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Sounds Like This Guys Got A Good Employer. (Read 1343 times)
imcrookonit
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Sounds Like This Guys Got A Good Employer.
Jan 13th, 2011 at 10:54am
 
Today my employer asked me to sign a 'flood' policy, where it states that I'm required to assist in the removal of stock/goods etc in the event of a flood. I'm also required to clean up afterwards.

It states that I can be contacted at any time, 24/7, public holiday etc, and that I don't get paid for any additional hours worked.   Shocked

It also states that I will be forced to take annual leave if I'm unable to work due to flooding.

Now I wouldn't mind helping in the event of a natural disaster, however I'm concerned that with Christmas coming, and rising rivers nearby, that I may be asked to leave my family on Christmas, or on the surrounding holidays to come and evacuate my employers stock. Not only that, but I won't get paid extra for it?   Angry

Does anyone know what the standard laws/procedures are in instances of natural disasters?

My employer is fully insured against flood – so can only assume that most costs related to flood (ie. hiring of removalists, cleaners etc) would be covered in their policy.

So is it fair for an employer to expect their staff to come in, unpaid, particularly on weekends/public holidays etc, to evacuate stock/contents, and then clean up after a natural disaster?    Shocked  Sad
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Reply #1 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:02am
 
No it is certainly not fair for an employer to expect that.  And guess what,  ITS ILLEGAL.   Sad
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Reply #2 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:12am
 
I wouldn't mind helping clean up if it was in my normal work hours and I got paid my normal rates of pay, otherwise noooooo waaaaay!
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Reply #3 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:19am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:12am:
I wouldn't mind helping clean up if it was in my normal work hours and I got paid my normal rates of pay, otherwise noooooo waaaaay!



pansi you dont think that story sounds just a wee bit far fetched?

I think its a crying shame that crook never seems to hear of any decent bosses in this country.. I am amazed anyone works to be honest
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Reply #4 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:29am
 
codswal wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:19am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:12am:
I wouldn't mind helping clean up if it was in my normal work hours and I got paid my normal rates of pay, otherwise noooooo waaaaay!



pansi you dont think that story sounds just a wee bit far fetched?

I think its a crying shame that crook never seems to hear of any decent bosses in this country.. I am amazed anyone works to be honest



Well cods, we won't hear about the good bosses on ozpolitic, just like we won't hear about the good Muslims, that's the nature of the forum.
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Reply #5 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 10:41pm
 
It was originally posted on another forum, on December 22nd last year....
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Reply #6 - Jan 14th, 2011 at 12:27am
 
These "Contracts" that Employers are 'bullying' workers into signing are spilling over from New Zealand where they are pretty rife.
As far as I know, these documents are not 'legal', but can be if you sign them.

I've had a few in my working years and I just scribble something other than my signature like "asswipe" and incorrectly mispell my 'printed' name ...they never catch on.
Also, if you refuse and they sack you - your chances for "unfair dismissal" compensation are pretty high.
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Reply #7 - Jan 14th, 2011 at 8:05am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:29am:
codswal wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:19am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 11:12am:
I wouldn't mind helping clean up if it was in my normal work hours and I got paid my normal rates of pay, otherwise noooooo waaaaay!



pansi you dont think that story sounds just a wee bit far fetched?

I think its a crying shame that crook never seems to hear of any decent bosses in this country.. I am amazed anyone works to be honest



Well cods, we won't hear about the good bosses on ozpolitic, just like we won't hear about the good Muslims, that's the nature of the forum.



Dead Muslims are boring anyway.
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Reply #8 - Jan 14th, 2011 at 9:15am
 
I was also dissapointed I saw the title and thought at last a story about a good employer.

Even I have heard the rumor that there are a few out there. Next time maybe.
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Reply #9 - Jan 14th, 2011 at 10:48am
 
I call BS on this.

Any employer knows you cant expect an employee to work unpaid overtime without paying them an overtime exemption.  If you were going to be cunning and try it, you definatley wouldnt put it in writing knowing full well its a breach of the rules.

I dont have a problem with telling employees they could be on call, but not a chance of getting away with using a natural disaster as an excuse not to pay.  

I also dont have a problem with annual leave being taken unless the employers insurance policy covers it. 

Notice, no link, no name, no employer name, nothing.
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Reply #10 - Jan 14th, 2011 at 12:06pm
 
true or not and it is almost certainly NOT true, any employee that refused to help out in a flood is a pretty stupid one. Insurance doesnt cover everything. and when business gets tight and some employees have to go, geuess who will be kept the longest? the ones who support intimes of trouble.

IMFULLOFIT understands absolutely nothing about the mutual responsibility relationships that exist in many workforces. If my office was about to be flooded Id expect my employees to help shift things out of the way. Id probably pay them for the time but anyone who refused to work unless that was guaranteed woudl probably not last long.
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Reply #11 - Jan 14th, 2011 at 6:12pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 14th, 2011 at 9:15am:
I was also dissapointed I saw the title and thought at last a story about a good employer.

Even I have heard the rumor that there are a few out there. Next time maybe.



Well, I've work for lots of 'good' employers, who payed above award wage, and who had great conditions...

As I see it, it's about 50/50 for employers..
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