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Reply #15 - Dec 3rd, 2010 at 5:25pm
 
The Ugly Truth Within the Fiscal Commission Report (Cont)

Our leaders will shut up.

Why?

Because putting up means:
Collapsing the bankrupt institutions -- including all of the largest banks -- and forcing them to recognize their actual losses. This means removing the ability to maintain fantasy valuation claims on HELOCs behind defaulted firsts that are underwater; recognizing when securities were sold without being actually perfected in securitization; enforcement of actual market price in all asset valuations; and jailing those who lied and breaking up those institutions.

Collapsing housing prices to actual utility value. Removing speculative premium from housing isn't just a good idea, it's necessary. A house is a consumer durable good. Allowing it to be a speculative financial instrument is beyond idiotic; it is a demonstrably fraudulent practice and mathematically impossible to sustain.

Fixing our balance of trade problem. This means putting a stop to offshoring of labor as a means of chasing slave labor and avoiding environmental regulation. This is the real reason why we have seen the destruction of our labor base: We're sending our labor overseas not because we're less skilled here in the United States, but because we don't allow people to spew poisons into the air and water, nor do we allow them to build barracks and effectively force the labor force to live there and work under slave-like conditions. This is the legacy of our "manufacturing," whether it be to make clothes or toys.

•Recognizing that multiples and leverage in the markets that are based on the above have to come out. The idea that we can "sustain" multiples of 15-20x in markets is only possible when one has massive scams, environmental damage and fraud from the above. Banks without financial scams are institutions that earn mid-single-digit returns -- all in dividends -- and are priced near book, as they are effective utilities. Companies without the ability to play leverage games are priced at their net operating margin on a perpetual basis which, again, is mostly paid out in dividends -- which means their P/E ratios are cut in half, or more!

Real rates must rise to the point that it is never free (nor are you paid) to borrow. That is, borrowing money has to be expensive, so you do it only when you believe you can earn more via production than the borrowing costs. This is a major problem for the so-called "permanent growth" folks; in point of fact, it means that credit must contract back to about half of what is outstanding now, and this will shrink GDP.
Best of luck on any -- much less all -- of the above.


Our nation is on an unsustainable fiscal path. Spending is rising and revenues are falling short, requiring the government to borrow huge sums each year to make up the difference. We face staggering deficits. In 2010, federal spending was nearly 24 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), the value of all goods and services produced in the economy. Only during World War II was federal spending a larger part of the economy. Tax revenues stood at 15 percent of GDP this year, the lowest level since 1950. The gap between spending and revenue the budget deficit was just under nine percent of GDP.

No. The deficit was closer to 12% of GDP and in point of fact has been at 10% or over since 2007:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-wwwget_gallery=566


Since the last time our budget was balanced in 2001, the federal debt has increased dramatically, rising from 33 percent of GDP to 62 percent of GDP in 2010. The escalation was driven in large part by two wars and a slew of fiscally irresponsible policies, along with a deep economic downturn. We have arrived at the moment of truth, and neither political party is without blame.

Our budget was not balanced in 2001. It was, however, close (blue line). Wars were not the primary problem, however, and expansions in debt (deficits) that match or are less than GDP growth in private terms (that is, where the red line is above the blue line) are not damaging. In fact, they show improving fiscal stability.

However, what is intolerable is a red line that is under the blue line. Such a state is unsustainable, as noted by the commission. Unfortunately we now are at a point where this number has approached 20% of GDP, for three years running.

None of this has do with "wars," which have been going on since 2001. Instead, all of it is due to attempting to prop up failed institutions and fiscal policies.


The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects if we continue on our current course, deficits will remain high throughout the rest of this decade and beyond, and debt will spiral ever higher, reaching 90 percent of GDP in 2020.
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Reply #16 - Dec 3rd, 2010 at 5:26pm
 
The Ugly Truth Within the Fiscal Commission Report (Cont)


Debt is already to basically 100% of GDP if you count transfers out of the Social Security and Medicare programs. And if you don't, you're being dishonest so long as those programs exist.

Federal debt this high is unsustainable. It will drive up interest rates for all borrowers businesses and individuals and curtail economic growth by crowding out private investment. By making it more expensive for entrepreneurs and businesses to raise capital, innovate, and create jobs, rising debt could reduce per-capita GDP, each Americans share of the nations economy, by as much as 15 percent by 2035.

A 20% reduction in GDP in real terms, no matter what is done nominally, is unavoidable as we sit right now.

If we don't do it soon we're going to face a 40% collapse in GDP, as two more years of this garbage will put us in a position where that becomes unavoidable. Attempting to "print" our way out of the mess with monetization through QE-whatever doesn't change this -- you can change the nominal numbers but not the real impact on citizens' finances.


Unfortunately the commission continues to smoke bone. Specifically:


Don't disrupt the fragile economic recovery. [Emphasis theirs.] We need a comprehensive plan now to reduce the debt over the long term. But budget cuts should start gradually so they dont interfere with the ongoing economic recovery. Growth is essential to restoring fiscal strength and balance.

There is -- and has been -- no recovery. Printing and borrowing money is not "recovery." Back out the deficit spending beyond economic growth and you see that we're down 10% for the second year in a row -- the definition of Depression.

We cannot avoid reality and the longer we keep this crap up the worse the adjustment will be as these distortions must come back out at some point, and the longer we keep accumulating that damage the worse the adjustment will be.

Don't make promises we can't keep. [Emphasis theirs.] Our country has tough choices to make. We need to be willing to tell Americans the truth: We cannot afford to continue spending more than we take in, and we cannot continue to make promises we know full well we cannot keep.

You just lied. See above.

Nobody wants to stop putting today on the credit card and promising to pay tomorrow, but that's exactly what has to happen.

More to the point, it is what is going to happen. We still have the ability to choose how and when, but that option and ability will not exist for much longer. These choices will be made for us if we refuse to make them ourselves.

The general plan put forward is good. But the hopium has to stop being smoked, and that includes in the commission.


Sadly, the evidence for that is absent.

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http://seekingalpha.com/article/239520-the-ugly-truth-within-the-fiscal-commissi...
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As Jeff Goldblum said, in Independence Day, "Times up"!
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Reply #17 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 8:01am
 
New figures out from the US, unemployment up.
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Reply #18 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 8:43am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 4th, 2010 at 8:01am:
New figures out from the US, unemployment up.


Employment Situation Summary

The unemployment rate edged up to 9.8 percent in November, and nonfarm payroll employment was little changed (+39,000), the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Temporary help services and health care continued to add jobs over the month, while employment fell in retail trade. Employment in most major industries changed little in November.

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http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
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Yes, I see the official figures bounced back to 9.8%.

However, the shadowstats figures, run by John Williams is the US now show a rate over 23%, the full Un & Under Employment!
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
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Reply #19 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 8:44am
 
The Mighty US$

Last Report dated 01/12/2010

US$ Index (basket of Currencies):  @ 79.15 (Last Report - 80.89) (2010/06/04 - 87.85)

http://www.goldseek.com/quotes/charts/usdollar/usdollarindex24hour.php

Euro - US$: @ 1.3414 (Last Report - 1.3072) (2010/06/04 - 120.44)
AUD$ - US$: @ 0.9931 (Last Report - 0.9636) (2010/06/04 - 83.17)
AUD$ - GBP: @ 0.6294 (Last Report - 0.6164) (2010/06/04 - 57.04)
AUD$ - Euro:  @ 0.7403 (Last Report - 0.7372) (2010/06/04 - 69.06)

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/fxc.html

Gold - @ US$1,415.10 (Last Report - US$1,393.00) (2010/06/04 - $1,207.80)
Oil -  @ US$89.42 (Last Report - US$85.03)  (2010/06/04 - $72.59)

DOW @ 11,382 - (Up 20@ Tuesday close) (Last Report - 11,006)  (2010/06/04 - 11,444)
All Ords @  4,780 (Up 18 @ Wednesday close) (Last Report - 4,677) (2010/06/04 - 4472)

http://www.bloomberg.com/?b=0

Last 5 years DOW -
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI#chart3:symbol=

THERE was movement at the FED, for the word had passed around, That the US$ was an old Regret and its value had long since passed away
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The VOLATILITY continues!

The US$ index has reversed some of its recent gains, with many currencies gaining against the US$. For example, the Australian $ & the Euro bouncing up around 3c.
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M

Share markets bounced back, as the US$ took a breather!

Both Gold & Oil increased significantly, because of the rising US$!

The possibility of triple digit Oil, is again looming larger and with it the likelihood of a further Economic slowdown!
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Reply #20 - Dec 5th, 2010 at 5:04pm
 
Growth can't continue forever in finite world


The op-ed piece by University of the Pacific economics Professor Bill Herrin published Oct. 23 in The Record, "Sleep well tonight; the future is probably bright," contains misconceptions about population growth, and his reliance on facts and evidence is selective.

It is true that the rate of population increase is in decline, but he failed to mention that population growth is still high, with 77 million added to the planet annually.

That increase will result in 2 billion people being added over the next few decades before population can be stabilized.

Since we already have 2 billion living on $2 a day or less, 1 billion going hungry every day, millions in refugee camps and millions unemployed, it would seem insane to add to an already stressed population.

Herrin failed to mention global climate change that will result in 9 billion people living on a planet far different from the one I grew up on in the 1940s. This new planet will have higher ocean levels, devastating to coastal areas such as New Jersey, Florida and Bangladesh.

However, there is no indication that humans are willing to do anything about rising greenhouse gas emissions. It's likely it's already too late to avoid climate disruption and flooding. People remain in denial.

Herrin also failed to mention peak oil production. Our oil-dependent, industrial food production uses yesterday's photosynthesis stored as coal, gas and oil. Since 1859, we have used up a trillion barrels of oil. An estimated trillion remain, but it is much more difficult to extract than the first trillion. This fossil energy accumulated over 400 million years. To grow enough biomass to replace current oil use of 80 million barrels per day and meet other demands for food and fiber would require 30 to 40 additional planets' worth of farmland.

How dependent are we? The bioenergetics are not good. In nature, if an animal expends more energy to capture food than the food contains, starvation is the eventual outcome. Our contrived food chain uses 10 calories of fossil energy to put one calorie of food on the table. When energy production declines, we can expect food production to decline also. Here is a recent headline from the British newspaper The Guardian: "US military warns oil output may dip causing massive shortages by 2015." See, you don't need to worry until at least 2015!

Thomas Malthus was also an economist, and his prediction about population outpacing food supply has been wrong for the past 200 years due to human cleverness at increasing food supply. The result has been an overshoot of carrying capacity. Some scientists think the population will crash to a lower carrying capacity of about 1 billion or less. Most geological epochs have rounding errors of 10,000 years or more, which is the time frame of our human civilization. Our moment in the sun will be a short run by geological reckoning.

Herrin puts faith in knowledge and our rising per capita incomes, but wages are stagnating in America. As for knowledge ,we seem to lack even common sense in finance and other endeavors.

Economists talk only of growth when what we need is stability and a reversal of growth on an overpopulated, finite planet.

Perhaps economist Ken Boulding said it best: "Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist."

Economics is a subset of ecology and nature, not the other way around.

It is a biological and geological world, and we need to come to terms with its finiteness no matter how self-congratulatory we are at globalization and at being clever.

Lee Miller has a bachelor's degree in biology from Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania and an master's degree in biological sciences from the University of Delaware. He retired after working 37 years with the state Department of Fish and Game, mostly on fish problems in the Delta. He is a member of the Sierra Club's Committee for Sustainable World Population.

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http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20101204/A_OPINION03/1204031...
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Malthus is correct, as is Professor Albert Bartlett, it is simply not possible to have Exponential Growth of anything, in a Finite world.

We are now living thru a period, which will prove that statement to be fact, not just a theory!
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Reply #21 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 12:36pm
 
hawil wrote on Dec 5th, 2010 at 5:46pm:
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Could you please explain to me what you mean by the Keynesian and Austrian school of economic thought.
Austria was in a mess 60 years ago, its population has been almost constant; about 7million, but if there is population growth, it would only lower the standard of living, because, although not as densely populated as some European countries, it is dense enough.
One thing what the Austrians and more Northern countries have going for them, they are more willing to pay taxes, without which any government cannot function. Greece is a good example, pay little or no tax, even if you can afford  a million dollar Villa.
As far as China is concerned, we in the western world are reaping the rewards of their slave labour, although the tide is turning and the rich Chinese are eating our cray-fish at $65.00 a kilo, and out of reach of most Australians.
Is population growth the answer, definitely not, as we live on a finite planet as previously stated by others in this debate.
Is life really that much better now than it was 50 years ago?
It must be very frustrating to drive to work for often more than an hour and in some places two hours; i would prefer 20 minutes on a push-bike, which is not possible today for most people.
How long is it, since the population reached 1billion, it is less than 200 years, and now some so-called experts are talking of 9billion; a lot of hogwash.
Population growth is only good for a minority of the population.


My apology for the delay, I am still time restrained, at present, which will continue to be the case for a while to come.

Keynesian & Austrian are lines of Economic thought, as you put it and particularly in the Austrian case, not so much where it came from.

In a nutshell, I would describe the two lines of thought, as follows -

Keynesian
Contends that the "free market" doesn't always work efficiently and government is needed to smooth the road.

Austrian
Contends that the "free market" is the proper arbiter and that governments inevitably get it wrong.

Following are some sites that go a little further in describing both trains of thought & a video which goes into both, more from the Austrian perspective -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School


In my opinion, both lines of thought have a place, given the circumstances.

At the present time, neither of these OR both of these are needed, but neither WILL PROVIDE A SIMPLE FIX, for the current situation.

Why?

Because, Demand, due to the following issues, is effectively in decline -
1) Baby Boomer generation (worldwide) going into retirement.
2) The slowing World Population Growth rate.
3) Peak Energy (Oil initially) is either already here or is imminent.

Additionally, government Revenues are going Down & Expenses, in the form of Pensions, Health Care & interest on government Debt is going to go UP.

This is a long term situation, it will be with us for 20 years or more.

Given that these are long term factors, it is very difficult to see where sufficient Global Employment is going to arise from, to get the Unemployed back to work and get the Economy back on its usual track.

The time for fixes was probably around 40-50 years ago, the Private sector would not have seen the problems coming and governments have "elected" to look the other way, in "Hopium" that the future would fix itself. IT HASN'T!

We are being had! At least, there is an attempt by TPTB to continue the status quo, via a "smoke & mirrors" campaign.

As you suggest Population Growth is not the answer. In fact, Population Growth has been slowing for some time and in about 25-30 years, it will actually go into decline, which is another consideration, for long term planners. But Population Growth can not be re-instituted as a fix for our current economic ills, for a number of reasons, it would actually be counter-productive!  

You asked when the 1st Billion came, I believe it was around 1800AD.

Given no major miscalculations, the Global Population may reach 8 Billion, but I can see it ever reaching 9 Billion, there are just too many problems in the way!

Finally, the reason that TPTB want a continuation of the status quo, is that they gain the most from a continuation of Population & Economic Growth, in its current form.

That said, the Exponential Economic Growth Fairy is dying, all that remains is a good cremation!
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Reply #22 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 1:42pm
 
Kuwait weighs nuclear future


Kuwait has launched a feasibility study into nuclear power development with the aim of having one or two atomic plants in operation by 2020.

The study, undertaken by the French government's Agency France Nuclear International and the US nuclear consultant and fuel developer Lightbridge, will assess potential project sites in southern Kuwait, where water from the Gulf could be used to cool reactors.

The size of the potential power plants has not been determined but each would have a capacity of at least 1 gigawatt, the Middle East business intelligence publication MEED reported, citing Suhaila Marafi, the director of studies and research at Kuwait's ministry of electricity and water.

In September, Ahmad Bishara, the secretary general of Kuwait's national nuclear energy committee, said the emirate planned to build four nuclear reactors by 2022. "Kuwait has enough sovereign funds to take up the expenses," he said.

Currently, Kuwait meets about 75 per cent of its power demand by burning oil and the remaining 25 per cent from gas-fired plants. UAE power generation is about 30 per cent oil and 70 per cent gas, while more than half Saudi Arabia's electricity generation is oil-fuelled.

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Kuwait is the home of the Burgan Oil Fields.

The Burgan field is also one of the older  (discovered in 1938) & larger fields (2nd largest Globally, by reserves) still in production and there is an obvious reason why the Kuwaiti's would be looking at Nuclear power.

Kuwait's Oil Production is about to go into steep decline!
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Reply #23 - Dec 7th, 2010 at 9:00pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Dec 4th, 2010 at 8:44am:
The Mighty US$

Last Report dated 01/12/2010

US$ Index (basket of Currencies):  @ 79.15 (Last Report - 80.89) (2010/06/04 - 87.85)

http://www.goldseek.com/quotes/charts/usdollar/usdollarindex24hour.php

Euro - US$: @ 1.3414 (Last Report - 1.3072) (2010/06/04 - 120.44)
AUD$ - US$: @ 0.9931 (Last Report - 0.9636) (2010/06/04 - 83.17)
AUD$ - GBP: @ 0.6294 (Last Report - 0.6164) (2010/06/04 - 57.04)
AUD$ - Euro:  @ 0.7403 (Last Report - 0.7372) (2010/06/04 - 69.06)

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/fxc.html

Gold - @ US$1,415.10 (Last Report - US$1,393.00) (2010/06/04 - $1,207.80)
Oil -  @ US$89.42 (Last Report - US$85.03)  (2010/06/04 - $72.59)

DOW @ 11,382 - (Up 20@ Tuesday close) (Last Report - 11,006)  (2010/06/04 - 11,444)
All Ords @  4,780 (Up 18 @ Wednesday close) (Last Report - 4,677) (2010/06/04 - 4472)

http://www.bloomberg.com/?b=0

Last 5 years DOW -
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI#chart3:symbol=

THERE was movement at the FED, for the word had passed around, That the US$ was an old Regret and its value had long since passed away
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The VOLATILITY continues!

The US$ index has reversed some of its recent gains, with many currencies gaining against the US$. For example, the Australian $ & the Euro bouncing up around 3c.
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M

Share markets bounced back, as the US$ took a breather!

Both Gold & Oil increased significantly, because of the rising US$!

The possibility of triple digit Oil, is again looming larger and with it the likelihood of a further Economic slowdown!



Both the Australian & Canadian Dollar's are again poised near parity with the US$ -
AUD = 0.9959
CAD = 0.9983

And, Oil & Gold continue to rise! Oil has just gone over $90.00 P/barrel.
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Reply #24 - Dec 8th, 2010 at 3:43pm
 
Chart of the Day: U.S. Taxes


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This chart should be ingrained in the mind of anybody who cares about fiscal policy. The main things to note:

•Federal taxes are the lowest in 60 years, which gives you a pretty good idea of why America’s long-term debt ratios are a big problem. If the taxes reverted to somewhere near their historical mean, the problem would be solved at a stroke.
•Income taxes, in particular, both personal and corporate, are low and falling. That trend is not sustainable.
•Employment taxes, by contrast — the regressive bit of the fiscal structure — are bearing a large and increasing share of the brunt. Any time that somebody starts complaining about how the poor don’t pay income tax, point them to this chart. Income taxes are just one part of the pie, and everybody with a job pays employment taxes.
•There aren’t any wealth taxes, but the closest thing we’ve got — estate and gift taxes — have shrunk to zero, after contributing a non-negligible amount to the public fisc in earlier decades.
If you were structuring a tax code from scratch, it would look nothing like this. But the problem is that tax hikes seem to be politically impossible no matter which party is in power. And since any revamp of the tax code would involve tax hikes somewhere, I fear we’re fiscally doomed.

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1) If anyone has seen a similar chart of Australian Tax, could they please post it, here.

2) It seems that Individual & Company taxes are certainly too low & are part of the problem.
It also seems that these taxes took  a big dip in the later part of the 1990's & the early part of this decade, at a time I would have expected a big increase in taxes due to the bouyant condition of the Global Economy.
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Reply #25 - Dec 8th, 2010 at 7:32pm
 
24 Signs of a recovering USA?


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The following are 24 signs that all of America is becoming a rotting, post-industrial, post-apocalyptic wasteland just like Detroit....

#1 The second most dangerous city in the United States - Camden, New Jersey - is about to lay off about half its police.

#2 In the city of Camden, about the only "industries" that are truly thriving are drug-dealing and prostitution.  It is estimated that there are literally dozens of open-air drug markets in Camden.

#3 The city of Newark, New Jersey laid off 13 percent of its police force just last week.

#4 Of 315 municipalities the New Jersey State Policemen's union recently surveyed, more than half indicated that they were planning to lay off police officers.

#5 At least 1000 people now live in the 200 miles of flood tunnels that exist under the city of Las Vegas.

#6 All over America, asphalt roads are being ground up and are being replaced with gravel because it is cheaper to maintain.  The state of South Dakota has transformed over 100 miles of asphalt road into gravel over the past year, and 38 out of the 83 counties in the state of Michigan have transformed at least some of their asphalt roads into gravel roads.

#7 The number of Americans on food stamps has hit yet another new all-time record.  42.9 million Americans are now enrolled and federal authorities fully expect that number to continue to skyrocket.

#8 The city of San Jose, California recently laid off 49 firefighters.

#9 Over the past year, approximately 100 of New York's state parks and historic sites have had to cut services and reduce hours.

#10 In 2009 alone, approximately 4 million more Americans joined the ranks of the poor.

#11 The state of Arizona recently decided to stop paying for many types of organ transplants for people enrolled in its Medicaid program.

#12 Many of the police in Arizona that patrol communities near the border with Mexico say that they are "outmanned" and "outgunned" and now live in fear of being taken out by drug cartel assassins.

#13 Gang violence in America is getting totally out of control.  According to authorities, there are now over 1 million members of criminal gangs operating inside the country, and those gangs are responsible for up to 80% of the violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year.

#14 Oakland, California Police Chief Anthony Batts has announced that due to severe budget cuts there are a number of crimes that his department will simply not be able to respond to any longer.  The crimes that the Oakland police will no longer be responding to include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism.

#15 One out of every six Americans is now enrolled in at least one anti-poverty program run by the federal government.

#16 The state of Illinois is so far behind on its bills that not even schools and essential social services are getting their money on time.

#17 The sheriff's department in Ashtabula County, Ohio has been slashed from 112 to 49 deputies, and there is now just one vehicle remaining to patrol all 720 square miles of the county.

#18 As our local communities degenerate economically, it appears that they are falling apart morally as well.  There are approximately 400,00 registered sex offenders in the United States as you read this.

#19 In a desperate attempt to save money, the city of Colorado Springs turned off a third of its streetlights and put its police helicopters up for auction.

#20 According to one recent study, approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010.

#21 According to the U.S. Department of Transportation, more than 25 percent of America's nearly 600,000 bridges need significant repairs or are burdened with more traffic than they were designed to carry.

#22 In Georgia, the county of Clayton recently eliminated its entire public bus system in order to save 8 million dollars.

#23 Things have gotten so bad in Stockton, California that the police union put up a billboard with the following message: "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops."

#24 Major cities such as Philadelphia, Baltimore and Sacramento have instituted "rolling brownouts" in which various city fire stations are shut down on a rotating basis.  So if you live in one of those cities and you have a fire, you had better hope that your local fire station is not scheduled for a "brownout" that day.

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Yep, sure signs that recovery is on the way?
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Reply #26 - Dec 10th, 2010 at 12:25pm
 
Pimco Raises U.S. Economic Growth Forecast on Stimulus


Dec. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Pacific Investment Management Co., which manages the world’s biggest bond fund, is raising its forecast for U.S. growth next year as policy makers pump a “massive amount” of stimulus into the economy, Chief Executive Officer Mohamed El-Erian said.

Pimco sees the economy growing 3 percent to 3.5 percent in the fourth quarter of next year from the same period of this year. That compares with its previous estimate for 2 percent to 2.5 percent growth and the 2.2 percent gain forecast for this year by the International Monetary Fund.

“The U.S. is using fiscal and monetary policy to try to attain escape velocity for the economy,” El-Erian said in a telephone interview today from his office in Newport Beach, California. “What we don’t know yet is whether that will be enough not just to change the economy’s trajectory for one year but to place it on a medium-term sustainable path.”

Pimco began using the term “new normal” almost two years ago to describe the changed state of the world economy after the worst recession since the Great Depression. Under the new normal, the U.S. is seen as being saddled with sluggish growth and high unemployment for years as it struggles to overcome the fallout from the crisis.

U.S. policy makers are reacting to the new normal by pursuing “increasingly unconventional” strategies to aid the economy, El-Erian said. The Federal Reserve intends to purchase $600 billion of longer-term U.S. Treasury securities by the middle of 2011 to help spur growth. President Barack Obama has reached agreement with Republican lawmakers on a budget package that includes a $120 billion payroll-tax cut.

“The new normal is still here,” El-Erian, 52, said. “What the policy makers are doing is kicking the can down the road in response to the symptoms of the new normal, but they’re not yet changing the medium-term dynamics.”

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What Politicians & Central Bankers, in the US & elsewhere, have done is thrown Trillions of $'s at the Economy, in order to save the existing order, the status quo, the Establishment.

Any small pick up in GDP, relates to the temporary & massive stimulus being applied, not to a permanent revival in Consumer Demand!  

In fact, due to a number of macro Economic factors (Demographics, Peak Oil, Climate Change & Debt), there will not be any permanent Consumer Demand driven Economic rebound.

Therefore, the current massive stimulus revival efforts will not work, they are actually exacerbating the problems!  

I should also add that the Aus-terity efforts of some countries, notably European, will make matters worse, for quite some time and Consumer Demand will still decline, due to the above mentioned macro Economic factors!
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Reply #27 - Dec 11th, 2010 at 3:43pm
 
UK time bomb as population grows older


TWICE as many “very old people” (aged 85 and over) are living in Britain compared to 25 years ago, government figures revealed yesterday.

And there are now more pensioners than children (under 16), as population ageing takes it toll.

Since 1984 the proportion of British people under 16 fell by two per cent, and the proportion over 65 increased by one per cent, said the Office for National Statistics (ONS).


Last month the government’s Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) warned: “if left unaddressed, upward pressure on spending from the ageing of the population might well put public sector net debt on an unsustainable upward trajectory.”

According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) the effect of population ageing on the UK is seven times greater than the harm inflicted by the economic crisis.

“Pressures from ageing need to be addressed by reforming pension and health entitlements,” the IMF said.

“Postponing required reforms would likely result in larger and more painful adjustment in later years.”

The proportion of working age people slightly increased since 1984, the ONS reported. But Patrick Nolan of the think tank Reform warned it will fall in the future.

“We’re going to have a decreasing proportion of people to fund services like health, pensions, and elderly care,” he said. “Young people have to pay for their own pensions while also funding pensions and care for today’s elderly, through taxes.”

Countries like Singapore, New Zealand, Australia and Chile are reforming public services with mechanisms for people to save for their own retirement costs, said Nolan.

However, the situation is worse in countries with lower fertility rates than the UK, the ONS reported.

Italy and German have the most aged populations in Europe, it said, while Japan has the most elderly population in the world.

The data also showed that one in ten people in the UK were born abroad, a lower rate than observed in most of the other surveyed countries.

Switzerland and Ireland were among the countries with a higher proportion of foreign born residents.

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Let me put this into perspective, this situation has been known for about 40 years and just as the first "official" Baby Boomers are scheduled to start retiring (Janury 1st, 2011), the Politicians "discover" it MAY be a problem.

The reason it's now a problem, is because the Politicians kept kicking the can (Aging Demographics) down the road, in HOPIUM that something would solve the problem and anyway, the problem wouldn't surface on their watch.

Well, the future has arrived, it is now a problem and "all of a sudden" the Pollies want to cut entitlements for Pensions & Health to the Baby Boomers.

In effect, the pollies are trying to shift responsibly from themselves, who were charged to get it correct, to the Boomers, who paid their taxes all these years.

I have some news for any Politician who tries this on, you will have a fight on yours hands and you will do so, at your own peril!
   
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Reply #28 - Dec 12th, 2010 at 11:55am
 
End of Consummerism


It's not the end of the world, just the end of consumerism. We are about to wave goodbye to the dream of endless economic growth.

A change is about to be forced on society because energy consumption pretty much is the economy. And we are about to run short of the cheap energy which has been driving the past century of unchecked economic expansion.

Graph the world's energy consumption against its gross domestic product (GDP) and the two lines track.

However, a reckoning is coming. The ecological limits on growth have come into view. Climate change and over- population. But peak oil most immediately.

Anyone who can remember the last oil crisis of 1979 - President Jimmy Carter warning of national catastrophe in the United States - will also remember how swiftly the world moved on again.

The Club of Rome's The Limits to Growth, a study based on an alarming set of computer predictions, was briefly a fashionable read; it fell out of fashion, along with flared pants.

In truth, several factors underpin economic growth.

The availability of capital is one - a free flow of credit to build factories and launch businesses. Population is another. More people means more production. And technology. That goes without saying. We would like to think human inventiveness is the biggest single reason for continually rising living standards.

However, "biophysical economists" like Charles Hall, a professor at State University of New York, argue that the modern era is predominantly the story of how we have turned the energy so conveniently locked up in buried fossil fuels into an ever-expanding array of consumer goods and services.

It even accounts for empires. Great Britain arose because it had the ready supply of coal to turn iron into ships and cannons. The US became a world power because it had the sweet light oil fields of Pennsylvania and Texas.

Hall says it is obvious energy is needed to make things. Or even grow them. When the tractors, fertilisers and all the other energy inputs are totted up, it takes about four litres of oil to put the food on our plates each day.

But Hall says what really matters is the gap between the price we pay for energy and how much value we can then extract from it - the energy returned on the energy invested (EROEI). This is the profit margin which makes the difference between us feeling rich or poor as nations.

For a century, oil and coal have seemed so cheap that economically they have barely been a talking point. It has only cost about a barrel of oil for every 20 barrels extracted. So petroleum has been inexpensive to deliver. The EROEI story for coal-mining has been very similar. Then, because economic activity is energy consumption by another name, this has created plenty of head- room in the economy as a whole.

Hall's analyses show that in the 1990s and into the 2000s, the energy bill to run the US was less than 10 per cent of its GDP. Which, after all the necessary costs of life, like infrastructure, health and education, were taken into account, still left a quarter of the entire economy for discretionary spending.

But, he asks, what if the price of oil were to double - as it did in the 2008 spike that preceded, and may have even provoked, the financial meltdown? Or quadruple as it did in the 1970s, and some are suggesting might happen again if oil supplies become constrained?

Hall says energy could suddenly become 20 per cent of society's running costs, or even more than a third. And the cuts to balance the books would have to come off the discretionary spending. So that sense of easy wealth would fast be wiped out. A quarter could shrink to next to nothing fairly rapidly.
But broadly it can be seen we rely on a world where our energy sources are not just plentiful but also dirt cheap. A profit margin has to be built in to rig the national GDP game. And when that era ends, we had better have a plan B ready, Hall says.

The focus is on petroleum because oil and natural gas are still overwhelmingly the prime fuel sources for the world.

According to the annual BP statistical review of world energy, oil makes up 35 per cent of the global energy budget, while natural gas is another 24 per cent. Coal is then 29 per cent, while nuclear is just 5 per cent and renewables, like hydro and wind, answer for the remaining 7 per cent.

The peak oil argument is that the Earth's supply of petroleum is limited and we have burnt through a trillion barrels of crude oil now. Our appetite has been exponential - each year always more. We have also quite naturally been pumping the cheap and easy-to-get-at oil first, the large reservoirs found in places like Alaska and the Middle East.

So eventually, we will be left with only a diminishing supply of the dirty and hard-to-recover oil. The deep sea wells that blew up in the Gulf of Mexico, the tar sands that will have to be open-cast mined in Canada, the scattering of smaller fields that might remain spotted around the world.

Which is when Hall's EROEI and the law of diminishing returns kicks in. Steadily the cost of producing oil will rise and its in- built profit margin will begin to shrivel.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/mainlander/4448279/End-of-consumerism
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Guess what is already happening to discretionary spending, at both Personal & Government levels?
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Reply #29 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 10:59am
 
Watch Jon Stewart's Takedown Of Ben Bernanke's 'Not Printing Money' Claims



There's nothing funnier to 99% of America than Ben Bernanke's claim that he's not printing money.

Especially when, thanks to the Jon Stewart, you see Ben's latest 60 Minutes interview juxtaposed against another 60 Minutes interview when the Chairman said he was printing money -- the difference between now and then being that the Fed was buying corporate assets and now it's buying government bonds.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-ben-bernanke-2010-12
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