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The coming global war with global islamisticism? (Read 3120 times)
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Re: The coming global war with global islamisticism?
Reply #15 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 2:59pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 29th, 2011 at 2:22pm:
The German ones didn't usually result in the death of the pilot, but when you're doing something like that on a restricted budget with limited resources it doesn't take a massive lightbulb moment to realise that a suicidal pilot is the way to go.

I believe the japanese had a suicide anti tank device during WW2 - pretty much just a lump of explosives on a stick that was held against the side of a tank and exploded. I think allied troops called it the "lunge grenade".


The Germans DID in fact have a 'suicide' squadron in WW2..called the 'Leonidas Squadron'...

"The Leonidas Squadron, formally known as 5th Staffel of Kampfgeschwader 200 was a unit which was originally formed to fly the Fieseler Fi 103R (Reichenberg), a manned version of the V-1 flying bomb that was never used in combat because Werner Baumbach, the commander of KG 200, and his superiors considered it an unnecessary waste of life and resources, and preferred to use the Mistel bomb instead. However, from 17 April until 20 April 1945 (during the Battle of Berlin) thirty-five pilots of the Leonidas Squadron flew suicide sorties against Soviet bridges over the river Oder with little noticeable effect."

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Reply #16 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 3:42pm
 
I did mean that the pilots usually survived in relation to mistel and other odd "flying bomb" operations - not in relation to that rather out of character and desperate suicide operation during the dying days of the war.
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Reply #17 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 4:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2011 at 9:18am:
Who invented the use of aeroplanes as bombs to increase the civilian casualties?

Freediver are you referring to 9/11?
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Reply #18 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 4:44pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 29th, 2011 at 3:42pm:
I did mean that the pilots usually survived in relation to mistel and other odd "flying bomb" operations - not in relation to that rather out of character and desperate suicide operation during the dying days of the war.



Ok I see what you mean...the 'suicide' squadron wasn't too popular with the German high command... but it DID, in fact, exist..
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Reply #19 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 4:44pm
 
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Freediver are you referring to 9/11?


It seems he was, but I'm guessing he now realises the folly of his mistake.

Freediver doesn't know much about the world beyond what he reads from others. Hence his complete ignorance about events like the hijacking of flight 705 by an American Christian to fly into a populated Federal Express building in 1994 (ie. 7 years before 9/11).
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Reply #20 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 4:49pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 29th, 2011 at 4:44pm:
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Freediver are you referring to 9/11?


It seems he was, but I'm guessing he now realises the folly of his mistake.

Freediver doesn't know much about the world beyond what he reads from others. Hence his complete ignorance about events like the hijacking of flight 705 by an American Christian to fly into a populated Federal Express building in 1994 (ie. 7 years before 9/11).


Yeah but he ( Calloway) didn't actually manage to carry out the hijacking..
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Reply #21 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 5:04pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 29th, 2011 at 4:44pm:
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Freediver are you referring to 9/11?


It seems he was, but I'm guessing he now realises the folly of his mistake.

Freediver doesn't know much about the world beyond what he reads from others. Hence his complete ignorance about events like the hijacking of flight 705 by an American Christian to fly into a populated Federal Express building in 1994 (ie. 7 years before 9/11).




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Reply #22 - Jan 29th, 2011 at 6:34pm
 
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Freediver doesn't know much about the world beyond what he reads from others. Hence his complete ignorance about events like the hijacking of flight 705 by an American Christian to fly into a populated Federal Express building in 1994 (ie. 7 years before 9/11).


So what. The events are not connected, and have no bearing on each other. Just another means of discussion derailment designed to take the scrutiny off Islam by pointing to someone else who has done something bad. Just another  pointless and childish 'tu quoque' argument, from Islam, the champions of thought terminating cliches and sophistry.

Uprisings in Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Yemen, Syria, Egypt and now Jordan, no coincidence - the hand of the Muslim Brotherhood is behind this.

My prediction which I think I published on here a few years ago was that Islam will unite under sharia into something resembling the European Union and then there will be war against the infidels.





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Suicide Bomber Killed by "Happy New Year" Text Message
Reply #23 - Jan 30th, 2011 at 8:31am
 
It is getting harder and harder to find suicide bombers. All the really good ones are gone.

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/47625.php

An alleged Russian suicide bomber who was killed when her bomb detonated too early may have been killed when a "Happy New Year" text message was sent to the mobile phone that was to be used to trigger the bomb.

The unnamed woman, believed to be a "Black Widow" bomber was planning to detonate a suicide vest on a busy square near Red Square on New Year's Eve. However, the text message from the phone network triggered the blast too early - she was the only person killed in the subsequent explosion. Some networks have taken to sending corporate messages on New Years Eve earlier in the evening to avoid additional load at midnight, when the networks already struggle to cope with the flood of greetings sent by their subscribers.

Although the explosive is wrapped around the suicide bomber, the decision when to detonate it is reportedly taken by an onlooker who can see the wider area and work out when the bomber is placed to cause the most deaths. The onlooker detonates it by sending a text message to a phone wired into the suicide vest.

The phones are usually kept switched off until the very last minute but in this case, Russian security sources told The Telegraph newspaper that they believe the terrorists were careless.
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Reply #24 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:26am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2011 at 8:31am:
It is getting harder and harder to find suicide bombers. All the really good ones are gone.

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/47625.php

An alleged Russian suicide bomber who was killed when her bomb detonated too early may have been killed when a "Happy New Year" text message was sent to the mobile phone that was to be used to trigger the bomb.

The unnamed woman, believed to be a "Black Widow" bomber was planning to detonate a suicide vest on a busy square near Red Square on New Year's Eve. However, the text message from the phone network triggered the blast too early - she was the only person killed in the subsequent explosion. Some networks have taken to sending corporate messages on New Years Eve earlier in the evening to avoid additional load at midnight, when the networks already struggle to cope with the flood of greetings sent by their subscribers.

Although the explosive is wrapped around the suicide bomber, the decision when to detonate it is reportedly taken by an onlooker who can see the wider area and work out when the bomber is placed to cause the most deaths. The onlooker detonates it by sending a text message to a phone wired into the suicide vest.

The phones are usually kept switched off until the very last minute but in this case, Russian security sources told The Telegraph newspaper that they believe the terrorists were careless.






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Reply #25 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:23pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 29th, 2011 at 11:29am:
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Who invented the use of aeroplanes as bombs to increase the civilian casualties?


I'm not sure who the first was, but I know it's not who you think it was.



It was the Fakeastinians that started to raise aircraft hi-jacking to a new level.
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Reply #26 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:44pm
 

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Hence his complete ignorance about events like the hijacking of flight 705 by an American Christian to fly into a populated Federal Express building in 1994 (ie. 7 years before 9/11).



Your comment of 'American Christian' is misleading and wrong. There is no mention of Calloway's religion in the link. How do you know Calloway wasn't a muslim?
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Reply #27 - Feb 4th, 2011 at 3:20am
 
Islamists would never win a global war (or any war)...they talk too much, or end the conversation in default by suicide bombing.
Weird. Do they like gambling as well? Great combination.l
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