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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 40952 Gender:	Re: GILLARDS FLOOD LEVY Reply #195 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 9:09am Flood levy, earthquake fee, tsumani levy, fire extra, ETS (tax on air), heatwave levy. fat assed judas and leftards are high spending and high taxing. $100 B frittered in 4 years. the smacking buggerers can smacking get smacking buggered
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nichy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1812 Gender:	Re: GILLARDS FLOOD LEVY Reply #196 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 10:04am Interesting read from Chris Berg. Drowning in Gillard's flood levy spin January 30, 2011 http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/drowning-in-gillards-flood-levy-spin-20110129-1a8yr.html
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Reply #197 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 10:29am

Prevailing wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 7:23am:

The Greens, Gillard and all of their super rich racist corporate crony's are concerned at the rise in litigation and class actions against them. Get used to it - thats our system in action you are trying to dismantle. The people are just suing back what those globalist racist grubs have stolen. Cool

well if you say so!

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 40952 Gender:	Re: GILLARDS FLOOD LEVY Reply #198 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 10:38am Oh, and now a cyclone tax. What about a cloudy day fee?
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Reply #199 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 11:02am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 9:09am:

Flood levy, earthquake fee, tsumani levy, fire extra, ETS (tax on air), heatwave levy.

fat assed judas and leftards are high spending and high taxing.
$100 B frittered in 4 years.
the smacking buggerers can smacking get smacking buggered

Hey, you forgot the words “wasteful”, “incompetent”,&“negligent” .
Now , what about some criticisms of the Abbott Opposition ?
What (they the Coalition) offered very little ( to be criticise ) LOL.
I know. They are still shockingly policy-lite in nearly every area.

When forced to bring something to the table they came across as economic illiterates, so little indetail, that in the main you can not criticise them

What's the saying along the lines of only those that are actually doing something get criticisied. Grin

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vegitamite Ex Member	Re: GILLARDS FLOOD LEVY Reply #200 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 11:06am ...with the flood levy - and ofcourse other Rudd/Gillard policies- the decision to de-politicise government advertising has had a major effect on the government’s standing and explaining of them..
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Reply #201 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 11:54am

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 9:09am:

Flood levy, earthquake fee, tsumani levy, fire extra, ETS (tax on air), heatwave levy.

fat assed judas and leftards are high spending and high taxing.
$100 B frittered in 4 years.
the smacking buggerers can smacking get smacking buggered

Hey, you forgot the words “wasteful”, “incompetent”,&“negligent” .
Now , what about some criticisms of the Abbott Opposition ?
What (they the Coalition) offered very little ( to be criticise ) LOL.
I know. They are still shockingly policy-lite in nearly every area.

When forced to bring something to the table they came across as economic illiterates, so little indetail, that in the main you can not criticise them

What's the saying along the lines of only those that are actually doing something get criticisied. Grin

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veg they did show their hand at the election... NO CLIMATE TAX... and she stole it..and guess what we are getting ?????....

A GREAT BIG NEW TAX.. its called CLIMATE TAX

ok so Abbotts lite on policy and that worries you...

but the incompetent.wastefull negligent mob you are ok with...laugh a minute veg.

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THE ASSASSIN HAS PLANS ALREADY FOR THE 1.5.BILLION SHE WILL COLLECT IN A LEVY..OOPSsorry about that..

cant help but think she hasnt a clue.she doesnt even look convincing when she behind the mike..I cringe I really do. and then i worry..

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Reply #202 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 12:16pm

cods wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 10:29am:

Prevailing wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 7:23am:

The Greens, Gillard and all of their super rich racist corporate crony's are concerned at the rise in litigation and class actions against them. Get used to it - thats our system in action you are trying to dismantle. The people are just suing back what those globalist racist grubs have stolen. Cool

well if you say so!

So tell me - the Greens and the Labor Party who are all Nazis and Eugenecist racists...tell me why they accuse homeless, elderly and disabled Australians of racism, anti-semitism and guilt of the holocaust by virtue of their association with the White race when all of these things - the holocaust and racism were perpetrated on poor, elderly and disabled Australians by evil socialist themselves? Blame the victim eh? The fact is by their deeds Gillard and her Government and the Greens show themselves to be Hitlers disciples. Cool

http://www.covershut.com/cd_covers/Kill-The-Poor-2006-Cd-Cover-1552.jpg

Cool

Gillard sees legal obligations for the Welfare and compassion of some of some

Cool

But strangely not others

Cool

Julia Gillard - old time labor white supremacist Fabian socialist.

Cool

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Reply #203 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 1:40pm

FRED. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

Levy to help pay for flood recovery
Flood victims and low-income earners will be exempt from a one-off levy to help meet the $5 billion cost of paying for this summer's devastating floods, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has confirmed.

Speaking at the National Press Club this lunchtime, Ms Gillard said said a levy of 0.5 per cent would be applied from July 1 on taxable income between $50,001 and $100,000, and 1 per cent on income above $100,000.

Anyone earning under $50,000 a year will be exempt, as will those receiving emergency

The levy will allow the Gillard government to maintain it's policy agenda that has been approved already.....Cutting this spending as to not impose a levy and then register a surplus in 2012 - 13 This seams rather self serving and impractical.....but is it???

The Rudd and Gillard governments have fought tooth and nail to implement its policy agenda against the back drop of the GFC.....an opposition focused on disruption and obstruction.....a hostile senate and fickle independents!!!

We also have the perception that a surplus is an indication of a strong economy and an opposition that will ignore truth and practicality to condemn the Gillard government for personal political gain if it fails to deliver the promised surplus.....Julia Gillard is caught between a rock and a hard place as Tony Abbott has now found his wedge to divide the nation no matter which way the Gillard government decides to go!!!

Julia Gillard must now make her stand and stick with the levy to maintain the hard fought policy agenda of the Rudd and Gillard governments.....There can be no more back downs because of opinion polls and politicians with no back bone worrying about there own pathetic careers above the interests of the nation!!!

Labor should impose the levy.....keep it's policies........Introduce a mining tax.....go to the next election with an ETS and register a surplus in 2012 - 13.....Once Labor has laid out it's policy agenda Abbott must try to convince the public he has better policy alternatives and cost them accordingly.....This is were he fails.....he has no policies and his front bench cannot count!!!

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: GILLARDS FLOOD LEVY Reply #204 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 1:47pm Why is it though Phil that the answer to the problem is always to hit people who earn over $100,000 and not everyone? Why is it ok for those people to find room in their budget but its not ok for others? That's all I ask - a level playing field no?
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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: GILLARDS FLOOD LEVY Reply #205 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 1:58pm ""If God had tried to build the earth in these modern times, he'd still be waiting for the 'environmental impact statement'" - Ronald Reagan" Wouldn't God just give himself approval?
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Reply #206 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 2:40pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 1:47pm:

Why is it though Phil that the answer to the problem is always to hit people who earn over $100,000 and not everyone?

Why is it ok for those people to find room in their budget but its not ok for others?

That's all I ask - a level playing field no?

Ala the GST.....A policy that hit low income earners the hardest!!!

You fail to see the politics behind the policy Andre.....Howard gave high end tax cuts to appease his voter base and shore up electoral support.....Gillard is avoiding adding financial pressure to low income earners who are already reeling under increased costs of utilities and food.....also to appeal to her voter base and shore up political support as well as fund infrastructure rebuilding whilst keeping her policy agenda on track!!!

It is not rocket science Andre.....the rich have disposable income that is supplemented by the taxpayer.....it is only common sense to claw some of this back in times of need......something Howard did despite swimming in cash.....All politicians are self serving and do what is best for the party first.....supporters second and nation a distant third.....there is nothing unique in what Gillard is doing Andre.....they all do it!!!

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Reply #207 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 2:44pm

I don't disagree that what Gillard is doing is politics.

I mean we are talking about the same woman who didn't deny that in the cabinet discussions she said pensioners shouldn't be a priority because they don't tend to vote Labor.

It's just wrong. You and I both know people on $100k per year are far from rich and are far from living it easy.

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Reply #208 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 3:13pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 1^st, 2011 at 2:44pm:

I don't disagree that what Gillard is doing is politics.

I mean we are talking about the same woman who didn't deny that in the cabinet discussions she said pensioners shouldn't be a priority because they don't tend to vote Labor.

It's just wrong. You and I both know people on $100k per year are far from rich and are far from living it easy.

Yes but they are hardly doing it tough either.....a few dollars a week for one year is nothing Andre.....I fail to see how Coalition supporters can pay the levies Howard imposed without complaining yet squeal poverty at a flood levy that was imposed because of a natural disaster not ideologically driven like the levies Howard imposed....I fail to see a valid argument as to why this levy is not affordable and necessary in the current circumstances!!!

Labor deserves to be able to implement its policy agenda and impose a levy if this is what is required to keep it’s election promises…..let the voters decide if they accept it was necessary or not when the budget is back in surplus and the economy is booming again!!!

People will soon forget there ever was a levy once the Coalition runs out of oxygen on the issue…remember Kyoto and the warnings about multi million dollar fines……remember the $100 billion debt that was going to cripple our grand children in debt….Remember the flood of compensation claims that never eventuated when Kevin Rudd said sorry to the stolen generation…..Remember the fear and division caused by the threat of terrorism that the Howard Government kept alive in the minds of all Australians….all forgotten Andre…..Cry wolf often enough and people switch off???

Abbott may well have to confront a successful Gillard Government at the next election…..He needs more than cheap slogans and bad manners….he must provide policies and costing…..Something that he has so far failed to do…..the electorate will be looking very closely at Abbott’s policies and how they are costed…..He must provide an alternative and stop puffing out his chest about every issue…..bring on the next election and let the voters decide!!!

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Reply #209 - Feb 1^st, 2011 at 3:27pm

Asking people to do something that you are not prepared to do yourself is hypocrisy.

Asking people to find 1% in their budget when the Government is not prepared to find 0.5% in their budget is wrong.

A simple delay in non-essential budget spend in the Government will cover this.

The problem is Labor are reverting to type -

1) Tax the "rich" and pay that way.

It is not acceptable to raise taxes, it is never acceptable when you are not willing to adjust Government spend.

I'm talking from an on-looker perspective here, I won't pay the tax, I don't have to pay the tax so it's irrelevant to me, but not to many.

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