Quote:You know Abu .. I'm beginning to think there is something seriously deficient in your cognitive reasoning area ..
Coming from you that's not much of an insult. You ain't the sharpest tool in the shed it seems.
Quote:1) You have learned nothing even after everyone on here condemned your Islam based views on child beating and wife beating
So far the only religious-based views I've seen mentioned on these forums are those muso posted from the Bible. I shall re-quote them for clarity:
Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Proverbs 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Proverbs 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.So you approve of beating a child with a rod, so long as it doesn't quite kill him? Instill in him a bit of wisdom will it and avert him from foolishness...
I'm sorry but the Qur'an teaches no such thing, and neither have I. Your botched attempts to sensationalise my statements have only worked on a few of the more feeble minded forummers, most have seen them for what they were.
Nowhere did I ever state beating/abusing a child is right, I'll leave that up to your 'holy' book.
Quote:2) You are NOW attempting to both backpeddle..
The only reason you misidentify my statements as backpeddling is because you failed to actually read my initial statements.
In your rush to sensationalise them, create posts dedicated to them, and then link frantically to them in every thread you're involved in, you actually forgot to read them... Nowhere did I ever claim it's good to beat a child.
Quote:Hitting need not be abusive. Parents often hit their children to discipline them, and it's usually not abusive, even when it causes bruising sometimes. stated by Abu - Oct 14th, 2010, 6:56pm:
And I'm sure most sane, rational, thinking forummers here agree that a disciplinary smack is sometimes necessary when raising kids. The only reason I mentioned bruising is because as a child my parents sometimes caused minor bruising when smacking, yet it was quite obvious they never intended it to be so, and it was not in an abusive manner, but a corrective one. And I'm sure for many others the experience has been the same, probably even for you yourself. Enough of the hype and overdone reactions... please, and let's get back to reality.
Quote:The full text is in that link .. and it doesn't look good for you given you used..
You're seriously off your rocker if you think you've created some kind of
"thread of shame" there. Honestly, wake up to yourself.
Quote:Parents often hit their children to discipline them, and it's usually not abusive, even when it causes bruising sometimes.
An indication of just how un-powerful this quote really is, you had to repeat it only a few lines later, in order to re-hash it's supposed effectiveness.
Quote:And you have asserted for months now that YOUR view is ISLAM's view because it was based on the KORAN
Nevermind my view of the Qur'an (which doesn't speak about beating kids with rods), how about you tell us your view of the Bible, and specifically the passages from Proverbs above? After all, you claimed to be an expert on the Bible did you not? So please tell us all about beating kids with rods, so it doesn't cause death of course.
Quote:It's both sad and pathetic to see that you still can't reconcile the fact that these views have no place in Australia and not only that .. they break the law here in Australia.
They do no such thing.
Quote:Lastly .. your latest posts reveal the utter turmoil and confusion in your mind...
Well at least there's a mind here to be confused and in utter turmoil, more than can be said for some.