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The Strategic Stuff Ups Of Howard, Bush, Blair.
Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:51pm
 
John Howard grossly mismanaged Afghan war, says Bob Brown


GREENS leader Bob Brown has blamed the drawn out conflict in Afghanistan on the "strategic stuff ups" of John Howard, George Bush and Tony Blair.

In a speech during the parliamentary debate on the war in Afghanistan, Senator Brown accused the trio of gross mismanagement and strategic errors which ensured the continuation of the war and a failure to capture Osama Bin Laden.

He also slammed former prime minister John Howard and former US president George W Bush of making a “strategic stuff up” by turning their attention from Afghanistan to the war in Iraq.

And he suggested Mr Howard was at fault for sticking too closely to the United States.

“John Howard’s role as Deputy Sherriff… cannot be forgotten or disregarded,” he said.

“Our troops are fighting in Afghanistan in 2010 because Bush, Howard and others like Tony Blair grossly mismanaged their international ascendancy in 2001-3,” he added.



Senator Brown also suggested that if Osama Bin Laden and the “medieval Taliban leader” Mullah Omar had been captured following the September 11 attack, the war would have been prevented.

“Let no one forget there remains well founded conjecture that if president George Bush continued negotiating with Mullah Omar back in 2001, Omar would still be in Kabul but would have captured and delivered Osama Bin Laden to America at that time.

“Or had the Americans been willing, Bin Laden reportedly could have been delivered to a third country for trial even earlier.

"That would have made this whole bloody conflict unnecessary."

Senator Brown again called on Julia Gillard to bring Australian troops home, saying it was the responsibility to ensure Australian service men and women were taken out of harm’s way.

He attacked the Prime Minister’s extension of the Australian engagement with the war torn nation for another decade.

“This belated debate has drawn out the commitment of Prime Minister Gillard and Opposition Leader Abbott to years more. The Prime Minister flagged as many as 10 more years for Australian personnel in Afghanistan.

“Yet the Netherlands after a much more detailed and engaged parliamentary debate and a change of government at the national election have now taken its troops home. Canada is to follow suit.

“The Greens believe Australia should also bring its troops home. Twenty-one Australian diggers have already died. How many more will die?"
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Reply #1 - Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:53pm
 
Vote 1 - Australian Greens.  The fair and sensible people.
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Reply #2 - Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:55pm
 
LOL.  I'm no fan of the conflicts we're caught in, but Bob Brown offering advice on warfare?  really?????????
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Reply #3 - Oct 25th, 2010 at 6:47pm
 
... wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:55pm:
LOL.  I'm no fan of the conflicts we're caught in, but Bob Brown offering advice on warfare?  really?????????


Yeah, ok... you're right. The Bush brigade are a much better bet  Undecided
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Reply #4 - Oct 25th, 2010 at 7:45pm
 
jame-e wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
... wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:55pm:
LOL.  I'm no fan of the conflicts we're caught in, but Bob Brown offering advice on warfare?  really?????????


Yeah, ok... you're right. The Bush brigade are a much better bet  Undecided



Ronald Mc Donald is a better bet than Bob Brownknob.
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Reply #5 - Oct 25th, 2010 at 8:14pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 7:45pm:
jame-e wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
... wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:55pm:
LOL.  I'm no fan of the conflicts we're caught in, but Bob Brown offering advice on warfare?  really?????????


Yeah, ok... you're right. The Bush brigade are a much better bet  Undecided



Ronald Mc Donald is a better bet than Bob Brownknob.


Cheeseburger bombs, i like it Smiley. I'd much prefer a fat Iraqi kid to a dead one.
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Reply #6 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:01am
 
I find it interesting Bob blames strategic errors of Bush, Blair and Howard, considering those strategic directions were not divised by them.

Thats the easy thing about hindsight isnt it, everyone becomes an expert.

Considering Bobs stragety was not go there in the first place, I dont see doing nothing as a solution to the UN backed intervention.
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Reply #7 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:36am
 
Verge wrote on Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I find it interesting Bob blames strategic errors of Bush, Blair and Howard, considering those strategic directions were not divised by them.

Thats the easy thing about hindsight isnt it, everyone becomes an expert.

Considering Bobs stragety was not go there in the first place, I dont see doing nothing as a solution to the UN backed intervention.



Brown is a wind vane.  Bob Brown would say anything to get in the limelight, this clown knows nothing but whining and bickering, he`s never done anything but whine in his entire wasted life.

Strategy? Military tactics?  This clown is ignorant in these fields of expertise also.  Bob Brown doesn`t even know who to attribute these decisions to?

The Greens - bunches of dunces.
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Reply #8 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:38am
 
jame-e wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 8:14pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 7:45pm:
jame-e wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
... wrote on Oct 25th, 2010 at 5:55pm:
LOL.  I'm no fan of the conflicts we're caught in, but Bob Brown offering advice on warfare?  really?????????


Yeah, ok... you're right. The Bush brigade are a much better bet  Undecided



Ronald Mc Donald is a better bet than Bob Brownknob.


Cheeseburger bombs, i like it Smiley. I'd much prefer a fat Iraqi kid to a dead one.



Pork roll carpet bombing.
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Reply #9 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 7:51pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:36am:
Verge wrote on Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I find it interesting Bob blames strategic errors of Bush, Blair and Howard, considering those strategic directions were not divised by them.

Thats the easy thing about hindsight isnt it, everyone becomes an expert.

Considering Bobs stragety was not go there in the first place, I dont see doing nothing as a solution to the UN backed intervention.



Brown is a wind vane.  Bob Brown would say anything to get in the limelight, this clown knows nothing but whining and bickering, he`s never done anything but whine in his entire wasted life.

Strategy? Military tactics?  This clown is ignorant in these fields of expertise also.  Bob Brown doesn`t even know who to attribute these decisions to?

The Greens - bunches of dunces.


Whos better?
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Reply #10 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:01pm
 
Although in the Greens, didn't Bob Brown serve some time (like a criminal for the UK/USA) in the Military - with action?

Also, John Howard was George Bush's favourite little "superman".
Ah yes, the Anglo-Saxon Empire in full swing.
And I wonder if Blair's seige on Zimbabwe is still starving milllions of his supporters who don't support Mugabe and his efforts?
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Thank god for the United Nations.
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I kinda liked this, speaks volumes about our political process.

Please excuse the language

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Where do we go from here?
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Reply #13 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:01pm
 
Verge wrote on Oct 26th, 2010 at 8:34pm:
I kinda liked this, speaks volumes about our political process.

Please excuse the language

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On to the next War,
On to the next abused alter boy,
on to the next degree of warming,
On to the next phase of succesive government failures,
On and on and on.

When i was younger, i got slapped in the face alot.
One day i decided to change from "want a root" to, "Hello".
Root-slap ratio significantly improved.
Since... I have learned to apply the principle to many aspects of my life  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:47pm
 
Bob Brown condemned the war from the start and was not sucked in by drawings of trucks with chemical labs.....stories from people who were tortured and information that was already discredited before the invasion.....in retrospect Bob Brown was correct all along!!!

How were we to know we were being fed a pile of crap when the Coalition of the killing were telling us there was no alternative.....because there is always an alternative to war!!!

You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), (attributed)

War was always the only option for the Conservatives.....there was never any attempt to find another way to deal with a small group of extremists.....killing on mass was there solution to everything!!!

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