancients perceived the then known world. The ancient Greeks always talked about elysium as going to hades, cause Zeus didn't have enough room for everyone on Mount Olympus. Tonight we dine in hades....something to look forward to.
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Reply #158 - Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:27pm

John_Taverner wrote on Feb 6^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

.. and that was probably the best theory they could come up with considering their limited observational tools.

Nowadays we have a much bigger observational repertoire. Are we absolutely right? Almost definitely not.

The difference is that it can be revised depending on observation. It is not absolute. The current revision is unlikely to be the same in 200 years (if we survive that long)

Cheer up dude look at it on the bright side you and I wont be here to worry about such things.

On the serious side, I hope we can turn the corner and make money the servant not the master this should eliminate the need for us to kill each and instead help each other.

Sometimes I wonder on how many Einsteins and Newtons we have already missed out from all around the world.

I think this is the only way we will ever get of this planet.

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Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God
Reply #159 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 8:17am

Ajax wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 4:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:57am:

Would you then care to debate how the following isn't evidence for the Big Bang

Red shift

This doesn't prove the big bang theory, its an observation that galaxies are moving further apart.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:57am:

CMBR

This one is a tall tale, with all the dust and clouds of gases the galaxies themselves and all the other elements in the universe this would be almost impossible to do.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:57am:

Abundance of primordial elements
Stellar evolution

How do these this prove the big bang theory.....???

Our ignorance shows up here.

Why are the galaxies moving apart? What about CMBR makes it a tall tale?

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10958 Australia Gender:	Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God Reply #160 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:45pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 8:17am: Why are the galaxies moving apart? No one really knows....!!! The best fit the human mind can come up with is there must have been an explosion...!!!! Quote: What about CMBR makes it a tall tale?
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Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God
Reply #161 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 11:11pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

Why are the galaxies moving apart?

No one really knows....!!!

The best fit the human mind can come up with is there must have been an explosion...!!!!

Na. Best fit my mind can comprehend is galaxies on an stretching fabric... all moving away from each other, rather than a central explosion point.

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Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God
Reply #162 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 11:25pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 8^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

Why are the galaxies moving apart?

No one really knows....!!!

The best fit the human mind can come up with is there must have been an explosion...!!!!

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What about CMBR makes it a tall tale?

So nothing peer reviewed?

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: You can't use Science to prove or disprove God Reply #164 - Feb 9^th, 2016 at 8:39am Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2016 at 12:13am: 42 But what do you think Yadda.
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