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May 19th, 2011 at 1:22pm
 


There are emerging signs in the media, that Abbott is under increasing pressure on a number of fronts - most intensely over his Party's conflicting stances on the issue of the inevitable carbon shift...

He has also been losing traction over the NBN, elite and corporate WEALTHfare and his pet divisive issues (bludging Aussies, asylum seekers and Aborigines)...

Meantime, big business leaders and investors are becoming increasingly-frustrated with the uncertainties that self-serving attack-doG Abbott has been creating for the economy - including on the international stage...

It is about time, that this doGmatic nutjob was put under pressure over his counter-productive antics - but how will he stand up to the test!?
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Reply #1 - May 19th, 2011 at 1:25pm
 
Let's see -

Who would be under the most pressure?

The Prime Minister who was the first to lose a one term majority in over half a century, has a cobbled together Government made up on varying interest groups, who has U turned several time on policies, is currently leading a party which is returning the worst opinion pollings since polls began 3 decades ago.

Or the guy who has pulled the opposition back from the brink, caused a Government to lose all its majority, leading a party with a significant lead in the polls and setting the agenda which appeals to mainstream Australia?

Gee, I know who I think has the shortest shelf life....
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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/coalitions-campaign-and-policy-mind-the-g...

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Coalition's campaign and policy: mind the gap

May 18, 2011

THE chasm between policy and the Coalition's campaign against the carbon tax is becoming wider by the day.

Tony Abbott and his climate spokesman Greg Hunt seized on a report in yesterday's Herald citing advice to the government that a carbon price would have to rise relatively quickly to $40 a tonne to force a switch from coal-fired to gas-fired baseload electricity.

''What we now know from the secret report is it's going to require a massive increase in the cost of living before there's any impact [on emissions] at all under the Gillard model,'' Hunt said.
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In fact, views in the market differ about the price needed for an investment switch, but what we know for sure is that under the Coalition's ''Direct Action'' plan there would be no signal to any power company in the country to change anything they do in any way, except for a single brown coal-fired station, which would be paid to shut and switch to gas - at a cost to taxpayers of about $3 billion over the next decade.

A Deloitte report says that leaving investors up in the air until the end of the decade will add another $2 billion a year to the nation's power bills because of such investment uncertainty.

What we also know is that Abbott's scary numbers are almost certainly off the mark.

Abbott calculates the power price hit on his business backdrop of the day, by adding between 20 and 25 per cent to their power bills - presumably based on modelling for the Rudd government's emissions trading scheme that forecast a 19 per cent increase over the first two years.

But since 2008 massive increases in network power costs have changed the impact of a carbon price on total power bills. Preliminary Treasury modelling suggests a $25 carbon price would push up power prices by 12 per cent. The NSW Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal suggests an impact of about 11.5 per cent.

And Abbott never mentions that those businesses that are not trade exposed - like the butchers and grocery stores that he has been visiting - can pass on costs to their customers, many of whom will be receiving government compensation.

Yesterday Abbott was visiting a business that is trade exposed - a Ford car plant in Geelong - where he said the carbon tax ''could add'' $84 million to the industry's costs.

That, according to the Opposition Leader, would be ''the nail in the coffin of the motor manufacturing industry in this country that spells disaster for Australia as a First World economy''.

He did not mention that in January he promised to cut $500 million from government assistance that car makers have already factored in to the budgets of their existing operations. Or what effect that would have on either the businesses or Australia's First World status.



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Reply #3 - May 19th, 2011 at 1:29pm
 
Pressure on Abbott??  Grin  Cheesy



POLL BRINGS MORE MISERY FOR LABOR AFTER BUDGET


If this government had a duck, it would drown. It handed down a budget that was well received by the same economic pointy-heads who decried previous efforts, but was belted by sections of the press for supposedly punishing aspirational people.

Even handing out free set-top boxes to pensioners who would otherwise be left sitting in the dark when analogue TV in their region is switched off is apparently some great bungle because Gerry Harvey, always a fan of government largesse, claims he can do the job cheaper.

The opposition spent the weeks before the budget demanding it be tough and then complained because it was tough.

If Prime Minister Julia Gillard got married, the opposition would call it a stunt. Indeed, one feels that if she found a cure for cancer, the Coalition would criticise her for putting oncologists out of work - and be applauded for it.

One newspaper thought the budget too timid and carried the headline: ''That's not a knife, Treasurer''. The next day its front page blared: ''War on middle-class welfare''.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott gave a budget address-in-reply that was a searing reinforcement of every negative perception about the government and this was hailed by many, including Abbott, as ''an alternative vision''.

The government's inability to sell its policies and defend itself, combined with muddling its messages, especially over asylum seekers, is compounding its woes. So is its infatuation with Abbott and his inconsistencies. Yes, Labor needs to put the acid on him more than a government usually would for an opposition leader because it is just a heartbeat from a byelection and a change of government - but there is a limit.

It is rare, if not non-existent, now for the Prime Minister or a minister to give an interview or a press conference and, without prompting, to start talking about Abbott. They appear intimidated. It is little wonder that Abbott feels he has only to reinforce the negatives.

Last week John Scales, of JWS research, polled 2141 people in the 10 most marginal Labor seats and the 10 most marginal Coalition seats. Asked which, of the past five, had been the best government for Australia, 50 per cent nominated the Howard government, followed by 13 per cent for the Keating government, 13 per cent for the Hawke government, 12 per cent for the Rudd government, 8 per cent were unsure and, bringing up the rear, were the 4 per cent who nominated the Gillard government.

Even Labor voters were dirty on the current administration - only 10 per cent backed the Gillard government. This lagged the 23 per cent of Labor voters who backed Keating, 22 per cent Hawke, 20 per cent Rudd, 13 per cent Howard and the 12 per cent who were unsure.

Indeed the best friend the government has at the moment is the Greens, but that relationship has been strained of late. The leader, Bob Brown, is not only bolder and more articulate in his deconstruction of Abbott, but the Greens' imminent control of the Senate means Brown will be pivotal to the government's aim of reversing the polls through policy delivery.

As the Herald reported last week, even Brown has grown tetchy at what he considers a one-way relationship and he let Gillard know during what was described as a stern phone call on budget day. Brown told Gillard that the Greens were frequently protecting the government by voting against Coalition legislation and motions and by refraining from making unreasonable demands, but were receiving little in return.

The voting-against-legislation even extended to issues the Greens supported. ''We have had to oppose some of our own measures that appear as Coalition bills in order to protect the government,'' a source said of a Coalition bill to improve the indexation of defence pensions. The Greens have long championed the same move but said the Coalition bill was clumsy and uncosted. They helped Labor to defeat it but were unimpressed when they put their own bill forward and Labor rejected that.

Similarly, Brown said the Greens were aggrieved that they received no support for their own initiatives, such as the proposed levy on junk food advertising, which both Labor and the Coalition opposed.

Even though the Greens are unhappy that the mining tax has been watered down and that its diminished proceeds will fund corporate tax cuts, Brown has said the party will ultimately allow it through the Senate because it is better than nothing - which is Abbott's mining tax proposal.

That's hardly deserving of the ''extremist'' tag.

Clearly Brown would like something in return because without it he says the Greens cannot keep protecting the government.

With the all-important negotiations on the carbon price scheme to intensify over the next month, Gillard might just need to put a little sugar in Brown's bowl.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/dazed-gillard-gang-leads-with-its-chin-20110515-1eo7n.html#ixzz1MlWJeBGl
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Reply #4 - May 19th, 2011 at 1:36pm
 


http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/tough-love-or-kindness--a-taxing-dilemma-...

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Australia's strong history of means tested welfare is going through a political inversion, Ross Gittins explains.

Something very important is at stake in this year's budget and the opposition's response to it: the shape of Australia's welfare state. Will it continue to be needs-based, or will we progressively make benefits universal - available to everyone regardless of income?

Historically, people on the conservative side of politics have strongly supported means-tested benefits, whereas people on the left have been attracted to the idea of universally available benefits, thus removing the ''stigma'' attached to the receipt of benefits.

These days, however, we're witnessing a strange role reversal where the Liberals move away from needs-based benefits and Labor seeks to return to them.

Our means-tested welfare system is an inheritance from the Menzies era. The Whitlam government introduced universal health benefits in the shape of Medibank and began phasing in a non-means-tested age pension. The Fraser government was conflicted: it dismantled Medibank and restored a watered-down means test, but introduced a more generous, non-means-tested family allowance.

The Hawke-Keating government restored Medibank as Medicare, but put a lot of effort into tightening up means-testing, imposing it on the family allowance and making considerable savings to the budget.

Then came John Howard, the great disciple of Menzies, who spent all his 11 years introducing what economists have come to disparage as ''middle-class welfare''. He introduced an only lightly means-tested family tax benefit, repeatedly increasing it. He added an extra benefit for single-income families - Part B - which was means-tested only to the extent that mothers who did any paid work were rendered ineligible.

He inherited the means-tested childcare benefit but, rather than abolishing it, he added the non-means-tested 30 per cent childcare tax rebate on top. So whereas the first measure carefully excluded better-off families, the second brought them back onto the public teat.

He did something similar for the self-proclaimed ''self-funded retirees''. Older people judged too comfortably off to receive the age pension were given a special senior Australians tax rebate and a seniors health card that entitled them to pay what pensioners pay for pharmaceuticals, $5.60 a pop, rather than the $34.20 even the poorest working family pays.

Perhaps the biggest move in the direction of middle-class welfare was the decision to make superannuation payments tax-free for people 60 or older. Before, how much income tax you paid was a function of the size of your income; now it's also a function of your age. Old comfortables don't pay it, young strugglers do.

Rather than introducing paid maternity leave, Howard brought in the baby bonus, payable without means-testing to women who hadn't been in paid work as well as those who had.

He introduced a non-means-tested 30 per cent tax rebate on private health insurance and changed the formula for grants to private schools in a way that produced winners and losers, then let the losers keep the extra to which they weren't entitled.

The Rudd-Gillard government has been under continuous pressure from economists to roll back Howard's middle-class welfare. One of its first acts went the other way: fulfilling an ill-judged election promise, it increased the childcare tax rebate from 30 per cent to 50 per cent. It has also kept a promise not to change the winners-but-no-losers formula for grants to private schools. But most of its other actions have gone in the Hawke-Keating direction of tightening up means-testing. It imposed a cut-off of $150,000 a year on eligibility for the family tax benefit Parts A and B, the baby bonus, tax rebates for dependants and soon the paid parental leave payment.

The $150,000 a year sometimes applies to a couple's combined income, but often it applies just to income of the ''primary earner''. To avoid adding to the problem of high effective marginal tax rates (where the rate of gradual withdrawal of a benefit as income rises adds on to the rate of tax on the additional income), it's a ''sudden-death cut-off'': on $150,000 you get the benefit, on $150,001 you don't. Because of the sudden-death nature of the cut-off, it was set at a very high level. Even today, only about the top 17 per cent of households have pre-tax incomes of more than $150,000. And only the top 4 per cent of individuals earn more than $150,000. Arithmetically, there's no way people on these incomes can be said to be in the middle; they aren't rich as James Packer is rich, but they are undoubtedly high income-earners.

The $150,000 hasn't been indexed for inflation since it was announced in 2008 and the decision last week was to leave it unindexed until July 2014. This means the level of the cut-off is actually falling in real terms, removing more people from receiving the benefit as the years pass. The budget's other main move to reduce benefits to the comfortably off was the decision to phase out the tax rebate for dependent spouses under 40 and without children.

Tony Abbott and the Liberals have attacked these measures, condemning them as ''class warfare'' and ''the politics of envy''. Abbott has yet to say...



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The $150,000 a year sometimes applies to a couple's combined income, but often it applies just to income of the ''primary earner''. To avoid adding to the problem of high effective marginal tax rates (where the rate of gradual withdrawal of a benefit as income rises adds on to the rate of tax on the additional income), it's a ''sudden-death cut-off'': on $150,000 you get the benefit, on $150,001 you don't. Because of the sudden-death nature of the cut-off, it was set at a very high level. Even today, only about the top 17 per cent of households have pre-tax incomes of more than $150,000. And only the top 4 per cent of individuals earn more than $150,000. Arithmetically, there's no way people on these incomes can be said to be in the middle; they aren't rich as James Packer is rich, but they are undoubtedly high income-earners.

The $150,000 hasn't been indexed for inflation since it was announced in 2008 and the decision last week was to leave it unindexed until July 2014. This means the level of the cut-off is actually falling in real terms, removing more people from receiving the benefit as the years pass. The budget's other main move to reduce benefits to the comfortably off was the decision to phase out the tax rebate for dependent spouses under 40 and without children.

Tony Abbott and the Liberals have attacked these measures, condemning them as ''class warfare'' and ''the politics of envy''. Abbott has yet to say whether he will oppose them in the Senate, but his party's longstanding opposition to Labor's attempt to impose a means test on the private health insurance rebate suggests he will.

Much is at stake. You may think you pay a lot of tax, but people in almost every other developed country pay a lot more than we do, even the Kiwis. The single greatest reason for our relatively low level of taxation is our inheritance from Menzies of a lean and mean welfare system: low, flat-rate, means-tested benefits. Most other developed countries pay former-income-linked, universal benefits and have high taxes and huge government debt to show for it.

We can take our welfare system in whatever direction we choose, mean or generous. But the more generous we make it, the more tax we'll end up having to pay.

Ross Gittins is economics editor.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/tough-love-or-kindness--a-taxing-dilemma-...


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Reply #6 - May 19th, 2011 at 1:47pm
 
To advocate Abbott with all the success to Gillard’s near loss at the last election, and her continuing decline in popularity is akin to a drunk bloke waking up next to a fat ugly Shelia the next morning, and deluding himself into believing she was the best looking one left out of the bunch.  Its all fiction only in the mind of the believer!!

Look at Labor’s appalling track record before the election, and judge as to what more Abbott needed to win the election:

1. BER fiasco which Gillard was responsible for.

2. Home insulation scheme fiasco that killed 4 Australian workers

3. The political assassination of an Australian PM; Rudd

4. The water buy back fiasco.

5. The emissions trading scheme back down.


What more did Abbott need?  Considering the numerous incompetent Labor disasters, I think a year 10 student could have taken the same opportunities as Abbott did and came up with the same results. Not to mention Gillard now being her own worst enemy as she continues to lie to the Australian people about a tax and not affording them any democracy by going to another election with a mandate.
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Reply #7 - May 19th, 2011 at 2:16pm
 
culldav wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 1:47pm:
To advocate Abbott with all the success to Gillard’s near loss at the last election, and her continuing decline in popularity is akin to a drunk bloke waking up next to a fat ugly Shelia the next morning, and deluding himself into believing she was the best looking one left out of the bunch.  Its all fiction only in the mind of the believer!!

Look at Labor’s appalling track record before the election, and judge as to what more Abbott needed to win the election:

1. BER fiasco which Gillard was responsible for.

2. Home insulation scheme fiasco that killed 4 Australian workers

3. The political assassination of an Australian PM; Rudd

4. The water buy back fiasco.

5. The emissions trading scheme back down.


What more did Abbott need?  Considering the numerous incompetent Labor disasters, I think a year 10 student could have taken the same opportunities as Abbott did and came up with the same results. Not to mention Gillard now being her own worst enemy as she continues to lie to the Australian people about a tax and not affording them any democracy by going to another election with a mandate.


Agreed, Abbott just needed not be Abbott and he would've won.

and stop trying to be all high and mighty with the "oooh we don't have democracy." The people voted in August.  They voted and a government was formed. The government has every right to push through their agenda.  That is the democratic system which we have.

What a cullnuff.
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Reply #8 - May 19th, 2011 at 2:56pm
 
Another thread focussing on the Opposition leader rather than on the Government.
Tony must be doing his job. Smiley
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Reply #9 - May 19th, 2011 at 3:00pm
 
Labor seem absolutely paranoid about Abbott?

Why?

Well, like the article says, they are one by-election away from a loss of office.

They are so deeply unpopular now with both their own natural support, and the swinging voters that it is desperate times require desperate measures.

What it does mean though is that we the people lose out on effective Government.
A Government leading from week to week by a juggling act to keep a patchwork quilt of interests happy?
Hardly good for us.
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Reply #10 - May 19th, 2011 at 3:12pm
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 2:56pm:
Another thread focussing on the Opposition leader rather than on the Government.
Tony must be doing his job. Smiley



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sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 2:16pm:
culldav wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 1:47pm:
To advocate Abbott with all the success to Gillard’s near loss at the last election, and her continuing decline in popularity is akin to a drunk bloke waking up next to a fat ugly Shelia the next morning, and deluding himself into believing she was the best looking one left out of the bunch.  Its all fiction only in the mind of the believer!!

Look at Labor’s appalling track record before the election, and judge as to what more Abbott needed to win the election:

1. BER fiasco which Gillard was responsible for.

2. Home insulation scheme fiasco that killed 4 Australian workers

3. The political assassination of an Australian PM; Rudd

4. The water buy back fiasco.

5. The emissions trading scheme back down.


What more did Abbott need?  Considering the numerous incompetent Labor disasters, I think a year 10 student could have taken the same opportunities as Abbott did and came up with the same results. Not to mention Gillard now being her own worst enemy as she continues to lie to the Australian people about a tax and not affording them any democracy by going to another election with a mandate.


Agreed, Abbott just needed not be Abbott and he would've won.

and stop trying to be all high and mighty with the "oooh we don't have democracy." The people voted in August.  They voted and a government was formed. The government has every right to push through their agenda.  That is the democratic system which we have.

What a cullnuff.


It isn't very democratic when the leader of the minority government, and the deputy leader, both blatantly lied, and didn't allow the people to vote on it. At least when Howard lied, he gave us an election, thereby making his lie acceptable. I consider it more him changing his mind, than lying, because he had the decency to let us vote on it.
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It isn't very democratic when the leader of the minority government, and the deputy leader, both blatantly lied, and didn't allow the people to vote on it. At least when Howard lied, he gave us an election, thereby making his lie acceptable. I consider it more him changing his mind, than lying, because he had the decency to let us vote on it.


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Reply #13 - May 19th, 2011 at 4:04pm
 
This is purely a desperate attempt by the left, to keep a left in power regardless of who wins the election.

Abbott nearly threw out a first term government and is winning big time in the polls.

Shutup left. You are too obvious.
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Reply #14 - May 19th, 2011 at 4:05pm
 
matty wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 4:02pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 2:16pm:
culldav wrote on May 19th, 2011 at 1:47pm:
To advocate Abbott with all the success to Gillard’s near loss at the last election, and her continuing decline in popularity is akin to a drunk bloke waking up next to a fat ugly Shelia the next morning, and deluding himself into believing she was the best looking one left out of the bunch.  Its all fiction only in the mind of the believer!!

Look at Labor’s appalling track record before the election, and judge as to what more Abbott needed to win the election:

1. BER fiasco which Gillard was responsible for.

2. Home insulation scheme fiasco that killed 4 Australian workers

3. The political assassination of an Australian PM; Rudd

4. The water buy back fiasco.

5. The emissions trading scheme back down.


What more did Abbott need?  Considering the numerous incompetent Labor disasters, I think a year 10 student could have taken the same opportunities as Abbott did and came up with the same results. Not to mention Gillard now being her own worst enemy as she continues to lie to the Australian people about a tax and not affording them any democracy by going to another election with a mandate.


Agreed, Abbott just needed not be Abbott and he would've won.

and stop trying to be all high and mighty with the "oooh we don't have democracy." The people voted in August.  They voted and a government was formed. The government has every right to push through their agenda.  That is the democratic system which we have.

What a cullnuff.


It isn't very democratic when the leader of the minority government, and the deputy leader, both blatantly lied, and didn't allow the people to vote on it. At least when Howard lied, he gave us an election, thereby making his lie acceptable. I consider it more him changing his mind, than lying, because he had the decency to let us vote on it.

To take an apparent lie to an election = no lie at all.
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