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Reply #15 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 5:20pm

... wrote on Oct 18^th, 2010 at 4:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2010 at 4:53pm:

... wrote on Oct 18^th, 2010 at 4:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2010 at 4:13pm:

... wrote on Oct 18^th, 2010 at 4:07pm:

Did anyone really think that hundreds of years of polluting, combined with the decreasing quality of food, and increasing use of synthetic substances wouldn't affect us sooner or later?

just to repeat... The egyptians made it to an average of 28. only 100 years ago the average life expectacy for men was 67. now it is 87 or more.

our technology has its problems, but life expectancy is NOT one of them.

Seeveral million young men were killed early this century by war. That's bound to reduce the average life expectancy substantially. Add in the infant mortality rate of the day, and the current practise of keeping peopel alive for no reason, and you realise that overall, we're not living much longer at all. One could also make the case that the quality of the extended life span is not too crash hot.

A) there were twice as many killed in war in the SECOND half of the century as well.

B) infant mortality IS part of the life expectency equation. and even when you remove that from the calculation the result is stil the same that our life expectacny is vastly higher.

C) keeping people alive for no reason? I guess you mean no reason to YOU. did it ever occur to you that perhaps these people WANT to live??

D) the quality of extended life may not be as good as you might want it but it still exceeds the standard of life for the vast majority of people who have ever lived on this planet.

In other words, if you want to die young, go for it. the rest of us are actaulyl quite fond of LIVING and living to a great age.

Don't take it personal longy, but it'd be the height of stupidity to think we can expose ourselves to all manner of unnatural substances and radiations and there not be any downside at all. Whether you think that overall it's been worth it or not, surely you can't think that there is no downside? Or can you....?

What I am saying is that despite the pollution and all the other points you make - which are accurate - life expectancy is VASTLY higher now than it was as recently as 200 years ago. IM not sure you'd find many sane people willing to swap places with those who came before where a tooth abcess killed and minor illnesses killed millions.

I'll take the pollution and the radioactivity along with the high standard of living as well as its length anytime thanks!

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41432 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Cancer is Purely Man Made Reply #16 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 6:01pm I'll take the pollution and the radioactivity along with the high standard of living as well as its length anytime thanks! ____________ you will be taking all this junk with you when you leave this planet bon voyage -:)
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Reply #17 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 6:15pm

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2010 at 5:58am:

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Dismissing the argument that the ancient Egyptians didn't live long enough to develop cancer, the researchers pointed out that other age-related disease such as hardening of the arteries and brittle bones died occur.

Not exactly sound logic there. They are admitting that the egyptians didn't live long enough, but insisting that cancer should happen at a younger age just because those other diseases do.

The excess of modern life that causes most cancer is life itself.

Exactly right. The major cause of cancer is smoking tobacco. The Ancient Egyptians didn't smoke tobacco, but even if they did, the average life expectancy would mean that they had a very low risk of developing cancer in that short time.

The animals which live near Chernobyl is a case in point. There is practically zero incidence of cancer precisely because wildlife doesn't live long enough.

I wonder how many mummies they examined to come to that conclusion, and if it's a statistically valid number to make assertions about the Ancient Egyptian population as a whole.

The conclusions do seem shoddy, but then we'd need to see the original paper with the journalistic hype excised.

Here's New Scientist's take on the study:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19591-briefing-cancer-is-not-a-disease-of-...

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"In men today, 90 per cent of cancers occur after 50," he says. "So if you examined the bodies of 1000 modern men who died before 50, you wouldn't find many cancers either."

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One of the main arguments for cancer being an affliction of modernisation was the apparent lack of evidence for "common" bone cancers in children. But again, the figures don't bear this out. "It's true it's a relatively common cancer, but even still it only affects 1 in 10,000 children," Schüz says. "So even if you have 10,000 childhood mummies, you'd be lucky to find one."

Very shoddy work.

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Reply #18 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 6:40pm

Cancer is simply cellular change, of which deviate from normal cellar growth, this and becomes invasive.

Cancer isn't man-made as such, it's the natural order of things, and plenty of naturally occurring environmental carcinogens can result in changes to a cells DNA.

Plenty of naturally occurring rocks and minerals commonly found deep within our earth's soil, and sometimes not so deep are often radioactive, contain a degree of radiation, this and are known to result in changes to cells in excessive quantities, or due to frequent exposure. I had a rather radioactive rock collection (still do though the offending rocks are now kept in the garage) as a child, which I had no idea at the time was a tad radioactive....until a few weeks after I got them.

Whilst it's true, in modern times we humans are bringing more of these chemical elements into our immediate environments, due to the industrialisation of civilisation and so forth, cells are rather interesting things, this and are adaptable also, forever adapting to ones own environment, ie, it's/suspected that an X-rays might have caused severe radiation poisoning and imminent death on Neanderthal man, this and the exposure to cell-altering chemicals and other substances may have indeed contributed to modern-day man's longevity in some cases.

As you know, not so long ago man used to eat dirt, ground up rocks medicinally, (some people/animals still do), which some believe is their body craving iron or a number of other essential minerals.

Now we know cancers are treated with a number of deemed-lethal chemicals, elements, ie chemo and radiation therapy, with substances such as plant alkaloids, polonium, radium, substances we would normally regard quite toxic when we are otherwise well.

Cancer isn't a disease in it's own right, it's an abnormal, or invasive growth, change in cells, so to suggest man causes his own cancer, when in fact, any number of naturally occurring elements,lifestyle factors, genetics etc could have triggered it,is pretty short sighted.

Also, sometimes cells just spontaneously change of their own accord, then change back again and we still don't know why.

In some cases, yes man does contribute to his own exposure, either knowingly, (smoking, working around harmful chemicals) , but not always...

Try to relax, and not think too much on it.

Hey, you gotta die of something, and whilst I agree, we need to start taking better care of our environment, I wouldn't go so far as to say we are killing off our species, because if this were the case, our lifespan would be decreasing, not increasing.

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Reply #19 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 6:49pm

Cancer is Purely Man Made

man makes weaponized bacteria and so on in military labs.

the excrecia from these bacteria is aspartame,

it just so happens to be sweet.

so guess what the powers that be do...

they put this in most sweets for your dear children

research 955,915 sweetner aspartame for yourself

yes your government loves you

they put this in diet coke and other drinks as well,

all chewing gum has this as well..this creates pathogens which in turn

creates cancer

namaste

enjoy

-:)

« Last Edit: Oct 18^th, 2010 at 7:53pm by it_is_the_light »

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Cancer is Purely Man Made Reply #20 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 7:01pm nutjob.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29706 Gender:	Re: Cancer is Purely Man Made Reply #21 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 8:49pm God created cancer because God plans all births and deaths which meant that God must have planned deaths by cancer LOL
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41432 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Cancer is Purely Man Made Reply #22 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 6:04am GOD/PRIME CREATOR has no responsibility to the freewill HE has given unto you dear souls man has created all the problems you see on your world this dear mother earth is PERFECT man has been hoodwinked into believing dogma and doctrine delivered by the freemasonic despots and so it is namaste -:)
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Reply #23 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 7:42am

There can be a number of right answers to the issue of Cancer.
There doesn't have to be just one, nor is there.
Mellie is right as well. A lot of 'natural' materials can bring about Cancer. You can even get Cancer from the Sun if you think you can get an Aboriginal Tan at Bondi by turning yourself over like a silly sausage in a day for what took the Abos 40,000 years to achieve (being originally Caucasoid).

My philosophy though, here in a very isolating Australia, is that a Cold & Flu are good for you - helps build your immunity up and help keep something worse away, like Cancer.

Teflon in cooking pans etc, was found to be a major contributer to Cancer growth in the USA after extensive research. It has since been banned. Baby Bottles recently have been banned in Australia because of something similar.
Dropped toxic waste in a Tasmanian Lake was the culprit to the surge of Cancer in people and Tasmanian Devils as the Toxicity filtered down the environmental system and food chain. The Aust (Howard ...who always hated Tasmania) Govt knew about this and was partially responsible.
NewZealand still does 1080 drops to rid the land of Possums, Stoats, etc ...although banned everywhere else, the 1080 still continues to pollute the waterways and food chains of NZ.
Sydney harbour, although much cleaner these past 10 years, still has high levels of metal traces in the the fish and the fishermen that frequent there.
Chenobyl - people who still reside there have incredibly low immunities that have left most of em 'sterile' by the second generation along with the associated deformaties and abnormalities of growth. End of the line after a few generations that survive.

Take up Conservation and starve the Cancer! Wink

why be a victim for a Medic like a Criminal for a Cop.

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Reply #24 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 10:23am

http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/cancer-chemical-found-at-gas-site/story-e...

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At this stage the APLNG has no idea what caused the Btex, a hydrocarbon that does occur naturally - a mixture of benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene - but it could not discount the chemical being contained in lubricants.

What a bunch of geniuses. Grin

Somebody should tell them that BTEX occurs naturally in crude oil and coal, that petrol contains about 3% benzene (much more than a trace), and about 36% BTEX overall. Grin

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Cancer is Purely Man Made Reply #25 - Oct 20^th, 2010 at 10:54pm The African Bush Willow, when applied to someone with a Cancer, can knock the Cancer out or stop it in its tracks like a coma for anything up to 3 months. Its highly recommended that your Doctor gets on top of this window of opportunity ASAP.
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LB New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5	Re: Cancer is Purely Man Made Reply #26 - Oct 21^st, 2010 at 3:19am I think your comparing apples and oranges. Obviously during their time there life was shortened do to what was going on during their time and the food during their time. We live to 80s based on what is going on during our time. You can't compare. ___________________ Logan
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Reply #27 - Oct 21^st, 2010 at 6:44am

Teflon in cooking pans etc, was found to be a major contributer to Cancer growth in the USA after extensive research. It has since been banned. Baby Bottles recently have been banned in Australia because of something similar.
Dropped toxic waste in a Tasmanian Lake was the culprit to the surge of Cancer in people and Tasmanian Devils as the Toxicity filtered down the environmental system and food chain. The Aust (Howard ...who always hated Tasmania) Govt knew about this and was partially responsible.
NewZealand still does 1080 drops to rid the land of Possums, Stoats, etc ...although banned everywhere else, the 1080 still continues to pollute the waterways and food chains of NZ.
Sydney harbour, although much cleaner these past 10 years, still has high levels of metal traces in the the fish and the fishermen that frequent there.
Chenobyl - people who still reside there have incredibly low immunities that have left most of em 'sterile' by the second generation along with the associated deformaties and abnormalities of growth. End of the line after a few generations that survive.

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you think this and wars and 9/11 were accidents?

oh ok...

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Reply #28 - Oct 21^st, 2010 at 6:47am

The African Bush Willow, when applied to someone with a Cancer, can knock the Cancer out or stop it in its tracks like a coma for anything up to 3 months. Its highly recommended that your Doctor gets on top of this window of opportunity ASAP.

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American Biologics in Mexico
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http://www.apricot-seeds.com/ - Our Father's Farm in Canada
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KEMSA in Mexico at 800-851-9470 or www.kemsa.com, but they do not ship to the U.S. You have to go and pick up the product in Mexico
Bio Research at 800-291-1508
International Antiaging Systems in Great Britain - www.smart-drugs.com (You can go to their ordering information page for information or in the U.S. fax 310-388-1072)
American Biologics in Mexico
http://www.vitaminb17.de
http://www.credence.freeserve.co.uk in the United Kingdom sells kernels and laetrile outside of the United States only
If you hear of others sources, or if you find out these sources no longer make kernels or laetrile available, you can leave a message with us at webmaster@cancure.org.

In addition, there are many foods that contain Vitamin B17. These include: Apple seeds, alfalfa sprouts, apricot kernels, bamboo shoots, barley, beet tops, bitter almond, blackberries, boysenberries, brewer’s yeast, brown rice, buckwheat, cashews, cherry kernels, cranberries, currants, fava beans, flax seeds, garbanzo beans, gooseberries, huckleberries, lentils, lima beans, linseed meat, loganberries, macadamia nuts, millet, millet seed, peach kernels, pecans, plum kernels, quince, raspberries, sorghum cane syrup, spinach, sprouts (alfalfa, lentil, mung bean, buckwheat, garbanzo), strawberries, walnuts, watercress, yams.

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Advanced Medicine & Research Center - may be closed
American Biologics in Mexico - temporarily closed
American Metabolics in Mexico - temporarily closed
Dr. Beals in Maryland - (301) 490-9911
Dr. Brodie in Nevada www.drbrodie.com 775-829-1009
Dr. Briggs in Montana - 701-838-6011
Dr. Callebout in London England 011 44 207 2 55 2232
Dr. Castillo in Mexico - http://www.translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.drcastillo.com/index%20es.html - 800-296-9881
Center for Natural Medicine in Mexico - may be closed
CHIPSA in Mexico - 800-573-9720
Dove Clinic for Integrated Medicine in the UK. http://www.doveclinic.com
Harold Manner in Mexico - temporarily closed
Hans Nieper Clinic (confirming info) 011-49-511-348-08-08
IMS in Atlanta Georgia (770) 474-4029
Joseph Brenna in Israel - 972-3-5467733
Hospital Bajanor in Mexico - www.bajanor.com. 1-888-294-0342
LifeExtension in Nevada http://www.aacancer.com 775-324-5700

Oasis - Dr. Contreras in Mexico - 888-500-4673
Dr. Rizov in Austin, TX - (512) 451-8149
Dr. Schachter in NY (845) 368-4700 www.mbschachter.com
Stella Maris in Mexico - 800-973-7909
Dr. Swetlikoff, ND in Kelowna Canada - 250-868-2205
We hope to have write ups on all of these clinics soon. If you know of any other clinics that offer laetrile as part of their protocol, be sure to let us know. In addition, an oncologist can prescribe laetrile. Lorraine Rosenthal of The Cancer Control Society tries to keep on top of doctors who use laetrile - 323-663-7801.

If you would like to read information on Laetrile and other metabolic therapies, see our list of books, audios, and videos. We recommend World Without Cancer, written by G. Edward Griffin, and Alive and Well, written by Philip E. Binzel, Jr., M.D.

http://www.cancure.org/laetrile.htm

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Reply #29 - Oct 21^st, 2010 at 6:49am

[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1287169442/15#27 date=1287607454]Teflon in cooking pans etc, was found to be a major contributer to Cancer growth in the USA after extensive research. It has since been banned. Baby Bottles recently have been banned in Australia because of something similar.
Dropped toxic waste in a Tasmanian Lake was the culprit to the surge of Cancer in people and Tasmanian Devils as the Toxicity filtered down the environmental system and food chain. The Aust (Howard ...who always hated Tasmania) Govt knew about this and was partially responsible.
[highlight]NewZealand still does 1080 drops to rid the land of Possums, Stoats, etc ...although banned everywhere else, the 1080 still continues to pollute the waterways and food chains of NZ.[/highlight]Sydney harbour, although much cleaner these past 10 years, still has high levels of metal traces in the the fish and the fishermen that frequent there.
Chenobyl - people who still reside there have incredibly low immunities that have left most of em 'sterile' by the second generation along with the associated deformaties and abnormalities of growth. End of the line after a few generations that survive.

___________

you think this and wars and 9/11 were accidents?

oh ok...[/quote]

Got some bad news for you Jas...1080 is still widely used in Australia as a poison for feral animals...mostly foxes around my area....

"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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