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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #330 - May 19^th, 2011 at 1:38am

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 9:02pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:46pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:39pm:

Quick question: which year's climate data is used as the norm aganst which anomalies are identified as anomalies?

Why? Can you not read?

I can I just don't know where to look for the info.

YOU CAN'T READ BECAUSE YOU HAVE GONE BLIND!! Grin

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #331 - May 19^th, 2011 at 1:40am

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 9:10pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:34am:

He wouldn't need to in order to be able to calculate the rate of warming for a X increase in CO2. It really is elementary physics.

Can you run it by us quickly, please. Just the elementary bits.

Thank you so much.

LOL You're expecting a lot. He doesn't understand the issue itself and much less likely that of any physics.
Even when confronted with the raw data and facts all it can mutter and splutter is that he doesn't like being proved wrong.

DO YOU MEAN SPLUTTER WITH CARROTS AND SUCH FORTH... LOL! Shocked

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #332 - May 19^th, 2011 at 1:43am

freediver wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 9:57pm:

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Flannery made a prediction about when tempratures would fall (in centuries), if all human CO2 emission topped (not methane or water vapor emission). I think it is a very stupid thing to say. He was rattled by Bolt and he came out ith a massive howler.

How was it stupid? How is it different from mainstream climate science?

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So Abbott is exactly right when he says that an Australian carbon tax will not make a scrap of difference to the environment in a 1000 years. He could have said any number between 1 and a million.

Is he exactly right in what he actually says? Remember, he was not giving his own interpretation, he was claiming something on behalf of Flannery. I got more of the quote from hansard:

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We heard from the government’s principal climate change salesman, Professor Flannery, just last Friday that it will not make a difference for a thousand years.

Do you understand that he is making a statement about Flannery, not just about his views on the tax - a statement that is a lie?

NO I DON'T THINK HE(PRETENDINGLY) DOES...

I LOVE PLAYING PRETEND SOME TIMES! Roll Eyes

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #334 - May 19^th, 2011 at 11:11am

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 7:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 7:19pm:

yet despite that there is massive amounts of evidence to totally dispute it.

So you won't have any trouble providing this thus far elusive evidence, right? Right?? Cos you guys talk about it's existence a lot but can never actually present it. What's the go there?! Roll Eyes

Would you like a colourful graph would you?

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #335 - May 19^th, 2011 at 11:15am

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

He's not, actually, AL Gore majored in oceanography, which is a damned site more than Monckton has ever did.

But, even if that were true, so what? I know I'VE never cited Al Gore as an authority, although his movie WAS a very good representation of the science, unlike Moncktons lies and misrepresentations.

But Lord Monckton wouldn't be as trustworthy as a Professor of Economics though would he.
We could all use a good beancounter when guessing and extrapolating numbers.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #336 - May 19^th, 2011 at 1:47pm

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

He's not, actually, AL Gore majored in oceanography, which is a damned site more than Monckton has ever did.

You know things about him that even he doesn't know.

"Al Gore was born on March 31, 1948, the son of former U.S. Senator Albert Gore, Sr. and Pauline Gore. Raised in Carthage, Tennessee, and Washington, D.C., he received a degree in government with honors from Harvard University in 1969. After graduation, he volunteered for enlistment in the U.S. Army and served in the Vietnam War. Upon returning from Vietnam, Al Gore became an investigative reporter with the Tennessean in Nashville, where he also attended Vanderbilt University's Divinity School and then Law School."
http://www.algore.com/about.html

The 'climate' debate' hasn't been about the 'climate' for a very long time now.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #337 - May 19^th, 2011 at 4:09pm

Soren wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 1:47pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

He's not, actually, AL Gore majored in oceanography, which is a damned site more than Monckton has ever did.

You know things about him that even he doesn't know.

"Al Gore was born on March 31, 1948, the son of former U.S. Senator Albert Gore, Sr. and Pauline Gore. Raised in Carthage, Tennessee, and Washington, D.C., he received a degree in government with honors from Harvard University in 1969. After graduation, he volunteered for enlistment in the U.S. Army and served in the Vietnam War. Upon returning from Vietnam, Al Gore became an investigative reporter with the Tennessean in Nashville, where he also attended Vanderbilt University's Divinity School and then Law School."
http://www.algore.com/about.html

The 'climate' debate' hasn't been about the 'climate' for a very long time now.

A large part of the reason is that they cant debate the climate change when they dont have proof, oh and the big windfall in global governance or complete local control keeps it political.

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astro_surf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981	Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery? Reply #338 - May 19^th, 2011 at 6:51pm A lot of hot air but STILL no evidence. C'mon guys, you insist it's out there, let's see it!
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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #339 - May 19^th, 2011 at 6:59pm

[quote author=soren2 link=1305115643/330#336 date=1305776836]]

Yeah, i misread his Wiki page - he did take a class in oceanography though! Grin

But anyway, who cares about Al Gore? It's the weakest of all denier arguments:

"Uh, you know we have multiple lines of evidence supporting AGW and that EVERY scientific body on the planet supports the conclusions of the IPCC.."

"But Al Gore is fat! Hur hur hur!"

Truly scintillating intellectual discourse Roll Eyes

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So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #340 - May 19^th, 2011 at 7:02pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 11:11am:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 7:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 7:19pm:

yet despite that there is massive amounts of evidence to totally dispute it.

So you won't have any trouble providing this thus far elusive evidence, right? Right?? Cos you guys talk about it's existence a lot but can never actually present it. What's the go there?! Roll Eyes

Would you like a colourful graph would you?

Anything will do, anything other than you simply saying evidence exists. I would like to see the evidence, graph or no graph.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #341 - May 19^th, 2011 at 7:03pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 4:09pm:

Soren wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 1:47pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

He's not, actually, AL Gore majored in oceanography, which is a damned site more than Monckton has ever did.

You know things about him that even he doesn't know.

"Al Gore was born on March 31, 1948, the son of former U.S. Senator Albert Gore, Sr. and Pauline Gore. Raised in Carthage, Tennessee, and Washington, D.C., he received a degree in government with honors from Harvard University in 1969. After graduation, he volunteered for enlistment in the U.S. Army and served in the Vietnam War. Upon returning from Vietnam, Al Gore became an investigative reporter with the Tennessean in Nashville, where he also attended Vanderbilt University's Divinity School and then Law School."
http://www.algore.com/about.html

The 'climate' debate' hasn't been about the 'climate' for a very long time now.

A large part of the reason is that they cant debate the climate change when they dont have proof, oh and the big windfall in global governance or complete local control keeps it political.

Correct Soren & Progressive

The gullible gertie is not up to scratch to debate the issue, never provides any factual evidence and whenever factual evidence is provided proving that global warming is a hoax the gertie is virtually running around crying "liar liar pants on fire" but notice that it cant disprove the facts.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #342 - May 19^th, 2011 at 7:04pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 11:15am:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

Soren wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

astro_surf wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:22pm:

creep wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

Oh no, another leading authority Lord Monckton from Copenhagen debunks the climate change and exposes the scam.

HAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Grin

You total douchebag, I can't believe you just said that! What is he an authority on? What are his qualifications exactly?

He is as qualified as Al Gore. Most of us are.

He's not, actually, AL Gore majored in oceanography, which is a damned site more than Monckton has ever did.

But, even if that were true, so what? I know I'VE never cited Al Gore as an authority, although his movie WAS a very good representation of the science, unlike Moncktons lies and misrepresentations.

But Lord Monckton wouldn't be as trustworthy as a Professor of Economics though would he.
We could all use a good beancounter when guessing and esxtrapolating numbers.

Cant get any closer to the raw data than Lord Monckton, and Monckton includes ALL the data rather than the scaremongerers who want to edit it as was shown by Muller's video.

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Re: Should Abbott apologise to Flannery?
Reply #344 - May 19^th, 2011 at 7:31pm

astro_surf wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 6:59pm:

[quote author=soren2 link=1305115643/330#336 date=1305776836]]

Yeah, i misread his Wiki page - he did take a class in oceanography though! Grin

But anyway, who cares about Al Gore? It's the weakest of all denier arguments:

"Uh, you know we have multiple lines of evidence supporting AGW and that EVERY scientific body on the planet supports the conclusions of the IPCC.."

"But Al Gore is fat! Hur hur hur!"

Truly scintillating intellectual discourse Roll Eyes

He's very good at buying prime real estate though isn't he.

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