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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #15 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:24pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:16pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:08pm:

bwood1946 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:03pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

Got any proof

Angry

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Green energy is cheaper than polluting energy when all costs are included.

If you factor enough fantasy into your equations.

Ditto to the questions I asked andrei about coal.

If the NSW and Federal Liberals want to keep the Australian economy chained to coal electricity, what is the true total financial price of this stupidity.

Green Renewable Electricity is cheaper than deathly coal electricity when all costs are included.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #16 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:24pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I HAVE SWORN OFF OZPOLITICS. THE MINDLESS ONE UPMANSHIP KIND OF GOT THE BETTER OF ME..

HOWEVER WOODIES LATEST RAVE GOT ME THINKING...

this is something I wouldnt want to miss... better than OPRAH!

WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE "SECOND COMING" OF BOBBY ON THE BEACH IN HIS LONG ROBES..

TURNING BACK THE TIDE AND LOWERING THE SEA LEVELS..

woody I cant bare the thought of missing that event, he has soooo much power..I promise I will be on the beach days before the happening..I will even turn Green..when and where thats all I want to know.. thankyou!

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #17 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:29pm

codswal wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I HAVE SWORN OFF OZPOLITICS. THE MINDLESS ONE UPMANSHIP KIND OF GOT THE BETTER OF ME..

HOWEVER WOODIES LATEST RAVE GOT ME THINKING...

this is something I wouldnt want to miss... better than OPRAH!

WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE "SECOND COMING" OF BOBBY ON THE BEACH IN HIS LONG ROBES..

TURNING BACK THE TIDE AND LOWERING THE SEA LEVELS..

woody I cant bare the thought of missing that event, he has soooo much power..I promise I will be on the beach days before the happening..I will even turn Green..when and where thats all I want to know.. thankyou!

Yes, Oprah might give you a car ... or a holiday in a foreign land

yet Bob Brown's Greens gives us all hope.

I look forward to you becoming A Greens supporter Codswal, when you wake from your sleep in the near future.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #18 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:32pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:29pm:

codswal wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I HAVE SWORN OFF OZPOLITICS. THE MINDLESS ONE UPMANSHIP KIND OF GOT THE BETTER OF ME..

HOWEVER WOODIES LATEST RAVE GOT ME THINKING...

this is something I wouldnt want to miss... better than OPRAH!

WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE "SECOND COMING" OF BOBBY ON THE BEACH IN HIS LONG ROBES..

TURNING BACK THE TIDE AND LOWERING THE SEA LEVELS..

woody I cant bare the thought of missing that event, he has soooo much power..I promise I will be on the beach days before the happening..I will even turn Green..when and where thats all I want to know.. thankyou!

Yes, Oprah might give you a car ... or a holiday in a foreign land

yet Bob Brown's Greens gives us all hope.

I look forward to you becoming A Greens supporter Codswal, when you wake from your sleep in the near future.

No thanks.
I'd rather have the car than Bob's hope.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #19 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 2:12pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:29pm:

codswal wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I HAVE SWORN OFF OZPOLITICS. THE MINDLESS ONE UPMANSHIP KIND OF GOT THE BETTER OF ME..

HOWEVER WOODIES LATEST RAVE GOT ME THINKING...

this is something I wouldnt want to miss... better than OPRAH!

WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE "SECOND COMING" OF BOBBY ON THE BEACH IN HIS LONG ROBES..

TURNING BACK THE TIDE AND LOWERING THE SEA LEVELS..

woody I cant bare the thought of missing that event, he has soooo much power..I promise I will be on the beach days before the happening..I will even turn Green..when and where thats all I want to know.. thankyou!

Yes, Oprah might give you a car ... or a holiday in a foreign land

yet Bob Brown's Greens gives us all hope.

I look forward to you becoming A Greens supporter Codswal, when you wake from your sleep in the near future.

woody I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ANSWERING A QUESTION..

WHEN WILL BOB BE ON THE BEACH TO MAKE THIS WONDERFUL FURTURE FOR EV ERYONE.. LIKE TURNING BAC K THE TIDE.. THAT YOU CLAIM THE LIBS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR??????????????

all I want is a sensible answer!!!!!

as you know in advance what will happen if the Libs get back in...

then you must know of bobs second coming

I do appreciate that it was J.C. that the second coming refers too.. but I am not sure that Bob does!!!!!!!!.

you do realise I said I would only turn Green if Bob turns the tide back dont you???>...just checking!

as we {libs] can do so much damage in suich a short time... I know we can depend on Super Bob to be equally up to changing things in Super quick time.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #20 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 2:16pm

No thanks.
I'd rather have the car than Bob's hope

andrei I would give up EVERYTHING to see BOB on the beach in his robes.. turning back the TIDE..

and I dont believe you wouldnt either!

all non believers would be there.. I can vouch for it.

the question is can Woody??????... can he give us a date and day and time..for this happening!! that is the question dear Yorcik, that IS the question!

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #21 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 2:22pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I don't think the Liberal party as a whole watch science fiction Green.
In fact, they would leave that to others.
Namely the Green Party or the Tooth Fairy Party.
That's why they didn't act on climate change, deadly asteroids striking the Earth, or Godzilla re-awakening from his secret lair on that unknown Pacific Island and romperstomping Tokyo once more.
And the mess with the Murray Darling region has everything to do with a long term drought that hopefully is at an end, and not the actions or otherwise of any political party.
The sea levels are exactly where they are supposed to be, and there is no evidence at all that our beaches are 'dissappearing' or our islands are sinking.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #22 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 3:29pm

codswal wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 2:12pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:29pm:

codswal wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:24pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I HAVE SWORN OFF OZPOLITICS. THE MINDLESS ONE UPMANSHIP KIND OF GOT THE BETTER OF ME..

HOWEVER WOODIES LATEST RAVE GOT ME THINKING...

this is something I wouldnt want to miss... better than OPRAH!

WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE "SECOND COMING" OF BOBBY ON THE BEACH IN HIS LONG ROBES..

TURNING BACK THE TIDE AND LOWERING THE SEA LEVELS..

woody I cant bare the thought of missing that event, he has soooo much power..I promise I will be on the beach days before the happening..I will even turn Green..when and where thats all I want to know.. thankyou!

Yes, Oprah might give you a car ... or a holiday in a foreign land

yet Bob Brown's Greens gives us all hope.

I look forward to you becoming A Greens supporter Codswal, when you wake from your sleep in the near future.

woody I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ANSWERING A QUESTION..

WHEN WILL BOB BE ON THE BEACH TO MAKE THIS WONDERFUL FURTURE FOR EV ERYONE.. LIKE TURNING BAC K THE TIDE.. THAT YOU CLAIM THE LIBS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR??????????????

all I want is a sensible answer!!!!!

as you know in advance what will happen if the Libs get back in...

then you must know of bobs second coming

I do appreciate that it was J.C. that the second coming refers too.. but I am not sure that Bob does!!!!!!!!.

you do realise I said I would only turn Green if Bob turns the tide back dont you???>...just checking!

as we {libs] can do so much damage in suich a short time... I know we can depend on Super Bob to be equally up to changing things in Super quick time.

oh you are serious cod. perhaps you require an even longer rest ... with prescribed medication.

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Reply #23 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:19pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

In response to THAT, I'll refer you to one of YOUR own threads...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1291012858

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Reply #24 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:44pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:19pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

In response to THAT, I'll refer you to one of YOUR own threads...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1291012858

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Reply #25 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:51pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 2:22pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

Greens for Climate Action

I don't think the Liberal party as a whole watch science fiction Green.
In fact, they would leave that to others.
Namely the Green Party or the Tooth Fairy Party.
That's why they didn't act on climate change, deadly asteroids striking the Earth, or Godzilla re-awakening from his secret lair on that unknown Pacific Island and romperstomping Tokyo once more.
And the mess with the Murray Darling region has everything to do with a long term drought that hopefully is at an end, and not the actions or otherwise of any political party.
The sea levels are exactly where they are supposed to be, and there is no evidence at all that our beaches are 'dissappearing' or our islands are sinking.

The Howard Government was told it would cost $4 Billion to repair the Murray Darling Basin when Howard came to office ... Howard then ignored the Murray Darling for the next 12 years.
The current mess is all the Liberal Party's fault.

Now the Neo Con Liberal Party Wing are out to do the same thing with climate change. The only differences is it will effect every Australian even more than the Liberal party Murray Darling Basin mess.

Liberals can not claim to be economic managers since sticking your head in the sand is not a viable form of economics.

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #26 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:55pm Has Climate Change been proved, or is this an assumption that is meant to be automatically accepted, no proof required.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #27 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 5:00pm Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:55pm: Has Climate Change been proved, or is this an assumption that is meant to be automatically accepted, no proof required. Climate Change ... or Human Caused Climate Change?
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #28 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 5:02pm ____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 5:00pm: Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:55pm: Has Climate Change been proved, or is this an assumption that is meant to be automatically accepted, no proof required. Climate Change ... or Human Caused Climate Change? Don't you know what the Greens policy is?
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Reply #29 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 5:04pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 5:02pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 5:00pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 4:55pm:

Has Climate Change been proved, or is this an assumption that is meant to be automatically accepted, no proof required.

Climate Change ... or Human Caused Climate Change?

Don't you know what the Greens policy is?

I will repeat ... so read it slow

Do you mean climate change or human caused climate change?

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