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500 Nursing Graduatese Left Without A Career Path.
Oct 26th, 2010 at 7:48am
 
500 University nursing graduates left without a career path


HALF the state's graduating nurses will not get positions with SA Health next year, figures show.

SA Health chief executive Tony Sherbon said they would offer about 510 places in 2011, compared with 601 this year. SA Health has confirmed 1050 nurses will graduate from the state's universities.

Australian Nursing and Midwifery state secretary Elizabeth Dabars said that was a big drop in the proportion of nurses being hired, and called on SA Health to at least offer "transition to professional practice" or graduate programs to more nurses and midwives.

"What they're projecting is they'll take on about 50 per cent of the graduate intake," she said, adding that it was crucial nurses had the chance to convert their theoretical knowledge to practical applications.



Dr Sherbon said the number of graduates varied each year depending on the positions available. He said fewer nurses and midwives were leaving the public sector, so there were fewer positions available.

"In 2011, SA Health expects to offer approximately 510 graduates places, compared to 601 in 2010, 470 in 2009 and 509 in 2008," he said.

"It is important to strike a balance between meeting the current staffing requirements while ensuring that the future needs are also catered for, and SA Health continues to monitor workforce and training requirements."

Ms Dabars said this would lead to "major problems" further down the track once workforce shortages bite.

"We've got this projected workforce shortfall and if we don't actually pick these people up, help them transition, embrace them into the system ... once the senior nurses and midwives leave, our concern is if you don't provide for their employment now, we're going to leave ourselves in a situation where we've got major problems," she said.

Community and private organisations are likely to hire a significant number of those nurses and midwives the public sector says it does not need.

The Royal District Nursing Service of SA is reinventing itself to respond to growing need. They will expand to offer more government-funded services and support for private patients.

RDNS chief executive Dale Cleaver said they will need more nurses as well as allied health practitioners to meet demand. "We're building on an iconic SA community service to an even greater one that provides a broader range of services to a broader range of clients," he said.



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     Dean McQuillan of Findon Posted at 12:35 AM Today

         What more can I say about mismanaement at State level...weare crying out for trained staff and WHAT there are no jobs ? .... OHHHH you wanted experienced and trained staff....but ca,'t get experience because we are training ? sounds like a broken system of excuses...another state government economic lie based upon the lack of funds because of wastage ? So much for forward planning etc...anyone rember that sound about the "ship of fools", well for the past 8 years we have been experienceing just that. I can not believe our brightess educated minds in government have alowed this mess to be created unless its polloies WITH NO IDEA WHATSOEVER in charge.....hang on that sounds like Media Mike, Kev. Foley and Co. ? Does anyone know how some-one with common sense can get a job in governemnt ? I would apply straight away , however I notice they often look for YES men instead of what's it about bloke's and more importantl
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Reply #1 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 7:52am
 
Strange that this can happen, in this country of so called low unemployment, and with so called plenty of jobs out there, is it not?.
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Reply #2 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:13am
 
Strange you think?

No, because they have culled the tertiary qualified registered nurse to patient ratio, and put lesser qualified tafe-trained AINS's and EN's in their place because they are cheaper, though sadly compromise client care.

My daughter was triaged by a EN up at our local hospital a few months back, (for a hurt wrist), when despite ibuprofen being a notorious contraindication for asthmatics, (especially severe ones like my daughter) she preceded to hand my daughter to Nurophen (ibuprofen) irrespective of my daughters medical history being in her chart.

I asked her what she was doing, and she said, giving your daughter pain relief.

I advised Ibuprofen is a contraindication with asthmatics, she recoiled and scurried back to the nurses station, before asking me if I had medical training.

Yes, I was a university trained RN, before leaving the profession to take care of my daughter who is autistic, this and pursue another career path. Glad I did.

Smiley

Fortnightly rosters don't work too well with autistic kids, due to a lack of special-needs placements in childcare centres, pre-schools and before and after-school child care centres especially.



What they are doing is giving EN's 'extra powers' so they can assume more responsibility and duties of RN's.

Likewise with GP's ...as they are offering courses to more and more RNs to specialise and become 'practice nurses'  or 'nurse practitioners' of which are essentially, budget cut GP's being sent to rural and impoverished areas.


When I did my training, you stood a better chance of getting a job immediately post-grad as a nursing university gradate, in-fact, your post-grad placements ensured you a place unless you chose to do it alone for at least 12 months.


Now, Tafe trained EN's and AINS from India and Uganda are all the rage, as they work for peanuts and permanent residency, so don't mind wiping azzes for the minimal wage for a few years before gaining permanent residency.

It's disgusting, they should refund their uni-fees...when they know they are knowingly exploiting these students for tertiary funding.

Most my friends I studied with have emigrated, are nursing in the UK or Canada.

Those who had children, or commitments here in Australia, have actually gone on to work in allied professions, more or less used their bachelor of nursing degrees as a spring-board into other professions, and further study as I have.


Pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys.

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Reply #3 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:19am
 
Speaking of which, I shall return at a later time, have some more revision to do before another exam early next week.

Smiley Cheers
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Reply #4 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 10:11am
 
Once again I find myself agreeing with everything you have said.  Back in 2005, my sister in law was a registered RN working in a nursing home, and became so completely dissatisfied with the medical profession, that she also now used her degree as a stepping stone to a new career.  She actually worked her way through nursing by starting as an A.I.N then to an EN then to an RN, so she has seen all side from a nursing perspective.

She finished her degree in Gerontology last year, as is now a Diversional Therapist. 

She was excited when the fraudulent Kevin 07 proclaimed he would take over the hospital systems if the States didn’t manage their medical responsibilities correctly.  She voted for him on this one issue, but stated after Kevin 07’s massive back-flip on hospital take over’s that she would never vote for the ALP again.

It goes back to what I have said earlier about Australia being a stupid country. The medical industry cries out for additional nurses, and when the nurses finish their degrees they cannot find work because they then find their jobs and responsibilities have been down graded and taken over by EN’s or A.I.N,s.   Most of the EN and A.I.N jobs are given to foreign imports willing to work for any money in any condition.  Using this analogy, Australia is going backwards not forwards.
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Reply #5 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 10:36am
 
Good Post Mellie.

I worked as an AiN for over a decade.
I have been lucky to work with some really 'old guard' nurses (they look like they belong in the CWA) who learned via the more practical approach of Training 'within' the Hospitals. They were really good with much common sense, personality and efficient methods without short-cutting due to either budget or laziness.
I've worked in many areas in the Health System and for an AiN, I did pretty well.

To me, I find that Assitant (in) Nursing is a great job.
My siblings went for Barwork but I found AiN more enjoyable and I managed to take it far for what it could offer.
It can be seen as an "Associated Job" like barwork, cleaning and waitering, amongst others ...low pay, flexible hours, casual rates, etc.
It can also be seen as an "Apprenticeship".
Saying this, I believe it should be structured as such much like most trades (trialed in one State at least ...?) with 3 years AiN Apprenticeship then onto Registered Nurse.
Why?
Well as an AiN, I found myself in many a Hospital having to show RN students "Basic Nursing Care". Like all University students - there is a 80% lack of practical skills and sometimes 'common sense' skills, I even experienced RN students refusing to "bedwash" because it was 'beneath' the RN rank Huh Maybe this is why Nursing is become so (physcially) "hard" these days? They are just not prepared for it.
Even the 'Old Guard' can see this.
By making AiN a 3 year Apprenticeship, it brings about a strong 'practical' approach and "Basic" Nursing Care skills.
It also introduces AiN as a 'supportive' financial role to Univeristy Study for Registered Nursing as I have experienced many RN Students working on the side outside of the medical field  Roll Eyes I guess these Students do RN as a precursor to another Degree that they couldn't get into or use RN to get into another industry besides the Medical (like Airline Steward to name one)?
Such an Apprenticeship and Supporting Role that AiN can offer would swell employee numbers considerable.

I find E.N a total waste of input and for a while, everybody was doing E.N rather than AiN or RN ...because the TAFE Fees were considerably lower/cheaper than Uni. The TAFE's offered "employment" automatically and I think at a higher rate than AiN. You got paid more like an RN although your duties were mostly akin to AiN give or take the odd "pill" distribution cert.
EN had swelled the Middle-Class considerably and last I heard was that they were trying to stop EN getting PAID while studying or something otherwise ???
I also believe that the Medical Industry should be running its own show and not out-sourcing to the Universities who's real priority is just "paperwork" (and I saw the difference between Uni Artists and TAFE artists - Uni Artists knew a lot about Van Gogh, but TAFE Artists just got on with the job and painted their own thing).
Australian Medical Industry has TWO-THIRDS MORE PAPERWORK than any other nation.  Roll Eyes
Sadly the Public Medical System is a Political System (Think of Parliment House with a room called "Sick Bay") and the Private, although showing more Pro-Medical Independence than the Public is an absolute RORT for what little it offers. Angry

I think Medics should stop running to Unions and going on strike ...and form their own Independent Medical expression with Medicine the priority rather than Accountancy and Politics.  Wink

Forget the constant payrises (RN's can earn up to $100 per hour  Huh so much for being "underpaid"  Roll Eyes) as they just go into 'pockets' and not results and this is what is happening there are no positive results from positive policies or advancements, etc. Everyone is getting a payrise upon a ship that is rusting.

Also, being the HEALTH industry - I'm kinda disgusted by the amount of Staff who practice 'unhealthy' recreational substance abuse like Drugs and alcohol. Of all the Industries, these acts are the most hypocritic and must be addressed and it is also these Medical Staff that shout the loudest for a payrise because the work is too hard (extra money for their fags).

These are just some of the things I find when I worked in what I call, 3rd World Medical that follows the advice of two nations that are more apt at winning WARS (USA/UK) - just because they speak the same language ("Hello - a lot of other nations can speak English too! Roll Eyes).
Personally, I think Australia should be medically following Switzerland for starters, with possibly Sweden, Germany, Cuba and New Zealand to follow - to name some.

until then.
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Reply #6 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 12:10pm
 
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Oh Im sure that these young nubile nurses will excell in selling on the private market their skills in sponge baths techniques. Even at the old folks homes!
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Reply #7 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 12:12pm
 
Besides they have to keep the intake low else the various state govts wouldn't then be able to offer positions for overseas nurses...from India, Pakistan etc!
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tickfen wrote on Oct 26th, 2010 at 12:10pm:
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Oh Im sure that these young nubile nurses will excell in selling on the private market their skills in sponge baths techniques. Even at the old folks homes!



Or my place.
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Reply #9 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 7:28pm
 
Grin and its those nubile young nurses that ask me to do a swap and send me and all my manly fur to come ruffle dirty old men like yourselves who can't get any action in a conventional manner Grin
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Reply #10 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 7:57pm
 
Hmmmmph! You`ve been reading my mail. Shocked
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