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Reply #15 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:26pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:21pm:

Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd's go soft policies have directly caused this latest incident of boat people dying whilst trying to get to Australia.
The death toll well over 200 in the last 3 years which is a massive difference to Howard's last 6 years under the Pacific Solution of zero.

No. The rough sea, the boast smashing on the rocks, which resulted in people falling into the sea and having water going into their lungs thus halting their ability to breath, "directly caused" this latest incident.

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths? Reply #16 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:34pm Congratulations Time, you get today's troll award.
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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths? Reply #17 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:44pm You've clearly been crushed by superior reasoning. Calling me a troll is a pitiful attempt to deflect.
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Reply #18 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:44pm

mellie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 3:02pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:41pm:

judas IS the PM, prior to that she was the 2IC.

She IS responsible for all their policies and implimentation thereof.

And lest we forget the implications....

It was only a matter of time before something terrible like this happened, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Roll Eyes

The Rudd government were warned and the Gillard government were warned, and what did they do? Julia Gillard made the honeypot even more enticing to encourage the illegal boat people to come to Australia.
Julia Gillard's soft approach and 'welcome signs' lured these people to their deaths.
There hadn't been any deaths in the six years prior to the Rudd government, now there's been over 200 deaths.

It was ALWAYS going to happen.
And it WILL happen again unless Julia Gillard changes her policy.
And Julia Gillard won't change her policy, so get used to seeing these deaths on the front page and on the news bulletins.

Julia Gillard's response has been 'let's not talk about it', and 'it's too soon".
So when shall we talk about it, when isn't it 'too soon'.
Most likely Julia Gillard wants people to forget this over Christmas and then maybe sometime when Parliament resumes in 2011.
Meanwhile more boats can arrive any day.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths? Reply #19 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:48pm If Gillard can be blamed for an occurrence 100 times removed from the event in question, then Bolt can equally be blamed for the deaths of innocents in Iraq.
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Reply #20 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:48pm

mellie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 3:13pm:

See by weakening boarder control, and making this avenue more appealing to those unprepared to follow standard/legal immigration protocol, she's effectively made a rod for hers and our backs.

She took the passive approach to boarder security, rendered it a free-for-all, and now as a result these people are dead.

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Clearly it's unsafe to immigrate this way, so why haven't we taken steps to stop it?

Julia Gillard will continue to do the wrong thing and Julia Gillard will continue to allow the illegal boat people to arrive, and Julia Gillard will continue to add to the honeypot luring illegal boat people to put their lives at risk.
The solution was made with the Stop The Boats Pacific Solution.
And it's only been since Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard took office that the problem has arisen.

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths? Reply #21 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 7:50pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 3:30pm: she also promised then training, gave them acommodation, food, clothing, health care, net access .......... may as well wave the "Come-on-over-we-are-tools" flag Which is what Julia Gillard has already set up with the family and no detention centre approach.
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths? Reply #22 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 8:02pm Julia Gillard would rather continue to allow people to put their lives at risk than admit that they were wrong and open up Nauru. In fact that should have been one of Julia Gillard's first responses to this tragedy.
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Reply #23 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 8:27pm

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:23pm:

[url]http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/showboat/[url]

...and the history of xenophobia is rich with creeps who dolled up their barbarism as a humane sympathy for the very people they sought to oppress.

Since our colonial inception, Australia has been a home for the wretched, the unfortunate and the brave, those courageous enough - or stupid enough - to find themselves leaving it all behind in the pursuit of a life on the other side.

Firstly, with about 140 different cultural/racial groups in Oz the correct word is xenomania.

Wouldn't it be odd if the perception that we are all racists is the result of bringing into our country people of other races. Aren't our social engineers fond of saying they have changed Australia? They may have made us more racist than we ever were.

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Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths?
Reply #24 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 8:47pm

salad in wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 8:27pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:23pm:

[url]http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/showboat/[url]

...and the history of xenophobia is rich with creeps who dolled up their barbarism as a humane sympathy for the very people they sought to oppress.

Since our colonial inception, Australia has been a home for the wretched, the unfortunate and the brave, those courageous enough - or stupid enough - to find themselves leaving it all behind in the pursuit of a life on the other side.

Firstly, with about 140 different cultural/racial groups in Oz the correct word is xenomania.

Wouldn't it be odd if the perception that we are all racists is the result of bringing into our country people of other races. Aren't our social engineers fond of saying they have changed Australia? They may have made us more racist than we ever were.

That`s more fruitcake than salad. Grin

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Re: Gillard to blame for boat deaths?
Reply #25 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 10:45pm

mellie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 3:02pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:41pm:

judas IS the PM, prior to that she was the 2IC.

She IS responsible for all their policies and implimentation thereof.

And lest we forget the implications....

It was only a matter of time before something terrible like this happened, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Roll Eyes

So 28 people die and you comment on it by putting a smiley face at the end of your sentence.

Wow. You are one sick puppy.

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Question: Gillard to blame for boat deaths?
Yes, her weak policies made this possible 5 (55.6%) No 4 (44.4%) Unsure 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 9 « Created by: mellie on: Dec 16^th, 2010 at 2:15pm »