abu_rashid wrote on Sep 12
th, 2011 at 8:17pm:
#1, Yadda, you are the most deceitful person here.
You consistently lie and slander Islam due to your delusional fantasies of persecution at the hands of Muslims.
#2, Islam commands the Muslims to fight to establish peace, not to fight to steal other peoples resources, nor to merely dominate over others to exert your influence on them as the Western ideology does.
#3, The Qur'an clearly says to fight those who fight you, but not to transgress bounds and be the aggressor. You can make all the cut and paste rants you like, but those are the facts.
No.
The Koran to tells moslems to fight, those who are, ....
'unbelievers'.
Abu,
Why do you wilfully ignore the contents of, and the arguments made within ISLAMIC texts ???
ISLAMIC 'religious' texts are
replete with encouragement and exhortations to moslems to bring moslem oppression down upon non-moslems.
In response to #3...."If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."Koran 3.85
In response to #3...."Allah 's Apostle said,
" I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196
In response to #3...."
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book,
until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29
Abu,
It is irrefutable that the use of violence, by moslems, to IMPOSE ISLAM upon mankind,
is promoted, encouraged and exhorted to moslems, as 'good works'....within ISLAMIC 'religious' texts.
Why do you deny it ?
"Islam commands the Muslims to fight to establish peace,..."
In response to #2....Three references in the Hadith, show that 'religious fighting' in Allah's cause [so as to
IMPOSE ISLAMIC hegemony upon others,
using violence], is an obligation for moslems...
#1,
"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.025
#2,
"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
#3,
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i
n.b.
"He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."+++
There is no persuasion.
No debate in reason.
e.g.
There is no nation, or nations, anywhere in the world today, which moslems wish to proffer, as a demonstration of how ISLAM is a meritorious philosophy.
No.
Rather it is;
"We moslems will lie to you 'unbelievers' about ISLAM, until we can IMPOSE ISLAM upon you using the tyranny of absolute political power."And why so ??
Because moslems do not recognise a right of advancement in life based upon merit.
Rather, we are told [
by moslems themselves!] that all moslems, have achieved 'merit' in this life, because they have embraced ISLAM.
Even Allah declares it, in the Koran!
"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110
AND, THE WHOLE WORLD BELONGS TO MOSLEMS
According to Allah, as per ISLAM's foundation texts, the Koran, and the Hadith, the whole world belongs to moslems [
as war booty]....
"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44
"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27
The violent supremacism which is being expressed in the actions of moslems around the world today, is sourced from within, is encouraged within, and is motivated by, ISLAM's own foundation texts, the Koran, and the Hadith.
And this attitude of domineering moslem supremacy, coupled with a sense of
automatic unearned entitlement and merit ["BECAUSE WE ARE MOSLEMS."] is taught to every moslem [from childhood], by ISLAM.
i.e.
Again, all moslems are taught from childhood, that
THEY have achieved
the highest merit in this life,
because they have embraced ISLAM.