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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #45 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:00pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:53pm: Sappho wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:43pm: If I believe that theists do not exist and I atheist? And if I don't believe in definite articles, am I an a-the-ist? Yes, and if you're also French, you could be an Alean.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #46 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:03pm muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:59pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:40pm: You're a (syncretic) theist (of sorts)... You'll do... I don't know about syncretic. It depends how good the food is. Asian-African-Indian stew... Blended to offend everyone.
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Re: People who believe that God does not exist
Reply #47 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:07pm

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:00pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:53pm:

Sappho wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:43pm:

If I believe that theists do not exist and I atheist? Wink

And if I don't believe in definite articles, am I an a-the-ist?

Yes, and if you're also French, you could be an Alean.

Or maybe Chinese... Or Russian?

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #48 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:08pm anyway, this is silly. If the Atheist Forum of Australia is looking in, the least we should do is find a Christian to participate. I mean noblesse oblige and all that.
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Reply #49 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:09pm

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:08pm:

anyway, this is silly. If the Atheist Forum of Australia is looking in, the least we should do is find a Christian to participate. I mean noblesse oblige and all that.

What evidence do we have that "they" are watching us?

Do "they" got theists?

Anyway oblige away, there Syncretos Theosian.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #50 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:10pm It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:29pm: Ok, The Atheist Forum of Australia is looking in on this Thread. ...someone highlighted it to em. I blame Nellie. This comment. Quote: Do "they" got theists? Only Atheistic theists, like me I guess.
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Reply #51 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:15pm

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:10pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 10:29pm:

Ok,
The Atheist Forum of Australia is looking in on this Thread.

...someone highlighted it to em. I blame Nellie.

This comment.

Oh... OK...

I'm on... ahem...

Greetings disbelievers one and all, we come in peace...

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When the theist states “I believe god exists”, he necessarily must/will inevitably go on to define what the nature of that belief is. He must define the thing in which he believes – his theism. That is what the act of “believing-in” requires of the believer.

This is not true of the “atheist”. His response to the theist is “I don’t believe you”.

He is not required to develop an ism – His statement does not require an “atheology”.

His is not a “believing-in” the non-existence of god in the manner that the theist must necessarily believe-in the existence of god.

So, the statement “atheists believe in the proposition that god does not exist” leads to a misapprehension in that it may allow one to think that it is consequentially the same as “theists believe in the proposition that god exists”.

The statement “atheists disbelieve the proposition that god exists” dispels that linguistic illusion and marks “atheism” as attributively dissimilar to “theism”.

It may be said that atheists are permanently in the state of absence-of-belief-in-god, so long as no one infers from that that they are actively “believing-in the non-existence of god”.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #52 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:20pm So it's a bit like if you drink tea, you really need to specify how many sugars you take, whether you take milk or lemon etc. (théology) - Whereas a non tea drinker doesn't really need to develop an equivalent non-tea drinking théology.
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Reply #53 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:38pm

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:20pm:

So it's a bit like if you drink tea, you really need to specify how many sugars you take, whether you take milk or lemon etc. (théology)

- Whereas a non tea drinker doesn't really need to develop an equivalent non-tea drinking théology.

Yairs...

Or when a consumer of strong curries in one's midst states “Fear not... My farts smell good”, he necessarily must/will inevitably go on to define (as the paint peels inexorably off the walls after he lets one rip) what the hell he is talking about.

This is not true of the smeller. His response to the farter (after his compulsion to vomit gradually subsides) is “I don’t believe you”.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #54 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:54pm isn't it the very valid observation? 'that for every action, there is an equal and opposite re-action'.?
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Sappho Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1406 Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #55 - May 1^st, 2011 at 12:00am Emma wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 11:54pm: isn't it the very valid observation? 'that for every action, there is an equal and opposite re-action'.? What! You don't mean that atheism is the antonym of theism do you?
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #56 - May 1^st, 2011 at 12:30am you know ?- you are right on there - Sappho!
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Reply #57 - May 1^st, 2011 at 12:36am

Emma wrote on May 1^st, 2011 at 12:30am:

you know ?- you are right on there - Sappho! Cheesy

OMG it's getting freaky in here... so what you really mean is that if Theists believe, then Atheists don't believe and that a thread talking about Atheists believing is merely reflecting a syntax error resulting from a lack of understanding for antonyms?

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Sappho Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1406 Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #58 - May 1^st, 2011 at 12:43am Does Freediver believe that syntax errors don't exist?
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: People who believe that God does not exist Reply #59 - May 1^st, 2011 at 2:02am Exactly-- Put it better than I. Apropos Ozpo - "it's happening all over"!!
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