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Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:10pm
 
Dump baby bonus, says Anglican Church's key advisory group
John Masanauskas, Matt Johnston From: Herald Sun April 28, 2011 12:00AM


UPDATE 11.08am: SOME baby bonuses are being used to feed poker machine habits and buy plasma TVs and should be scrapped, key Independent MP Tony Windsor says.

Mr Windsor has backed calls from a church advisory group to get rid of the baby bonus to help slow down population growth.



The Anglican Church's key advisory group also wants migration cut.

In a submission to a federal population inquiry, the general synod's public affairs commission has described population growth as a taboo subject and "the elephant in the room".

The commission has proposed a halt to "any policy that provides an incentive specifically and primarily to increase Australia's population, notably the baby bonus".

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/dump-baby-bonus-says-church/story-e6frf7jo-1226045857136



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Reply #1 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:13pm
 
Absolutely. Gone in 60 seconds.
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Reply #2 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:17pm
 
Or at very least change the qualifications..

Paying bogans to bonk probably wasn't the original intention...
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Reply #3 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:22pm
 
I don't often agree with "the church" but in this case they are spot on.
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Reply #4 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:22pm
 
Anything to get their vote, gizmo.

Remember Costello? One for mum, one for dad and one for the country?

Who gets the seventh?
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Reply #5 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:23pm
 



If only the Libs had put the best interests of children and families first in the first instance - and increased existing Family Tax Benefit payments across the early years of a child's life (and/or introduced a sensible Maternity/Parental Pay system) for low-middle income families...

Instead, they went for an ill-conceived, counter-productive and anti-social non-means-tested child-bearing incentive scam - as if putting a lump-sum payout on a baby's head was ever a good idea!?

To make matters worse, they also incentivised bean-counters to run high-cost govt-subsidised production line Child Handling Centres - and in the process destroyed the existing affordable and family-oriented community childcare system...

Go figure, eh!?
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Reply #6 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:28pm
 
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Paying bogans to bonk probably wasn't the original intention...


I don't think they were ever too fussy with who the humper and the humpee was. As long as the result was a bouncing sprog.
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Reply #7 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:28pm
 
Equitist wrote on Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:23pm:
If only the Libs had put the best interests of children and families first in the first instance - and increased existing Family Tax Benefit payments across the early years of a child's life (and/or increased a sensible Maternity/Parental Pay system) for low-middle income families...

Instead, they went for an ill-conceived, counter-productive and anti-social non-means-tested child-bearing incentive scam - as if putting a lump-sum payout on a baby's head was ever a good idea!?

To make matters worse, they also incentivised bean-counters to run high-cost govt-subsidised production line Child Handling Centres - and in the process destroyed the existing affordable and family-oriented community childcare system...

Go figure, eh!?


All upheld by the Labor Government


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Reply #8 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:33pm
 
ditto.
dump the silly thing, irrespective of who is doing it, it remains a bad idea.
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Reply #9 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:39pm
 
Too many single parents are 'benefit dependent'.   Sad


The OECD has recommended childcare support programs be extended for working parents.



AUSTRALIA should make single parents meet tougher work, training and job search requirements before giving them welfare payments, according to the OECD. It also recommended the extension of childcare support programs for working parents.

Joblessness among sole parent families was a significant problem in Australia, the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development said in its Doing Better for Families report published last night.

''The sole-parent employment rate is one of the lowest in the OECD, which contributes to an above-average poverty rate for sole-parent families,'' the report said.


''This issue is of particular concern as around one in five children live in such households, and projections show that the number is likely to increase by 20 per cent over the next 25 years.''

Australia had provided long periods of support to single parents with few conditions, and this had increased benefit dependency, the report said.

More recently, the age of the youngest child at which parents were entitled to income support was decreased. ''Australian policy should continue to support work, training or job search requirements for recipients of sole-parent benefits.''

The report also said that Australia spent less on childcare than most other member countries. ''Only 40 per cent of children aged less than six years [are] enrolled in formal childcare.

''Australia should consider extending its childcare support programs to provide more help to working parents,'' it said.


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Reply #10 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:43pm
 
How many people are encouraged to have baby's that they shouldn't, by this very thing - The baby bonus.   Sad
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Reply #11 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:45pm
 
What gets me is why they didn't try to get more out of it.

Like saying you could only get it if you were married, a church goer and owned three Australian made woolen jumpers.

They'd increase the birth rate, bump up the marriage rate, increase flagging church attendance and support both the wool and manufacturing industries.
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Reply #12 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 1:58pm
 
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Not many at all, I think.
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Reply #13 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 2:01pm
 
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How many people are encouraged to have baby's that they shouldn't, by this very thing - The baby bonus.   Sad  


Only an idiot would think this is why people have kids.

If my wife doesnt return to work until our oldest hits schools, we have forgone well over $350k in wages in that time, and that not factoring in further kids.

Yeah, we did it for the $5k  Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 2:03pm
 
I may be wrong...but hasnt the baby bonus been replaced with maternity leave anyway? Isn't it one or the other, and considering the maternity leave pays more there isn't really a need for the bonus anymore?
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