some time ago I was talking to a muslim about ishmael.
he was abrahams son, born to a slave woman.

found this just now :-


"Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.
These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants.
One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.
But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written:
  "Be glad, O barren woman,
     who bears no children;
  break forth and cry aloud,
     you who have no labor pains;
  because more are the children of the desolate woman
     than of her who has a husband."[b]

Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.
At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now.
But what does the Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."[c]
Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman."

Galatians 4: 21-31


[b] Galatians 4:27 Isaiah 54:1
[c] Galatians 4:30 Gen. 21:10



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Also if you (and Paul) had read your Bibles properly, you'd know Hagar was the wife of Abraham (pbuh), the Bible clearly states this.

This is just an extension of the ethno-centric mumbo-jumbo the Jews concocted to try and put themselves at the centre of everything.

In fact the Bible clearly states that Ishmael (pbuh) and Abraham (pbuh) together made the covenant with God.

But the Qur'an confirms that the covenant is with the sincere believers, not with any certain ethnicity, nor with those who do the opposite of Abraham (pbuh) and worship idols/men.

That much of the Bible is corrupted is proven in the Bible itself:

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it (i.e., the bible) into a LIE.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

Paul never even met Jesus Christ in person while the latter was on Earth.

Christians claim that Paul was some kind of prophet -yet he himself was not entirely sure if the Spirit of God was with him:

I think [doesnt know] that I too have the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Version)


Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bible:

2 Samuel 10:18 - David slew 700 and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
1 Chronicles 19:18 - David slew 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen.

2 Chronicles 9:25 - Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
1 Kings 4:26 - Solomon had 40,000 stalls for horses.

Ezra 2:5 -  Arah had 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 - Arah had 652 sons.

2 Samuel 24:13 - SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE.
1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - THREE YEARS OF FAMINE.

How did Judas die?
Matthew 27:5 - Hanged himself.
Acts 1:18 - And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out.

2 Samuel 6:23 - MICHAL never had a child until she died.
2 Samuel 21:8 - MICHAL had 5 sons.

2 Kings 24:8 - Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he began to reign.
2 Chronicles 36:9 - Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign.

1 Kings 16:6-8 - 26th year of the reign of Asa, Baasha reigned over Israel.
2 Chronicles 16:1 - 36th year of the reign of Asa, Baasha reigned over Israel.

How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2

Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11

What did the inscription on Jesus' cross say?

John 19:19  Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.

Matthew 27:37  This is Jesus, the King of the Jews.

Luke 23:38  This is the King of the Jews.

Mark 15:26  The King of the Jews.

falah wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 11:39am:


Yes, friend, it is also very nasty to our homosex brothers and sisters, can you believe? This Paul is a false prophet.