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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:


once upon a time FD used to even defend muslims 

Jesus distilled it down to, don't treat other people ways you don't want to be treated.

He was a socialist

AusGeoff,

You seem to be implying that it is a terrible and onerous thing, to ask individuals, who wish to live in a society of men and women, to also live according to a set of fair rules [i.e. one set of rules, which apply equally to all individuals]
....and, if you discover, that those specific laws/rules, were adopted, specifically, from Judeo-Christian [biblical] ethics/rules ?

Surely, it doesn't matter where the ethics/rules come from, as much as do those ethics/rules tend to produce peace and order, in a society of men and women ?


QUESTION;
Is it a terrible thing, to institute a list of laws among/within a community of people, so as to try to curb, strife, theft and murder among them ?
...and then is it reasonable to then claim that it is cruel to institute an agreed punishment, against those individuals who transgress the agreed community laws [i.e. laws which are agreed to, by the majority of a community] ?


e.g.
6 of the Ten Commandments from the bible......
Honor your Godly parents.            [is it unreasonable, to ask the young to respect the old ? ]
Don't kill.                                          [is it unreasonable, to ask persons to NOT murder others ? ]
Don't commit adultery.                  [is it unreasonable, to ask persons to NOT fornicate among themselves, in the manner, that wild beasts do ? ]
Don't steal.                                    [is it unreasonable, to ask persons to NOT take the property of other persons ? ]
Don't tell porkies, or speak false testimony against your neighbor.            [is it unreasonable, to ask persons to NOT blatantly lie to/and against others ? ]
Don't covet what belongs to others.                        [is it unreasonable, to ask persons to NOT covet what others posses ? ]

covet = = yearn to possess (something belonging to someone else).


1 John 5:2
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


grievous = = (of something bad) very severe or serious.


Or is it your opinion, that those Judeo-Christian [biblical] ethics/commandments ARE [and would be] grievous to many of us - because they were adopted specifically, from Judeo-Christian [biblical] ethics/rules ?