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Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott. (Read 11226 times)
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #45 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:02pm
 
Sappho wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:29am:
Verge wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:23am:
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I wonder how much fruit pickers get paid.  Now lets see, how long to fill a bin I wonder.   Sad 


I was making a thousand a week doing it.

Maybe if you werent so bloody lazy and had a crack you might actually one - have a job, and two - a job that good money could be made.


His attitude is not uncommon amongst the long term unemployed. they are very picky about the kinds of jobs they will take... and even then, very rarely make the effort to look for work themselves expecting the JSAPs to spoon feed them into a job.


the JSAP's do well out of it don't they. It's a big industry making billions out of the unemployed. That's the job to have isn't it Wink Why bother picking fruit when you can get easy money providing non existent jobs to the unemployed Wink
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #46 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:05pm
 
My sister went fruit picking for a few months in Queensland.

She came back to England without a cent to her name and in fact if I recall right my dad whacked about $4k in her bank account before she left too.

Seemed a good life but not sure it was a money tree!
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #47 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:12pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:05pm:
My sister went fruit picking for a few months in Queensland.

She came back to England without a cent to her name and in fact if I recall right my dad whacked about $4k in her bank account before she left too.

Seemed a good life but not sure it was a money tree!


and she might have ended up with a dose of skin cancer if she was exposed to the sun too much Sad I wouldn't do it for that reason.

Better to be job a provider or should I say job parasite and earn the big easy bucks $$$$$$$
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #48 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:14pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:12pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:05pm:
My sister went fruit picking for a few months in Queensland.

She came back to England without a cent to her name and in fact if I recall right my dad whacked about $4k in her bank account before she left too.

Seemed a good life but not sure it was a money tree!


and she might have ended up with a dose of skin cancer if she was exposed to the sun too much Sad I wouldn't do it for that reason.

Better to be job a provider or should I say job parasite and earn the big easy bucks $$$$$$$


A bit of outdoor work never hurt anyone.

I find it interesting you think Kevin Rudd is a parasite.
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #49 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:15pm
 
Personally, I'd sooner starve than go fruit-picking. At my age, neither my back
nor my knees would be 'up to it'.

Both my brothers, and several friends have done this work at various times.

NONE of them made any money, and they are ALL 'good workers'.


A young person, I agree, shouldn't be picking and choosing when it comes to jobs.

BUT, a mature-aged unemployed person has EARNED that RIGHT. And, make no
mistake, it IS a right. Don't agree? Too bad.
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #50 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:21pm
 
Kat wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Personally, I'd sooner starve than go fruit-picking. At my age, neither my back
nor my knees would be 'up to it'.

Both my brothers, and several friends have done this work at various times.

NONE of them made any money, and they are ALL 'good workers'.


A young person, I agree, shouldn't be picking and choosing when it comes to jobs.

BUT, a mature-aged unemployed person has EARNED that RIGHT. And, make no
mistake, it IS a right. Don't agree? Too bad.



Age has nothing to do with it.

Skills and marketability give you the right to pick and choose jobs.

Between summers at university, I used to go to the USA and do any old job. Working in amusement parks, lifeguarding waterparks etc - all for about $8 per hour.

Since qualifying from university, I have cherry picked every job I have had.
Why? Because I have the skills that has earned me that right.

So I started choosing from 22 years of age.

The old fella who cuts my lawn is in his 60s he doesn't pick or choose anything.

It's supply and demand market economics mate. Age is irrelevant - unless of course you talk of experience. I am too young to be a CFO of a multi-national. Not because of age but experience.
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #51 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:21pm
 
Around here you'd be hard pressed to earn $1000 before tax a week picking. Sure it happens, but its rare for them to get the hours needed for that in a single week.

Most of the farms here are large company owned ones so they basically work fixed hours. Usually about 9 working hours a day for pickers.
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #52 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:42pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Personally, I'd sooner starve than go fruit-picking. At my age, neither my back
nor my knees would be 'up to it'.

Both my brothers, and several friends have done this work at various times.

NONE of them made any money, and they are ALL 'good workers'.


A young person, I agree, shouldn't be picking and choosing when it comes to jobs.

BUT, a mature-aged unemployed person has EARNED that RIGHT. And, make no
mistake, it IS a right. Don't agree? Too bad.



Age has nothing to do with it.

Skills and marketability give you the right to pick and choose jobs.

Between summers at university, I used to go to the USA and do any old job. Working in amusement parks, lifeguarding waterparks etc - all for about $8 per hour.

Since qualifying from university, I have cherry picked every job I have had.
Why? Because I have the skills that has earned me that right.

So I started choosing from 22 years of age.

The old fella who cuts my lawn is in his 60s he doesn't pick or choose anything.

It's supply and demand market economics mate. Age is irrelevant - unless of course you talk of experience. I am too young to be a CFO of a multi-national. Not because of age but experience.




Age has everything to do with it, as has experience.
I have a broad range of experience, and also have
qualifications, and I WILL cherry-pick in order to get
work where I can use those skills and experience.

One thing I will NOT do, is menial work, customer-service jobs,
or 'start at the bottom' jobs, I did all that 30+ years ago, now it
is MY RIGHT to CHOOSE my work.

There's usually no shortage of work for a computer-tech
or a house-painter. I do both. I also do volunteer work.

Or do you think that only those with uni quals should have
the right to choose their job?
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #53 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:45pm
 
Verge wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:14pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:12pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:05pm:
My sister went fruit picking for a few months in Queensland.

She came back to England without a cent to her name and in fact if I recall right my dad whacked about $4k in her bank account before she left too.

Seemed a good life but not sure it was a money tree!


and she might have ended up with a dose of skin cancer if she was exposed to the sun too much Sad I wouldn't do it for that reason.

Better to be job a provider or should I say job parasite and earn the big easy bucks $$$$$$$


A bit of outdoor work never hurt anyone.

I find it interesting you think Kevin Rudd is a parasite.


10 minutes a day is the recommended dose of full sunlight. Even wearing a hat won't protect you as the reflected light gets you Sad

And I believe it's Dudd's wife that has profited out of the unemployed and I don't think much of Dudd. He is just another used car salesman come politician.
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #54 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:48pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Personally, I'd sooner starve than go fruit-picking. At my age, neither my back
nor my knees would be 'up to it'.

Both my brothers, and several friends have done this work at various times.

NONE of them made any money, and they are ALL 'good workers'.


A young person, I agree, shouldn't be picking and choosing when it comes to jobs.

BUT, a mature-aged unemployed person has EARNED that RIGHT. And, make no
mistake, it IS a right. Don't agree? Too bad.



Age has nothing to do with it.

Skills and marketability give you the right to pick and choose jobs.

Between summers at university, I used to go to the USA and do any old job. Working in amusement parks, lifeguarding waterparks etc - all for about $8 per hour.

Since qualifying from university, I have cherry picked every job I have had.
Why? Because I have the skills that has earned me that right.

So I started choosing from 22 years of age.

The old fella who cuts my lawn is in his 60s he doesn't pick or choose anything.

It's supply and demand market economics mate. Age is irrelevant - unless of course you talk of experience. I am too young to be a CFO of a multi-national. Not because of age but experience.


I thought you said that you were VP of one of the top 10 companies in the world ??
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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #55 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 1:47pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:48pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:21pm:
Kat wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:15pm:
Personally, I'd sooner starve than go fruit-picking. At my age, neither my back
nor my knees would be 'up to it'.

Both my brothers, and several friends have done this work at various times.

NONE of them made any money, and they are ALL 'good workers'.


A young person, I agree, shouldn't be picking and choosing when it comes to jobs.

BUT, a mature-aged unemployed person has EARNED that RIGHT. And, make no
mistake, it IS a right. Don't agree? Too bad.



Age has nothing to do with it.

Skills and marketability give you the right to pick and choose jobs.

Between summers at university, I used to go to the USA and do any old job. Working in amusement parks, lifeguarding waterparks etc - all for about $8 per hour.

Since qualifying from university, I have cherry picked every job I have had.
Why? Because I have the skills that has earned me that right.

So I started choosing from 22 years of age.

The old fella who cuts my lawn is in his 60s he doesn't pick or choose anything.

It's supply and demand market economics mate. Age is irrelevant - unless of course you talk of experience. I am too young to be a CFO of a multi-national. Not because of age but experience.


I thought you said that you were VP of one of the top 10 companies in the world ??


I am now yeah but mate in oil and gas companies VP is simply a level of management.
Anyone on level 22 and above are Vice President. Then you have Presidents (regional heads), then Executive Vice Presidents etc

There's at least 50 VP's west of Mississippi in our region alone.

It's just a level of management.

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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #56 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 1:49pm
 
Top 10 as in revenue by the way.

We turn over the billions of dollars per year worldwide.

Not top 10 in other things.

I think we failed to make the top 50 in employee satisfaction! LOL
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Reply #57 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 2:39pm
 
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FOREIGN fruit pickers are fed up at the living and working conditions they cop in the Bundaberg region, likening it to “slavery”.   Sad

Seven backpackers have come forward with a list of claims to the NewsMail, including:

    * paying more up front than they were earning in picking wages;
    * being paid less than the hours they were entitled to;
    * being refused water by work supervisors, who constantly shouted at and abused them;
    * being forced to lie on an incident report after a machinery accident.

The travellers, who were all staying at East Bundaberg Backpackers before moving to a new hostel, were working on a tomato farm owned by SP Exports, but were employed by a work subcontractor called “Max”, who would not reveal his surname.

SP Exports managing director Andrew Philip has promised to investigate the allegations further, but East Bundaberg Backpackers owner Cali Posun said she operated similarly to most hostels in town.

The tourists had to pay $161 a week for a 16-person dorm room and $42 for bus travel to and from the farm, in return for guaranteed work.

But they claim they are now financially worse off than when they arrived in Bundaberg.

Estonian traveller Rein Vahur said he felt like a “slave” while staying at the hostel and working on a Childers tomato farm.

“They tell us they can guarantee at least three days of work, but sometimes that is only two hours,” Mr Vahur said.

“And you never get your right pay. You always need to fight to get your money.”   Angry

Fellow Estonian Silver Raudsepp said he was fed up with constant threats from supervisors.

“We get screamed at all day like we are animals,” he said.

“They just keep yelling constantly saying, ‘work faster’, ‘pick harder’, ‘open the bushes’, ‘use two hands’. They always say they will sack us if we don’t hurry up.”   Angry

Mr Raudsepp said he knew of five backpackers who were fired because they pestered their supervisor for water after five hours without it.   Shocked

Italian backpacker Naomi Tutone claimed one particular day she and another female traveller were sitting on a picking tractor, with seats on two mechanical arms, when a supervisor hit a button that brought the arms up suddenly.

The women were thrown off the seats, falling about three metres to the ground.

“The other girl called the insurance people and she was fired and made to leave the hostel,” Ms Tutone said.

“A man came to me and asked me to fill out a report and said to me: ‘If you say nobody said to you about the emergency button, there will be big trouble.’

“I was afraid to lose work, so I wrote, ‘Yes, the supervisor showed me the button’. But I was in panic.”   Sad

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Re: Why Dont You Go Fruit Picking Mr Abbott.
Reply #58 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 3:25pm
 
Why dont you go fruit picking imcrook, or are you to good to do that?
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Reply #59 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 3:26pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 12:02pm:
Sappho wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:29am:
Verge wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:23am:
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I wonder how much fruit pickers get paid.  Now lets see, how long to fill a bin I wonder.   Sad  


I was making a thousand a week doing it.

Maybe if you werent so bloody lazy and had a crack you might actually one - have a job, and two - a job that good money could be made.


His attitude is not uncommon amongst the long term unemployed. they are very picky about the kinds of jobs they will take... and even then, very rarely make the effort to look for work themselves expecting the JSAPs to spoon feed them into a job.


the JSAP's do well out of it don't they. It's a big industry making billions out of the unemployed. That's the job to have isn't it Wink Why bother picking fruit when you can get easy money providing non existent jobs to the unemployed Wink


Better to be a fruit picker than to cope with the personal abuse that JSAP employees get from customers.  Cool

Can you imagine having to deal with the imcrookedonit types arguing the toss over everything?  Cry
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