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Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:12pm
 
April 4, 2011 - 9:09AM
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Premier Barry O'Farrell must rule out the introduction of hunting in national parks, NSW Opposition Leader John Robertson says, following a shake-up in the Department of Environment.

"We can't have a situation where bushwalkers are dodging bullets," Mr Robertson said in a statement on Monday.

The Opposition leader took aim at Mr O'Farrell for carving up the NSW Department of the Environment, Climate Change and Water and redirecting top issues to his office.

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Mr Robertson says the premier is pandering to the Shooters and Fishers Party, whose support he may need to pass legislation in the upper house, by dropping Catherine Cusack from his front bench.

"Catherine Cusack was the only thing standing between the Shooters party and their plans to introduce hunting in national parks and now the premier has shown her the door," Mr Robertson said.

Ms Cusack was environment spokeswoman when the coalition was in opposition but failed to secure the portfolio in government, despite Mr O'Farrell promising to install all his shadow frontbenchers in the corresponding ministries in government.

Less than two weeks before the March 26 election Ms Cusack angered the Shooters party by saying hunting would not be allowed in national parks and the party was losing relevance, Fairfax reported on Monday.

The Shooters party also wants a freeze on marine parks.

Maitland MP Robyn Parker has been given the environment portfolio, sparking criticism from Mr Robertson about Mr O'Farrell's intentions.

"Former Labor premier Bob Carr established over 300 national parks in NSW and every one of those parks is now at risk," he said.

"The premier needs to cease this attack on the environment, rule out hunting in national parks and put marine parks and responsibility for land clearing back where they belong."

Under the shake-up, the director-general of the Department of Environment, Climate Change and Water will report to the Department of Premier and Cabinet.

Responsibility for marine parks management and decisions about land clearing will be transferred to the Department of Primary Industries, Fairfax reported.

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Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 1:11pm
 
I personally don't think anyone should be playing with Guns except the Military.
That includes Police as well as Farmers and Hunters.
You need something shot like a feral Pig or a Bank Robber - call the Military.

A cop once said to me "Its bloody dangerous out there you fool!"
I said "I guess it explains why you are too scared to call for 'help' from the Specialist Military then?"
Knowing full well the USA Political (Law and Order) industry is the most power-mongering industry in the USA. It even 'exploits' Military action by its SWAT groups.

If any official Hunting actions are needed, ie: culling - then Farmers need only 'hire' Australian Military (or NZ military if the targets are really small).

Ban all fire-arms, even from Cops ...you will find that even the 'Gangstas' etc will drop 'their' guns pretty quickly at the sight of the Military coming down their street for an act of war.

In the mean time - the Australian Military are just sitting around doing nothing in this country and being paid for it, while SES are busy doing heaps of 'volunteer' work. The Australian Military are just waiting to lay the boot in from the rear of the pack when the USA gets into fights.

ONLY THE MILITARY SHOULD HAVE GUNS.
...its the one thing I only admired John Howard upon.
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Reply #2 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 9:26pm
 
The military are not specialists. They are the least well trained to handle those domestic situations. That's why they are the last resort.
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The military are not specialists. They are the least well trained to handle those domestic situations. That's why they are the last resort.

No wonder Australian Soldiers need the UK/USA to send them upon Mercenary missions overseas to earn a weeks wage.

The Bolivian Military doesn't serve Politics, it works 'with' Politics. It also has Soldiers patrolling all facets of Bolivian life. Westerners freak, but the Soldiers only take action if someone of Non-Bolivian Military starts playing with Military weapons like Guns. They don't care if you are holding five syringes of Heroine - thats Medical responsibility, or that you are swearing and cussing at people - thats Political responsibilty.

While another person was shot in the head at Glen Alpine last night. The question beckons: Where did that gun come from?

Many thugs, n crooks with Guns laugh at Police action, etc. But if Soldiers turned up due to an "Act of War", I'm sure they would drop their guns quick smart. But this won't happen because this is Australia - the wannabe retard version of the USA via the UK.
Its where anyone can have a gun, just like anyone can do drugs besides the Medical and taggers can do 'art' other than Artists, etc, etc.

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Reply #4 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 2:35pm
 
At the real risk of bringing this thread back on track and out of the bizarre wasteland into which it has descended, I will say that New Zealand seems to have no problem with hunting in national parks and other designated recreational areas. In fact hunters are permitted to use popular tramping tracks to access the areas where hunting is permitted.

Of course we must note that NZ has no native land mammals to shoot by accident and anything on four legs is fair game. Also they have a much more unified and homogeneous society largely without the ethnic tensions and rampant gun crime that plague Australia, hence a more relaxed and mature attitude to gun ownership.
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Reply #5 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:29pm
 
Have you ever been to NZ?
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Reply #6 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 8:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:29pm:
Have you ever been to NZ?


Frequently. I do a lot of bushwalking there.
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Reply #7 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 1:19pm
 
I go often to NZ too.
I also know that many Hunters are Hunters just to "unofficially" arm themselves.
Some reasons are prevention against gangs like Mongrel Mob and Black Power. (Don't blame them really.)
Some instances backfire like that INNOCENT woman who was shot recently by a Hunter ...by mistake of course.
And that Hunter from Aramoana who massacred 13 INNOCENT people.
Thankfully, the 'real' Military shot him and waited till he died before they called the Police in to give him a 'Life' sentence. (I applaud them on this)

Only the Military should have Guns. If you need something shot - call someone from the Military as I'm sure they would rather be hired to cull some animals or Ferals or Gangstas, than fly away on Mercenary Missions for Political agendas.

If you want to have a Gun/learn to use Firearms - then the Military should be solely responsible for such 'registration', education, etc.

...maybe one day, the 'Green' Military will get some balls and tell the Polititians "You're on your own." and start shooting Poachers and Gangstas who use Political loopholes.
The Animals of this planet need responsible Military protection. If animals need to be killed - let the Military and Conservationists (greenies too) take care of it.

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Reply #8 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 6:52pm
 
Jas are you in the CEC by any chance?
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Reply #9 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 10:11pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 1:11pm:
I personally don't think anyone should be playing with Guns except the Military.
That includes Police as well as Farmers and Hunters.
You need something shot like a feral Pig or a Bank Robber - call the Military.

A cop once said to me "Its bloody dangerous out there you fool!"
I said "I guess it explains why you are too scared to call for 'help' from the Specialist Military then?"
Knowing full well the USA Political (Law and Order) industry is the most power-mongering industry in the USA. It even 'exploits' Military action by its SWAT groups.

If any official Hunting actions are needed, ie: culling - then Farmers need only 'hire' Australian Military (or NZ military if the targets are really small).

Ban all fire-arms, even from Cops ...you will find that even the 'Gangstas' etc will drop 'their' guns pretty quickly at the sight of the Military coming down their street for an act of war.

In the mean time - the Australian Military are just sitting around doing nothing in this country and being paid for it, while SES are busy doing heaps of 'volunteer' work. The Australian Military are just waiting to lay the boot in from the rear of the pack when the USA gets into fights.

ONLY THE MILITARY SHOULD HAVE GUNS.
...its the one thing I only admired John Howard upon.


And how do you plan to stop criminals (you know, those people who DON'T obey the laws) from possessing guns???
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Reply #10 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 7:43am
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 11th, 2011 at 1:19pm:
I go often to NZ too.
I also know that many Hunters are Hunters just to "unofficially" arm themselves.
Some reasons are prevention against gangs like Mongrel Mob and Black Power. (Don't blame them really.)
Some instances backfire like that INNOCENT woman who was shot recently by a Hunter ...by mistake of course.
And that Hunter from Aramoana who massacred 13 INNOCENT people.
Thankfully, the 'real' Military shot him and waited till he died before they called the Police in to give him a 'Life' sentence. (I applaud them on this)

Only the Military should have Guns. If you need something shot - call someone from the Military as I'm sure they would rather be hired to cull some animals or Ferals or Gangstas, than fly away on Mercenary Missions for Political agendas.

If you want to have a Gun/learn to use Firearms - then the Military should be solely responsible for such 'registration', education, etc.

...maybe one day, the 'Green' Military will get some balls and tell the Polititians "You're on your own." and start shooting Poachers and Gangstas who use Political loopholes.
The Animals of this planet need responsible Military protection. If animals need to be killed - let the Military and Conservationists (greenies too) take care of it.



Congratulations, you are the first person I ever heard express a desire to live under martial law while the rest of the world seems to be doing their damnedest to get away from it.
Maybe I should get out more.  Wink
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Reply #11 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 8:12am
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 1:11pm:
I personally don't think anyone should be playing with Guns except the Military.
That includes Police as well as Farmers and Hunters.
You need something shot like a feral Pig or a Bank Robber - call the Military.

A cop once said to me "Its bloody dangerous out there you fool!"
I said "I guess it explains why you are too scared to call for 'help' from the Specialist Military then?"
Knowing full well the USA Political (Law and Order) industry is the most power-mongering industry in the USA. It even 'exploits' Military action by its SWAT groups.

If any official Hunting actions are needed, ie: culling - then Farmers need only 'hire' Australian Military (or NZ military if the targets are really small).

Ban all fire-arms, even from Cops ...you will find that even the 'Gangstas' etc will drop 'their' guns pretty quickly at the sight of the Military coming down their street for an act of war.

In the mean time - the Australian Military are just sitting around doing nothing in this country and being paid for it, while SES are busy doing heaps of 'volunteer' work. The Australian Military are just waiting to lay the boot in from the rear of the pack when the USA gets into fights.

ONLY THE MILITARY SHOULD HAVE GUNS.
...its the one thing I only admired John Howard upon.



What a well thought out and cogent argument; pls tell me this was all in jest and you just couldn't find a sarcasm emoticon.  Angry

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Reply #12 - Apr 20th, 2011 at 8:23pm
 
Well I hope you guys don't have some drugged out, crime orientated, loser, gangsta, biker, whatever shoot you or your loved ones because he just happened to be able to have a gun
...and then he gets off on mental illness because the pot made him a schizo. (Because other people can do drugs besides just the Medical Industry eh Wink)

Who ya gonna call? GhostBusters Grin

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Reply #13 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 3:16pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 20th, 2011 at 8:23pm:
Well I hope you guys don't have some drugged out, crime orientated, loser, gangsta, biker, whatever shoot you or your loved ones because he just happened to be able to have a gun
...and then he gets off on mental illness because the pot made him a schizo. (Because other people can do drugs besides just the Medical Industry eh Wink)

Who ya gonna call? GhostBusters Grin



That's why it's a good idea for the police to have guns.....
Because the 'drugged out, crime orientated, loser, gangsta, biker, whatever' will STILL be able to get guns, even if you ban possession for everyone but the army.....
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Reply #14 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 3:30pm
 
Well I could make a makeshift 'gun' out of a piece of pipe and a rubber glove.  Just think of the havoc I could wreak with this awesome piece of weaponry before the army arrives from across town.
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