Wasn't it great as a kid.

Getting a Guy, dressing him up and then setting fire to him on a bonfire.

I don't know, I tried to explain to Aussies about the concept and it sounds so macabre when you explain it but it's all a bit of fun.

We'll probably need to stop it soon because the pink, social equality brigade will find it all so Un-PC.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 5^th, 2010 at 8:47am:


Perhaps because the message behind the history of this was very political. They celibrate the failure to assasinate King James the I.

for one, thank my Fun Nazi Overlords for protecting me from everything that may cause some level of excitment in my life.

x



does that go for PANSI as well?...ha.ha.ha.

Ah cracker night, that was fun. Can`t have that sort of thing now of course, the little darlings might have a bit of fun, not on at all!  Besides, far safer to experiment with drugs than have normal fun, everyone should know that.

tickfen wrote on Nov 5^th, 2010 at 12:08pm:


At least that way, we might not find needles in the park when we take our kids to play early in the morning!

Thing is, we can`t idiot proof the world. The Darwin factor can`t be eliminated.

You sure that`s not just another drug gang fight mate?

There was nothing better as a kid Jay than getting a Guy and setting fire to him on a bonfire.

It reminded us what this country is about!

I sometimes wonder if there is a growth in violence these past 2 decades due to the crackdown upon 'risky' behaviour in a constructive sense?

Ahhh the joys of amateur fireworks, how I miss them.

It's just not the same turning out with half a million other people to watch your tax dollars go up in smoke as you 'oooooh' and 'aaaaah' at the official fireworks displays.

I suppose it's for our own good...we australian adults can't be trusted to do anything with the potential for physical harm.  Thank the overlords for keeping us safe from ourselves!

codswal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2010 at 7:30pm:



This is true, I make my kids wear floaties 24/7 for this very reason, and they`re between the ages of 37 & 22.  I think this should be compulsory.

Maybe someone should explain to him that Guy Fawkes was a political anarchist and that this is the politics thread.

Where else do you put political comments.....hang on, dont answer that!!!


bwaaaahaaaa

codswal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2010 at 8:52am:


You assumed that this thread would be moved Cods, clearly thats not happened.

I can see several other categories, where this thread would more properly redise!

That said, I don't necessarily believe that moving threads is warranted, but if that is what the owner of the site (FD) wants, then that's also fine.

So long as he is consistent, which he is not! FD moved somethings out of his pet area (Politics Suck), which are certainly related to Politics, then leaves other threads, such as this one, which have a tenuous link, at best.

I suspect the main problem with all of this is that MOZZ has gone AWOL and FD spends most of his time here on the fishing thread.
I've noticed the other global mod,LOC has been coming in on a daily basis, but LOC tends to let most things go, which is good in most instances, but when you have a troll/fruitcake like meeeelie/ticfin defecating all over the forum at their will the forum will die a sad lonely death, like all the other forums the loonie has destroyed.

You know....if you dont like the thread, you dont have to contribute to it, nor read it.

tickfen wrote on Nov 5^th, 2010 at 12:02pm:


He was part of a Catholic plot to overthrow the Protestant king James I.  Robert Catesby was the ring leader, but Guy Fawkes was the one found with the explosives.

The Catholics of the time would argue that those who supported the Church of England under Henry VIII and Elizabeth I were the  real anarchists.

James I reigned as king of Great Britain and Ireland in 1603 with the Union of the Crowns. He had been king of Scotland for the previous 35 years as James VI. In November 1605, the first English parliament of James I was about to sit.

So Guy Fawkes night was a kind of anti-Catholic demonstration. The holiday started as a kind of religious celebration from 1606 onwards as a celebration of the victory of Protestantism.

In 1673, there was a ritual burning of the "Whore of Babylon" which was dressed up with papal symbols to represent the pope, so  that tradition of burning "the pope" continued on to this day in Britain.

Guy Fawkes himself was sentenced to be hung drawn and quartered. He jumped from the scaffold to break his neck to spare himself from the planned torture of parts 2 and 3.

Guy Fawkes was a political activist/anarchist.
Where should political comments be situated then, if not within Politics?


Or are you just trying to cause trouble again?

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 6^th, 2010 at 8:46am:



just had the very same thought pc..I am shocked its still here otherwise I wouldnt have said what I said.. maybe someone has to elert FD..who knows.maybe in a good free thinking mood!!! maybe its his day off.anyway I dont expect it to last much longer

This is a political thread and this is the political section dearie


bwaaaahaaaaa

Where’s the Fire(works)? – Part Two
Meegan Cornforth | 05 November 2010

Remember, remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason
That gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.

Today is the anniversary of the infamous 1605 plot to blow up the British Houses of Parliament and, with them, King James I of England. Although the assassination attempt was thwarted, it remains one of history’s most commemorated events.

Throughout Britain, and in parts of the Commonwealth, the foiling of the plot is celebrated each year on Guy Fawkes Night with effigies of the head conspirator burned on festive bonfires. An attempt to rectify decades of religious state intolerance towards Catholics, the plot was unquestionably an act of terrorism – prompted by unendurable government interference in the private lives of its citizens.

Last week in Ideas@theCentre, in a milder and less explosive form of protest against government control, we asked for reader suggestions regarding illiberal and intrusive laws in Australia that need amending. Among the complaints were:

    * Obligatory bike helmets (the most common comment).

    * Council permission (naturally with an with attendant application fee) for tree removal or pruning on private property.

    * Restrictions on day care providers – where previously 'a woman up the street looked after our kids,' all childcare providers must now be qualified and expensive professionals.

    * Child car seat legislation. Given that the majority of parents 'care about the safety of our children, why is it that governments think it necessary to pass laws that force parents to buy expensive seats and limit the options they have for accommodating children in vehicles?' And what happens when a situation arises where there is the need to transport an additional child? Without having access to an extra government-approved seat, 'do we leave the (other) family in the lurch or do we break the law?'

    * Restrictions on home handyman jobs such as basic plumbing, roofing and electrical work.

    * Restrictions on property owners personally handling eviction and debt collection matters.

    * 'Draconian land tax on aggregate value' that impedes property owners and investors.

    * Privacy laws that restrict family members from assisting each other with phone or electricity accounts, small-dollar-amount credit card queries, etc.

    * The addition of fluoride into public water supplies

    * And, perhaps the most interesting regulation, the Victorian Council of Whitehorse’s recent cat curfew requiring all domestic cats to be locked indoors between 8pm and 6am every day. According to an article in local paper, the Whitehorse Leader, ‘Whitehorse will employ a new, full-time staff member to administer the program and spend $9,000 on 30 cat traps.’ In addition, non-compliance will result in a $119 fine, so residents had best make sure they adhere to a curfew themselves and are home each night in good time to put kitty to bed.

Given that pyrotechnic displays are synonymous with Guy Fawkes Night, the ban on the sale of fireworks should also be mentioned. Children and teenagers might not be mature enough to handle fireworks responsibly, but should this warrant the prohibition of cracker and Catherine wheel sales to adults? Unsurprisingly, the total ban has now resulted in a thriving and potentially dangerous black market.

Perhaps tonight we should reconsider what we need to toss into the bonfire: a Guy Fawkes effigy or all the petty, controlling and counterproductive government regulations that intrude into our private lives.

Meegan Cornforth is Events Manager at The Centre for Independent Studies.

Click here to read Where’s the Fire? – Part One http://www.cis.org.au/publications/ideasthecentre/article/2236-wheres-the-fire

skippy. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2010 at 9:57am:



dippy, you must have handed in some awesome assignments during your majority in silliness.

On the subject of Guy Fawkes, I received an email containing an extract from this bizarre article: -

http://www.cis.org.au/publications/ideasthecentre/article/2244-wheres-the-firewo...

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