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Re:  Investors snap up homes for cost of a car
Reply #15 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 11:35am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 10:24am:
Verge wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 9:30am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 12:26am:
Verge wrote on Nov 7th, 2010 at 5:35pm:
Considering we are in the process of building a new home, the best quote we got for a 25 square home the way we wanted it is about $219k, I'd like to know how housing prices are supposed to crash.

Even if land crashes, it still costs what it costs to build a house.


Because it is only worth what the bigger fool is willing to pay for it Wink


Really, considering I went through the process of quoting up to owner builder, we wouldnt have got by all that much cheaper.

Steel costs what it costs, so does concrete, bricks, plaster, tiles and carpets.

Tradesman also cost what they costs, and Im lucky, but plenty of others are paying big hourly rates because if they dont the builders just go onto the stimulus projects and make a killing there.

Also, with all the environmental regulations now, that decent dollars there too.

When you factor in some big ticket items like solar hotwater costing $4.5k, aircon at $5k, tiling at $12k, stove at $3k, higher ceilings for $3k, bricks at $7.5k and another $8.5k to lay them, carpet for $3k, blinds and curtains and shades for $5k, driveway and footpaths for $6k, fencing for $5k and thats just a few easily identifiable ones and thats already a quarter of the cost.  I havent even gone near plastering, painting, roofing, plumbing, kitchens and bathrooms a chippy.


There in lies the rub. They wouldn't be quoting so much if it wasn't for the stupid and wasteful stimulus package feeding easy money to them, meaning they can pick and choose in what should otherwise be the time of a property downturn !!

Again we see tax payers money being used to prop up greedy trades people. And what is the payoff to the consumer ? NOTHING !! You end up paying more Sad

Although off topic a little, my trades are pretty good.
Tiler is only $20 an hour (he owes me a favour), the brickie is only on 85 cents a brick and has to supply sills, sand and cement.

The chippy is only on about $55 and we are getting away with doing our own driveways, fencing and footpaths (builders on both sides of the family who owe me for all the GST and tax work I do without charge).

The dearest is the plumber at $66 an hour.

To me those rates were pretty fair.

Brickies in Wagga doing a truckload of stimulus work there are on something like $2.20 a brick.  Absolutley astounding cosidering a decent brickie worth his metal can put down a thousand a say.
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Re:  Investors snap up homes for cost of a car
Reply #16 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 11:40am
 
A patient I once looked after told me he brought Units at $17,000 Aust each. Shocked
Were they in down-town ghetto boulevard?
Can investors afford to fly over and  'take care' of their properties from being 'trashed'?


in the end, I think its finally good to see Australia 'own' America in some way. "Get to work ya varmants!" Grin
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Re:  Investors snap up homes for cost of a car
Reply #17 - Nov 8th, 2010 at 12:00pm
 

Amadd wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 10:49am:
I think taxpayers will be used to prop up everything.
..that's our purpose.



Yup, privatise the profits and socialise the losses - that is what unbridled capitalism delivers in practice...
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Re:  Investors snap up homes for cost of a car
Reply #18 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 12:38pm
 
JC Denton wrote on Nov 7th, 2010 at 9:08pm:
hawil wrote on Nov 7th, 2010 at 8:21pm:
"Investors are now seeing incredible value buying in America where they can get homes that were $300,000 in 2007 for $35,000 with cash (rental) returns between 15 to 25 per cent net after expenses," he said.
If the houses can be bought that cheaply, why would anyone be paying such high rent?


Some people don't want to live in neighbourhoods where there's a risk of being rolled by the Cripz and MS-13 every time they leave their house. You couldn't even pay me to live in these types of communities.


Something else to consider (apart from the risk of gang violence) is WHY the houses are so cheap...
What's the point of buying a cheap house as a rental investment, in an area with no work??
No one could afford to rent it, and if it sits empty too long, you run the risk of squatters moving in and trashing it...
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