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Reply #45 - May 4^th, 2011 at 11:01am

____ wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:17am:

____ wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:05am:

Polls like political support is not fixed. Considering Labor's dog breakfast on the way they released news of a price on carbon and then it's lack of policy detail, this is a great starting point to shifting the majority back to reducing human caused climate change through linked policies.

Now if someone ran a poll asking Australians if they are willing to have cuts to their living standards, decreased super payouts when they retire, greater health costs, higher food prices and increased unemployment rates due to human caused climate change, how do you think they would vote?

All is required to shift those that are against a price on carbon is to educate them on what will happen to them without one.

The majority of Australians, unlike yourself are well aware we produce only 1% of the world's CO2 and are not willing to destroy our economy to make you greenies feel good about yourselves.

If i thought it would make a rat's rectum bit of difference I'd support it too; but I know when something is a total waste of time and effort, unlike yourself.

Th tax will achieve no measurable difference to the world's CO2, so it it is a pointless wankfest and therefore totally embraced by the greens. Grin

First, you underestimated Australia's carbon pollution by 50% ... accident or ignorance? Then you ignore our exported emissions not included in this figure.

Second, a price on carbon will not destroy the Australian economy, it will be one of many policies used to shift the economy towards a sustainable and strong economy. Something the hard right don't want.

A carbon tax will not reduce spiraling world temperatures and the subsequent heating of the world's permafrost and so the release of another greenhouse gas 20 times more heat trapping than carbon, methane, by itself. Yet the carbon tax will then lead to an ETS that will in time interlock with the Emission Trading Schemes in 36 other economies already existing and all the other Emission Schemes planned.

Are you against China implement a Emissions Trading Scheme, because if you are then keep on opposing an Emission Trading Scheme in Australia.

A Carbon Tax is the First Step towards a proper ETS. An ETS then ends this carbon tax.

My bad, we produce a whopping 1.5% of the world's CO2 and taxing our output will save humanity and end world hunger and quickly bring about world peace. Horseshiat!

Taxing Australians on CO2 consumption will achieve bugger all except make everything dearer. Except for those that get some of their tax back in the form of extra welfare payments.

As longy pointed out, even those countries with a perfectly performing carbon tax are still increasing their carbon output, so what is the fuken point?

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Re: 72% Of Lib Voters Know CC Is Real
Reply #46 - May 4^th, 2011 at 11:30am

____ wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:17am:

____ wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:05am:

Polls like political support is not fixed. Considering Labor's dog breakfast on the way they released news of a price on carbon and then it's lack of policy detail, this is a great starting point to shifting the majority back to reducing human caused climate change through linked policies.

Now if someone ran a poll asking Australians if they are willing to have cuts to their living standards, decreased super payouts when they retire, greater health costs, higher food prices and increased unemployment rates due to human caused climate change, how do you think they would vote?

All is required to shift those that are against a price on carbon is to educate them on what will happen to them without one.

The majority of Australians, unlike yourself are well aware we produce only 1% of the world's CO2 and are not willing to destroy our economy to make you greenies feel good about yourselves.

If i thought it would make a rat's rectum bit of difference I'd support it too; but I know when something is a total waste of time and effort, unlike yourself.

Th tax will achieve no measurable difference to the world's CO2, so it it is a pointless wankfest and therefore totally embraced by the greens. Grin

First, you underestimated Australia's carbon pollution by 50% ... accident or ignorance? Then you ignore our exported emissions not included in this figure.

Second, a price on carbon will not destroy the Australian economy, it will be one of many policies used to shift the economy towards a sustainable and strong economy. Something the hard right don't want.

A carbon tax will not reduce spiraling world temperatures and the subsequent heating of the world's permafrost and so the release of another greenhouse gas 20 times more heat trapping than carbon, methane, by itself. Yet the carbon tax will then lead to an ETS that will in time interlock with the Emission Trading Schemes in 36 other economies already existing and all the other Emission Schemes planned.

Are you against China implement a Emissions Trading Scheme, because if you are then keep on opposing an Emission Trading Scheme in Australia.

A Carbon Tax is the First Step towards a proper ETS. An ETS then ends this carbon tax.

Then why not simply bring in an ETS in July 2012 (or whenever it is) instead of bringing in a Carbon Tax (which you admit won't affect the climate) first??

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Reply #48 - May 4^th, 2011 at 12:21pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

It's like Groundhog Day on here.

You come on, count the environment threads, carbon tax threads, asylum seekers threads and they probably add up to 90% of all on here.

Woody do you realize how many fking threads you start about the environment???????

greens are extreme(ly) pushy about their climate policies.

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Reply #49 - May 4^th, 2011 at 1:07pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:21pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

It's like Groundhog Day on here.

You come on, count the environment threads, carbon tax threads, asylum seekers threads and they probably add up to 90% of all on here.

Woody do you realize how many fking threads you start about the environment???????

greens are extreme(ly) pushy about their climate policies.

and if they dont get exactly what they want, they vote against it just liek the ETS.

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Reply #50 - May 4^th, 2011 at 1:16pm

____ wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 6:22am:

72% of Coalition Voters Know CC Is Real

63% of Coalition Voters Know Humans Are A Cause Of Climate Change

Yet They Support A Leader Who Wants To Speed Up Human Caused Climate Change and Destroy Australian's Living Standards and Wealth.

Why are Liberals so anti High Living Standards?

http://resources.news.com.au/files/2011/05/03/1226049/460725-110504-climate-news...

Surely, If People Desire To Grow Greater Australian Living Standards They Would Vote Greens. As For Liberal Voters, They Are Safe To Vote Greens and then Preference Liberals. Only in one electorates are Greens an threat to Liberals ~ Brisbane.

THEY DON'T SUPPORT ABBOTT!

WHERE IS THAT BETTING MARKET? Wink

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Reply #51 - May 4^th, 2011 at 5:35pm

Maqqa wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 7:17am:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 7:11am:

The BIG divide comes with the "are you prepared to make any sacrifice to DEAL with it" for future generations ?

Coalition voters overwhelmingly say ...

"Can't someone ELSE do it "

the left comes along and say

"I'm not paying for it!"

So, the rights not telling their kids to pay for it?!!? Lips Sealed

[... that'll f(&*%^ im! Cheesy

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Reply #52 - May 4^th, 2011 at 5:38pm

Maqqa wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 7:44am:

Climate Change happens EVERY SECOND of the day - so what is your point?!

You don't understand the first word of what you wrote! Cheesy

Exactly how many times does this forum have to prove you are a complete joke? Cry

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Reply #53 - May 4^th, 2011 at 5:41pm

skippy. wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 8:19am:

astro_surf wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 8:13am:

Maqqa wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 6:56am:

Climate change happens every second of the day - so what's your point?!

No it doesn't, you ignorant fool, it changes when one or more climate forcing are altered. Maybe you're thinking of weather?

Yes I love it when the uneducated confusionalists don't even know the difference between the weather and the climate, really, its basic sh it, but these idiots trot this line out on a daily basis.

It can only indicate one thing: TONY ABBOTT HAS LOST ALL MOMENTUM! Wink

TONY ABBOTT IS A RHODES SCHOLAR... Wink

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: 72% Of Lib Voters Know CC Is Real Reply #54 - May 4^th, 2011 at 5:46pm Everyone here knows the Carbon Tax is part of the never ending insatiable appetite of middle class aspirational thugs for tax payers dollars,. ' How long oh Lord must the working class carry these useless Middle Class slobs?
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Reply #55 - May 4^th, 2011 at 7:16pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 1:07pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:21pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

It's like Groundhog Day on here.

You come on, count the environment threads, carbon tax threads, asylum seekers threads and they probably add up to 90% of all on here.

Woody do you realize how many fking threads you start about the environment???????

greens are extreme(ly) pushy about their climate policies.

and if they dont get exactly what they want, they vote against it just liek the ETS.

right of course, and if he doesnt get what HE WANTS with the cost of CARBON TAX.. he will vote against" it "as well...

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Reply #56 - May 4^th, 2011 at 10:16pm

cods wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 7:16pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 1:07pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:21pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

It's like Groundhog Day on here.

You come on, count the environment threads, carbon tax threads, asylum seekers threads and they probably add up to 90% of all on here.

Woody do you realize how many fking threads you start about the environment???????

greens are extreme(ly) pushy about their climate policies.

and if they dont get exactly what they want, they vote against it just liek the ETS.

right of course, and if he doesnt get what HE WANTS with the cost of CARBON TAX.. he will vote against" it "as well...

That's hilarious. Don't see Andrei's concern when it's Maqqa or Matty flooding the forum with their inane threads. Selective criticism much?

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 11:23am:

So tell me, you'd like to see more and more craphouse coloured people in Australia right?&&Yeah good idea moron.&&

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Reply #58 - May 4^th, 2011 at 10:54pm

astro_surf wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 10:16pm:

cods wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 7:16pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 1:07pm:

progressiveslol wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 12:21pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

It's like Groundhog Day on here.

You come on, count the environment threads, carbon tax threads, asylum seekers threads and they probably add up to 90% of all on here.

Woody do you realize how many fking threads you start about the environment???????

greens are extreme(ly) pushy about their climate policies.

and if they dont get exactly what they want, they vote against it just liek the ETS.

right of course, and if he doesnt get what HE WANTS with the cost of CARBON TAX.. he will vote against" it "as well...

That's hilarious. Don't see Andrei's concern when it's Maqqa or Matty flooding the forum with their inane threads. Selective criticism much?

I dont know about anyone else, but I can handle the responses that are inane, but to create threads over and over that are one line inane or SPAM 5 threads with the exact inane text, now that is a problem.

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