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Reply #540 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 2:48am
 
this is deep Amadd.!!

"Facts and figures have never deciphered any real meaning...and that's why we have "democracy".

Democracy is to allow order to evolve from apparent disorder."

Yes indeed....  gotta hope it works...in the end. Smiley

Meantime, Democracy  is people, so its up to us to see a better life and future.
Life ...today.... gives us plenty of chaos.  Indeed - such is the state of the world, whether we , all mighty all powerful humans Roll Eyes realise it or NOT.!

Seems we're subject to the old Chinese curse...!!!

"May you live in interesting times."
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Reply #541 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 3:16am
 
Maybe it's deep? Maybe it's just logical that everybody cannot experience the same.

Democracy is about the culmination of all experiences, which should bring about a better judgement on the whole.

Hearsay is not experience, and should not be treated as such in an open and honest democracy...I reckon.



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Reply #542 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 3:41am
 
No ,truly everyone cannot 'experience' everything.

Sooner or later it comes down to trust and hope that good will prevails.

Haven't seen much of that.!! But I keep looking.!! Smiley
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Reply #543 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 4:15am
 
Yes we trust in something.
Be it the facts and figures before our eyes, be it the (Hearsay) God that they say exists, or be it the experience which is personally known.

It is always our right to choose, and we will uphold that right I hope for our one single vote.

Wherever your one single vote goes, don't be afraid to believe in it, because it is valuable.
So no need to keep looking Jalane, 'cause you already know it  Smiley




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Reply #544 - Apr 15th, 2012 at 6:34pm
 
Well said the pair of you. Smiley Smiley
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Reply #545 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 10:57pm
 
Well well surprise surprise NOT.

A whole jail in Vic - Barwon- run by drug crims, both cops and cons.  No surprise at all.

IF you are surprised... you are in blind denial.

ONE of the most important reasons that illegal drugs policy should be trashed and burned... is the absolute opportunity the law provides for corruption in our police and legal systems.
ITS A NO-BRAINER.!!!!!!

IT IS RIFE in all state police forces.  Deny it, and live life in a haze of ignorance.
Thats what you want.  No see evil, no hear evil, no speak evil.

AND it IS  EVIL that the powers that be retain this state of corruption because there are somebody(s)  who are clearly just rolling in the money.

You couldn't design a system with more potential for corruption.!!!

OOh OOOh -- but its wrong to condone drugs.!!!  what about our children???

Well fools, its your kids that are paying for your fkwt views.  You suffer,  BUT your children suffer more... at the hands of criminals,,, and sadly POLICE. !!!
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Reply #546 - Jul 11th, 2012 at 11:01pm
 
OK OK police aren't prison officers.  But have to say.... if a strictly regulated (supposedly) system such as a prison, is oh so vulnerable,  HOW MUCH MORE SO the Police service. 

Humans are fallible... and money buys a lot.  Drugs =Money financing crims= crims financing cops et al.

Disaster-----   but so accepted by our society.  WHY??

WHY????
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Reply #547 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 12:10am
 
I suppose sometimes you need to play within the rules which are governed by a tighter circle, and those that you are most likely to need to answer to, before, and for more grave consequences than the wider rule.

We live in an expectation that one shoe fits all. Most of us know that this is rarely the case, yet there seems to be a never ending quest to have us all governed by one particular set of rules...ie: religions.

I've heard people (mostly authorities) say for years upon years that "Ours is not perfect, but it's the best that we can do".
So if it was the best back then, is it any better now?

We are now subject to a totally different "Zeitgeist" than we were 20 yrs ago.
Have we gained appreciation for the sacrifices of freedom, or do we feel a little duped?

I'd like to say yes it's ok for cops (or prison officers) to use their judgement in particular circumstances, but they will invariably say "NO" to me and disrespect my ability to make judgement calls.

Those prison officers should be lumped in with the rest of them.








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Reply #548 - Sep 9th, 2012 at 8:43pm
 
and here we are again..............

IT IS NOW today, according to the 'News'..... RECOMMENDED..!! 

Smiley Smiley Smiley Roll Eyes Huh Huh Huh

WILL the stupid pollies listen THIS TIME.????
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Reply #549 - Sep 15th, 2012 at 9:40am
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 4:15am:
Yes we trust in something.
Be it the facts and figures before our eyes, be it the (Hearsay) God that they say exists, or be it the experience which is personally known.

It is always our right to choose, and we will uphold that right I hope for our one single vote.

Wherever your one single vote goes, don't be afraid to believe in it, because it is valuable.
So no need to keep looking Jalane, 'cause you already know it  Smiley


Yes, everyone has freedom of choice, and those whose judgement is not clouded, know what is right. The remainder believe that they know what is right.
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Reply #550 - Sep 15th, 2012 at 8:32pm
 
No...evryone doesn't have the freedom of choice.  That's my point.!! Huh
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Reply #551 - Sep 15th, 2012 at 10:15pm
 
So you don't smoke marijuana because you don't have freedom of choice?
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Reply #552 - Sep 15th, 2012 at 10:27pm
 
What I mean is ....there is no freedom....  sure, there is choice.....  but it doesn't come free.

Quite the opposite.

Smiley 'Freedom' surely means the ability and right to choose, without fear of retribution, ??
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Reply #553 - Sep 15th, 2012 at 11:07pm
 
Emma Peel wrote on Sep 15th, 2012 at 10:27pm:
What I mean is ....there is no freedom....  sure, there is choice.....  but it doesn't come free.

Quite the opposite.

Smiley 'Freedom' surely means the ability and right to choose, without fear of retribution, ?? 


That's an interesting one. I would have thought that all choices have their consequences - retributions or otherwise. Freedom to choose with no consequences sounds... well  "not of this world".  One man's freedom is another man's accountability. We're all like Coleridge's Ancient Mariner - free to shoot the albatross, but we always need to be prepared to wear the consequences.

What do you reckon, God?  Grin
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Reply #554 - Sep 15th, 2012 at 11:40pm
 
muso wrote on Sep 15th, 2012 at 11:07pm:
Emma Peel wrote on Sep 15th, 2012 at 10:27pm:
What I mean is ....there is no freedom....  sure, there is choice.....  but it doesn't come free.

Quite the opposite.

Smiley 'Freedom' surely means the ability and right to choose, without fear of retribution, ?? 


That's an interesting one. I would have thought that all choices have their consequences - retributions or otherwise.
Freedom to choose with no consequences sounds... well  "not of this world".  One man's freedom is another man's accountability.
We're all like Coleridge's Ancient Mariner - free to shoot the albatross, but we always need to be prepared to wear the consequences.

What do you reckon, God?  Grin


I didn't say, without consequences.  All actions have their consequences.
And...this idea of responsibility for one's own actions is lost on too many of our young today.
AND ON OUR POLLIES.... Parliamentary privilege..... ??

None of us are really clear about the consequences of our actions...we cannot be...because we cannot divine the future.
Some things ARE obvious tho.  If you drink litres of Bundy, you might expect to end up in hospital with alcoholic poisoning.  If you smoke heavily you may expect to develop cancer, if you eat like a glutton you might expect obesity, heart disease and early death.
These are all choices which have consequences.

In this matter..we can currently expect 'retribution and punishment'...by our own people.
Not a policy designed to promote social cohesiveness.
What is the diff? I ask you.

Again...the current status quo represents a 'divide and conquer' policy......  but to who's benefit?. All of us are wearing the 'consequences'. Sad




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