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MP explains why men have affairs
Apr 7^th, 2011 at 9:50pm

I am beginning to understand why Abu thinks our 'decadent ways' cause marital problems.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/mp-explains-why-men-have-affairs/story-fn3dxity-1226035609952

MALAYSIAN men have extramarital sex because of "wives who neglect their responsibilities" to their husbands, a Malaysian MP has told his country's parliament, outraging women's groups.

"Husbands driving home after work see things that are sexually arousing and go to their wives to ease their urges," said independent lawmaker Ibrahim Ali, according to online portal Malaysiakini.

"But when they come home to their wives, they will say, 'wait, I'm cooking,' or 'wait, I'm getting ready to visit relatives'," Ibrahim said.

"In Islam, wives are supposed to stop everything to fulfil their husband's demands."

Ali heads Perkasa, a right-wing Malay nationalist group, seeking to protect ethnic Malay dominance in politics.

His strident comments came as he asked about plans by the government's religious development department to educate wives on their responsibilities.

Wives "failing in their duties" pushed men to go to "private places to satisfy their urges", he said.

An aide to the lawmaker has confirmed the remarks but has declined further comment.

His comments have prompted fury among women's groups in a nation with a growing sex industry and a problem with human trafficking.

Women's Aid Organisation chief Ivy Josiah said Ibrahim's comments were unacceptable for a parliamentarian.

"I am appalled as he equates women to being a sex toy and what is worse is that he uses religion to try and justify his position," she said.

"The comments not only show that Ibrahim Ali is a Malay supremacist but a male supremacist as well."

Rights group Tenaganita, which monitors issues of human trafficking and abuse, said such sentiments were one of the causes of human trafficking in the country.

"Because people like Ibrahim Ali believe it is their right to get sex anytime from their wives, or otherwise seek it from elsewhere, that's why you have a growing sex industry and we see such human trafficking cases," senior coordinator Aegile Fernandez said.

Last March, the government launched a national plan against human trafficking as the country moved to quash its image as a transit point for traffickers.

With one of Asia's largest populations of foreign labour, Malaysia relies on illegal and legal migrants to work as domestic servants in plantations and factories and to service the local sex industry.

Malaysian lawmakers also clashed with women's groups last month after a government parliamentarian claimed women were "slow" at the wheel and "oblivious" on the roads.

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Reply #1 - Apr 8^th, 2011 at 2:23am

Are you normal fd?

According to Islam, anyone making such statements would be liable to prosecution for openly calling people to commit capital offenses.

Honestly, you still have the ability to astound me with the absolute drivel you come out with.

*waits for the desperate question* "What would the punishment be??"

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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: MP explains why men have affairs Reply #2 - Apr 8^th, 2011 at 9:51am "Husbands driving home after work see things that are sexually arousing and go to their wives to ease their urges," said independent lawmaker Ibrahim Ali, according to online portal Malaysiakini. What street is this guy driving down after work is what I would like to know. I bet it's not Oxford Street.
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Reply #3 - Apr 8^th, 2011 at 10:21am

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 9:50pm:

"Husbands driving home after work see things that are sexually arousing and go to their wives to ease their urges," said independent lawmaker Ibrahim Ali, according to online portal Malaysiakini.

"But when they come home to their wives, they will say, 'wait, I'm cooking,' or 'wait, I'm getting ready to visit relatives'," Ibrahim said.

"In Islam, wives are supposed to stop everything to fulfil their husband's demands."

....Women's Aid Organisation chief Ivy Josiah said Ibrahim's comments were unacceptable for a parliamentarian.

"I am appalled as he equates women to being a sex toy and what is worse is that he uses religion to try and justify his position," she said.

"The comments not only show that Ibrahim Ali is a Malay supremacist but a male supremacist as well."

I am shocked that these Malaysian women do not know their place!
/sarc off

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The Koran states that the woman, the wife, has the status of a field [of earth, 'tilth'].

And her husband is to use her [plough her] as he wishes ['how ye will'].

And remember that every word in the Koran, has the sanctity of coming directly from Allah himself.

And Allah is never wrong, mistaken.

"Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe."
Koran 2.223

Dictionary;
tilth = = cultivation of land; tillage.

The Koran [Allah] instructs muslims to beat disobedient wives, but ever so lightly.

And you know, don't you, that moslem men do beat their wives,...ever so lightly.

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)."
Koran 4.034

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AN OBVIOUS EXAMPLE OF 'PLOUGHING YOUR FIELD', in a Sharia jurisdiction.....

April 11, 2008
8-year-old girl seeks divorce in Yemen
.....SANA’A, April 9 - An eight-year-old girl decided last week to go the Sana’a West Court to prosecute her father, who forced her to marry a 30-year-old man......
.......Whenever I wanted to play in the yard he beat me and asked me to go to the bedroom with him. This lasted for two months," added Nasser. "He was too tough with me, and whenever I asked him for mercy, he beat me and slapped me and then used me.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/020644.php

Sharia jurisdictions are so just, and ISLAM is so 'liberating' for women, AND FOR LITTLE 8 YEAR OLD GIRLS.
Doesn't it just make you 'oppressed' 'unbelieving' women just want to convert into being a muslima?
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Google;
young UK muslim girls forced to marry

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47352 At my desk.	Re: MP explains why men have affairs Reply #4 - Apr 8^th, 2011 at 11:48pm Quote: According to Islam, anyone making such statements would be liable to prosecution for openly calling people to commit capital offenses. Which statements? And what would the punishement be?
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: MP explains why men have affairs Reply #5 - Apr 9^th, 2011 at 9:10pm "In Islam, wives are supposed to stop everything to fulfil their husband's demands." - from the OP ROFLMAO! In Oz .. it is the husband who stops everything to fulfil his wife's demands lmao
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Reply #6 - Apr 9^th, 2011 at 11:58pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 9^th, 2011 at 9:10pm:

"In Islam, wives are supposed to stop everything to fulfil their husband's demands."

- from the OP

ROFLMAO!

In Oz .. it is the husband who stops everything to fulfil his wife's demands lmao

Men have affairs because they get bored with their wives -
you can't expect a man to eat chicken every day -
sometimes he likes a nice steak instead.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: MP explains why men have affairs Reply #7 - Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:41am Yeah .. same applies to women too Bobby. I guess that must prove that BOTH men AND women are human beings hey.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95236 Melbourne Gender:	Re: MP explains why men have affairs Reply #8 - Apr 10^th, 2011 at 12:55pm Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:41am: Yeah .. same applies to women too Bobby. I guess that must prove that BOTH men AND women are human beings hey. What !!!!! - women get bored with their husbands too? Is that why they have affairs? - ohhhhhhhhhh
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Reply #9 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 8:11am

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:41am:

Yeah .. same applies to women too Bobby.

I guess that must prove that BOTH men AND women are human beings hey.

Lisa,
bobbythebat1,

You publicly bicker with each other, over what is the 'proper' justification for being unfaithful to a spouse.

But neither of you have any comment, about the 8 yr old Yemen girl who was raped by her moslem 'husband' ???

Or about the 'rights' of women under ISLAM ???

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #10 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 12:58pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 11^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 10^th, 2011 at 9:41am:

Yeah .. same applies to women too Bobby.

I guess that must prove that BOTH men AND women are human beings hey.

Lisa,
bobbythebat1,

You publicly bicker with each other, over what is the 'proper' justification for being unfaithful to a spouse.

But neither of you have any comment, about the 8 yr old Yemen girl who was raped by her moslem 'husband' ???

Or about the 'rights' of women under ISLAM ???

Go & jump in the lake Yadda. Grin

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