freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 6:44pm:


What you say is true and in theory it's good and you might achieve success eventually if you're prepared to spend the next 30 years being reviled - as in the case of the Greens - and none of their policies were as brutal as your whaling policy. I haven't seen too many people from these forums agree with you on that issue.

mantra wrote on Mar 16^th, 2011 at 6:54am:


30 Years? Two of our most significant goals have already been achieved - the carbon tax and the removal of the Californian ban on roo meat. At this rate we won't have any policy left soon. The Kangaroo debate had some uncanny parallels with the whaling debate. You could have interchanged whales and roos in many cases and not known the difference.

You keep confusing getting elected with being successful. Getting elected is a last resort. The major parties won't let that happen and I will give them all the warning they need to avoid it. Becoming a professional politician and spending my life sucking up to idiots is not one of my goals in life.

Is the Sustainability Party of Australia the same as the Sustainable Population Party?

I have a bi-election coming up and am thus receiving quite a bit of literature.  Mainly from Mal,  but I notice the SPP candidate is being promoted by Dick Smith and he looks quite impressive.

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2011 at 6:44pm:


You have put heaps of effort into it, no, not just effort, thought as well. For that alone well done.

I think this statement is interesting, it is suggestive that political (perhaps even constitutional) reform would (or perhaps should) be more clearly on the agenda.

Some good suggestions have been made regarding making it more "readable" so I wouldn't add anything to that. I might just suggest adding a clear statement about political reform, but only because the statement above seems to me to be alluding to that end.

I actually would also consider that our largely disinterested and uninformed public have no motivation to change because they are chained to a self serving political system that mostly benefits inept and disreputable politicians and a minority of their sycophants.... Hence another push for systemic change.

*Test*

And Jesus Christ. Do we really need another party for greenies? What is the point of this party? The fact that your party exists annoys the hell out of me.

What you are is an elitist pretending to be do-gooder so that you can use climate change to keep energy prices as high as possible. You are an enemy of the poor and working class and it is utterly disgusting that you pretend to be do-gooder when you are quite obviously a knowing do-badder.

edit - You want us to lessen our carbon footprint do you mate? %$% off.

fascinating