It is possible for me to ban members from individual boards, but it is a complicated process. So please follow this procedure. Temporary bans will not be given, so use all other avenues first.

For all members:

Please follow the instructions of board moderators. If you don't like them, cease to use the board. This is the most powerful mechanism you have to handle poor board management. You may of course complain to the mod publicly or privately, but give it up if it is not achieving anything. If they ask you to stop posting on the board, stop posting on the board. If you refuse to follow their instructions, you will be blocked from the board and also suspended from the whole forum.

For board moderators:

1) Warn the member via PM and then publicly that they are breaking the rules.

2) If they persist in being disruptive, send them a PM notifying them that they are banned from the board. Include a link to this post so that they are aware of the ban and my expectations of them under this procedure. CC a copy of this PM to me. At this stage the member is expected to voluntarily refrain from using the board.

3) If they continue to post, advise them publicly that they are banned, or refer them to their PM from you if you want to be more subtle. This is in case they don't read their PMs.

4) If they continue to post, PM me with a link to their public warning and where they posted afterwards, and quotes. I will put in an appropriate ban at that stage. This could be a ban from the board, from the section or from the entire forum.

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I will not ban people from individual party boards. On the first offence you will be banned from the entire section (currently 6 boards) or from the entire forum.

For member run boards, I have traditionally banned people from individual boards first, then from the entire section. I will continue this for the moment.

If the 'offence' is particularly nasty the member will be banned or suspended from the entire forum.

The point of this process, and the member run boards in general, is to reduce the workload on myself and the other global mods. I expect the board mods to make a reasonable effort to handle and diffuse a problem themselves before asking for a ban. I do not want the board mods to use bans as part of any personal disagreements.

So far I haven't had a problem in Health & Welfare.

I did have to warn one poster, but he 'took it on board' and there was no further trouble.

I try to sort things without bans or suspensions. I look upon them as a last resort only.

But thanks for the tips and advice.

Katut wrote on Jun 1^st, 2014 at 12:11am:


Pardon?

I am sure the G Mods were doing the right thing.

Look back through your posts and I am sure you will be able to work out why you deserved a banning..

Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:


I looked back through his posts and could see nothing that would warrant a ban.

Some people here do get banned for no obvious reason and no explanation depending on the mood of the moderator.

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2014 at 6:49am:


I get that (very) occasionally too, Cods.

Usually, I just need to wait a few moments then re-submit my post.

My bet is that it's an intermittent bug in the forum software which
sometimes picks innocent posts as spam.

Better that, than real spam, I guess...

mantra wrote on Jun 28^th, 2014 at 6:43am:

Sprintcyclist - not so long ago  I was blocked from Feedback for a week or so. This was the first time in 8 years since the inception of this forum any restrictions were made on my posting and it was simply because a few disgruntled members tend to drag my nick into all their grievances.  Perhaps because they want me to bite or perhaps they hold an old grudge that most of the time I'm unaware of.  I make very few posts and although I have my cynical moments have not consciously abused anyone or used bad language. Even if they haven't liked my response  - it's been nowhere near the level of abuse which has been dished out to me.

I don't even bother the mods anymore, but obviously others do.  There are some challenged people here - that is obvious and for some of us it is impossible to understand where they're coming from. Those who cry loudest are heard even if their complaints are only figments of their imagination.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 29^th, 2014 at 9:40am:





some people have the POWER...if a mod happens to not like or agree with you...

who knows..I think one should sit back and say they are doing me a favor.. take a rest a holiday..we are a bit addicted to this thing I am for sure..I am supposed to be making a carrot cake and what am I dont.... whingeing..

oh well.. dont bother trying to find out why sprint.. they dont tell you..if you happen to use a word that someone takes offence to they will report you and BINGO you are gone..I dont think its always the mods fault..some complain they report things and the mods do nothing....yet we have no idea what they do really.. a terse.. detention...does work... I dont use the word... screw. anymore..perc told me off.I still dont know why.

I was canned the same time as SC..we both know why.

It does Matty   

Does this have anything to do with the rules for banning from member run boards?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1172540626

cods wrote on Aug 14^th, 2014 at 8:08am:


I have seen the alcoholic reference used dozens of times by various members and it has always escaped scrutiny. I saw one reference to it yesterday involving another member who used it for the first time and he was banned immediately. He will not return and this is Ozpolitic's loss.

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 10:09am:


Unless you are also a GMod, those like me who moderate the Member run Boards do not have a ban button.  To get someone banned form that Board, we have to go through a three stage advice/request process, and even then nothing may happen.  In effect, it means that an offender gets three strikes before  freediver might act.

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 10:42am:


You're not banned from there now apparently Cods, but for those who are "banned" from one of the member run boards - why would you want to go back anyway? You are banned in spirit only, but if you keep returning in defiance of the moderator's warning - obviously you'll end up being banned from the whole of Ozpolitic.

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 10:09am:


A global moderator would have banned this person. The insult occurred in Politicians Suck - so Cods a precedent has been set. Any member who accuses someone else of imbibing could now be banned.

You wouldn't usually know when someone is banned unless they talk about it somewhere.

Datalife wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 11:03am:


I can understand that. I've found myself about to automatically respond to something in the sub-forum I'm banned from, but pulled back in the nick of time. I got 3 warnings over just one little line I posted which means technically if I get another warning - I could be banned. One warning per post should be adequate enough to deter someone.

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 11:39am:


That would be the easiest solution, but it depends on the personality of the sub-forum moderator. If they dislike you, it doesn't matter how mild your comment might be - they will find a way to get rid of you. That's their prerogative.

Quote:


We all tread on toes at times - intentionally or unintentionally. Just imagine how boring a forum would be if we didn't.

Quote:


Some people find it impossible not to be nasty. It's part of their DNA and if they haven't learnt to tone it down a bit by the time they become mature adults - they never will.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

mantra wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 11:54am:





I guess your right...I find the mods few and far between of late...not complaining as I dont really have that many complaints..

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 8:50am:


what other moderates???...lol.. I have lost the faith..

freediver wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:31am:


That's strange, FD. You ban people simply for posting in "moderator's" boards. Your rules, however, state that they should be based on breaking rules, not merely having the temerity to post there.

You won't reply, of course. You've banned people and deleted their comments for simply exposing this ruse.

Kunning, no?

Setanta wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 2:18am:


They only moderate these boards, Setanta. Why not ban them for breaching actual rules rather than simply posting?

Setanta wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 7:48pm:


Yes, but my question was why not ban people for breaching actual rules rather than being told what to say by a moderator?

Aussie, for example, would start threads with specific instructions on how to post, delete responses, lock threads and ban posters for nothing. He banned so many people so many times, he couldn't keep up with FD's paperwork.

You would have got sick of his endless complaints and petty feuds yourself. Why not just have sub mods follow the same rules as you?

I understand that calling them "member's boards" alleviates some of FD's fear of liability, but why not just ensure sub mods do their job and delete libel, harassment and vilification and ban repeat offenders?

Unless FD wants a certain amount of libel, harassment and vilification but simply wants a legal buffer - then I could understand it.

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 8:55am:


That would be nice, I guess, if you had different sets of moderators.

How many have you got left?

Setanta wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 11:28pm:


Thanks for the offer, Setanta, but how many ridiculous rules could I make up to ban posters for?

The most surreal one I've been banned for is speaking in French. Yes, a moderator called Dilligaf banned me for saying "oui". Apparently he's still moderating Multiculturalism of all places.

Mind you, the latest ban stands out. Herbie banned me for posting anything at all. First, the posts were simply deleted. Strange, I thought, so I posted them again. Then they were deleted, then Herbie decided to inform me that I had no right to post "until further notice".

I haven't received any notice yet. I appear to be back on Herbie's infamous Ignore List.

If I moderated the Greens board, I'd want the freedom to let anybody in, but that mightn't go down too well with you-know-who.

Great Scott, they could be tinted.

There you go, Setanta, no Greens board for moi.

Whoops - I spoke French. Don't ban me from the Feedback board please, Moderator.

aka JaSin (no [reply] this section)

Attn please FD & VIC.

Can I please have Lisa Jones 'banned'!
She's returned and straight away has gone on the attack against me.
Even 'coercively' made false accusations of me just trolling these past number of days since she's been gone (and her fellow PA'ers).
Bobby has still been active here and I have not 'attacked' him off subject.
They have attacked me with nothing but 'personal' attacks since I expressed my anger at them for sneaking over to Aussie/Monks PA Forum to antagonise and stir the 'hornets nest'. Those PA'ers even expressed that they were not welcome there. So no wonder they return to this Forum all riled up!

When Lisa Jone's arrogant 'wit' fails her for the next remark/post - she straight away, as always cries out to you guys to 'Ban' who she sees fit (Mostly Aussie & Co from the other PA).
So she also did with me just recently.
She even banned me from her 'Real Estate' section that she Mods ...upon 'whim'. Not because I posted anything 'wrong' there - in fact I posted there in an effort to get things rolling there as a friendly favour as 'no-one' ever visits there! (I now wonder why? )
She is 'BAN CRAZY' and hence why she bombards you both with constant requests to have other people banned.

So, if she can do it (and get away with it) - then why can't I (give her a taste of her own medicine. She seems to think she has worked in the Medical Industry and knows how to administer medical advice to members to 'take their meds', she does so also against Bojack  )??

I will accept a 'dual ban' if she is banned and I am banned.
She's the kind to drag anyone down with her. Anything to get someone banned.

So, with Lisa can get away with it all the time...

Setanta wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:


Can't help it obviously. I know its a 'distraction'.
But it must be the 'Feral' in me to give it back just as good as I cop it.
But ok Setanta. I'll give the 'hippy' way of restraint, peace and 'ignore' a go.
I'll see how long I last while I'm being insulted, humiliated and falsely accused.
So from this Post onwards - lets see how long I can last for?
Hopefully into the New Year at least.


.JaSin. may need a new avatar for this one. 

Setanta wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh my Hippy FreeLove Brother you art wise.
This Feral thinks of the words to the song

People
People:"

Me:


...that indeed may be the problem.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 28^th, 2017 at 8:48pm:


It's up to you to prove harassment, Herbie. Agreeing with poor Cods is hardly harassment. Discussing worm and flea treatments is hardly baiting. No one would take offence at this.

Except you.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 29^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:


Hurts, does it?

No worries, Herbie, kindly show the nuisance posts that offend you so.

In the meantime, FD, please ban silly old Karnal. Herbie's offended again.

So unfair.

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2017 at 9:22am:


Thank you, Bogarde, and may I say a big "Thank you" for the many fine posts you've submitted over the past year which I've thoroughly enjoyed and also learnt from.