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Reply #15 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:09am
 
Given major parties don't stick to their roots anymore but play a popularity game based on public opinion (almost on a minute-by-minute basis) I guess it's not that hard to see why people are losing faith in them.
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Interesting recommended (shortish) reading on this site. Read the comments - also TBQueensland makes good points....


http://guttertrash.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/labor-lost/#comments
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Reply #16 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:15am
 
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Given major parties don't stick to their roots anymore but play a popularity game based on public opinion (almost on a minute-by-minute basis) I guess it's not that hard to see why people are losing faith in them.
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Interesting recommended (shortish) reading on this site. Read the comments - also TBQueensland makes good points....


http://guttertrash.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/labor-lost/#comments



Morning Vegitable    how do you find the time to find these rubbish sites with the washing and vacuming


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Reply #17 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:22am
 
Morning Vegitable    how do you find the time to find these rubbish sites with the washing and vacuming
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Hi bwood..

I take time out and rest  - l
bit like watching in-house movies on a jet flight whilst ignoring the harder taskes...
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Reply #18 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:28am
 
Anthropological Global Warmongering may be attributed to the increasing popularity of the Greens, as can their apparent pandering to key-minority groups for votes,(eg ethnic minorities and gays) .... but most of all, I think their popularity comes down to lay-peoples increasing aversion for our traditional leading parties, as they make and break promises having little regard for the people who vote for them.

Take Icelands new government for instance, whereby a nation boycotted both leading party's, this and managed to form their own out of celebrities.

Basically, they boycotted their traditional leading partys and won.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/cheeky-best-party-wins-iceland-poll-2...

living so close to the north-pole of which their traditional party's insisted were melting due to a 'global warming phenomena', when in fact, Icelandic people have visually been observing their ice expanding over recent years ...may have had something to do with the boycott.

Only 30 odd percent of them believe in AGW,(man-made global warming)  if that....(possibly less now that the older governments have lost power)....odd considering they would have a birds eye view to the phenomena in question, yes?

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Reply #19 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:39am
 
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Morning Vegitable    how do you find the time to find these rubbish sites with the washing and vacuming
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Hi bwood..

I take time out and rest  - l
bit like watching in-house movies on a jet flight whilst ignoring the harder taskes...
hey  Kiss


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Reply #70 - Yesterday at 12:20pm     Equitist wrote on Yesterday at 12:06pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Yesterday at 11:35am:

The only party keen to find some political mileage in this "story" appear to be Murdoch Press
I've not heard a 'peep' out of the acting Opposition Leader - or front bench

Actually, Buzz, it would seem that the right wing media are doing the dirty work on behalf of the Libs - since the allegations at the Federal level directly involve dealings between Abbott and Oakeshott...and Graeme Morris (former Howard staffer) was directly involved in the dirt story in the Herald Sun...

Grubs and thugs, the lot of 'em!





Indeed, comrade, indeed

Not too disimilar to Murdoch's 'The Australian' led UTE-GATE campaign - driven by FAKE EMAILS

I have great new ULTRA LIGHT WHEEL CHAIR FROM DVA so i was playing around whilst reading and posting  "bloody idiot'  I tipped it backwards  banged the head on the tiles.  Woke up being put on a bloody streacher ..What a head ache

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Reply #20 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 10:52am
 
Ultimately, Greens are a passing fad, they will die back off as soon as immigrants realise their support for an 'apparently' migrant-friendly party was all in vain....and when genuine environmentalists realise the Greens stopped hugging trees and started hugging refugees instead for votes.

Cool Also, I don't suppose uni students and their parents would be too happy with Simon Creans (ALP)  and Sarah Hanson-Youngs (Greens) pre-electoral deal to impose compulsory student union fees on already impoverished students struggling to feed themselves due to a lack of youth employment opportunities...hence some 20% of them remain unemployed.

A deal the Greens made with the ALP before the election should Gillard win.

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Reply #21 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 1:37pm
 
Green policies now matter as their voter base grows, their parliamentary power increases and their policy ambit widens.

• Contrary to popular perception their policies are not narrowly environmental – in their entirety they mimic the central planning model now rejected by all but a few closed societies.

• Their environmental policies are based on quasi-religious belief and serious misconceptions of the quality and resilience of the environment – they will strike particularly hard at the rural sector.

• Green economic policies will radically redistribute the shrinking national income their policies will bring about.
-  Investment controls, weak labour policies and other forms of interference in markets will destabilise the economy.

• Energy consumption and exports will be drastically reduced by quarantining our principal energy source, coal, and any other feasible alternative.     Wind, solar and other renewables can replace only a fraction of current supply at a much higher cost – they will enforce negative economic growth.

• Immigration policy will focus on facilitating the entry of refugees and restricting the current flow of skilled and highly educated immigrants.

Other policies will enlarge the public sector, tighten censorship, restrict overseas trade and liberalise drug use.

Twenty or more new or increased taxes are proposed to reduce incomes, increase prices, tax inheritances and shrink the rental property pool.

• Green policies will hit the poor hardest through increased taxation, high energy (and hence goods and services) prices, lower employment and economic growth and reduced choices – we will all be
worse off but the poor will suffer most.


• Green policies are inward and backward looking, have failed universally at great cost to those who have been misguided enough to try them and are inconsistent with a free and tolerant society.  These policies ought to be rejected


ABOUT THE AUTHOR
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policy and foreign investment and serving a term on the Australian delegation to OECD
. He was subsequently Economic Advisor to the Business council of Australia. Hehas worked in senior management positions in Pioneer International, Australis Media and Star City Casino.
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Reply #22 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 1:47pm
 
Are you all aware of these taxes the Greens will impose if given the opportunity ?

The Australian Greens’ Taxations Policy   
New Taxes or tax increases ( Policy section reference)
1. Increased income tax rates ( 3.3.2)
2. New Consumption tax with multiple rates (3.3.8)
3. Increase capital gain tax (3.3.9,3.3.10)
4. Higher Fringe Benefit tax (3.3.3)
5. Eliminate salary sacrificing (3.3.3)
6. Introduce estate duties [including family home] (3.3.11)
7. Introduce gift tax (3.3.12)
8. Higher Medicare levy with progressive rates (3.3.15, 3.3.16)
9. Eliminate Private Health Insurance rebate (3.3.18)
10. Increased taxations of superannuation(3.3.19, 3.3.20)
11. Tax family trusts (3.3.14)
12. Increased company tax to 33% (3.3.21)
13. Tax on franked dividends (3.3.22)
14. Carbon levy (3.3.24)
15. Increased timber royalties (17.1.8)
16. Tax equivalent on non recycled paper (17.1.8)
17. Tax bottles and containers (17.1.7)
18. plastic bag levy (17.1.7)
19. private transport user tax (2.4,2.5)
20. Tax on batteries (7.1.12)
21. Increased tax on rental property (3.3.28)
22. Mining environmental levy (15.1.6)
23. Nutrient pollution tax (3.3.25)
24. Tax on fossil fuel usage (3.3.25)
25. Tax on water pollution (3.3.25)
26. Tax on soil pollution (3.3.25)
27. Tax on air pollution (3.3.25)
28. Tax on timber use (3.3.25)
29. Tax on use of ocean (3.3.25)
30. Tax on use of freshwater (3.3.25)
31. Tax on mineral use (3.3.25)
32. Tax on land sites according to land value (3.3.25)
33. Tax on electromagnetic spectrum assets (3.3.25)
34. Tax on petroleum (3.3.25)
35. Higher taxes on ecologically damaging industries 3.3.27)
36. Currency transaction tax (3.3.36)
37. 33 % tax surcharge on high corporate salaries (3.3.31)
38. Pay-roll tax to fund employee entitlements (4.3.25)
39. Landfill taxes (16.2.3)
40. Increased environmental charges and fines (16.2.3, 16.2.8)

Tax elimination or reductions ( Policy section reference)

1. GST ( Replaced with consumption tax ) (3.3.8)
2. Cut tax on bartering or black market (3.3.29)
3. Increase tax-free threshold (3.3.31)
4. Tax cut for non-frequent flyers (3.16)
5. Eliminate Higher Educations charge (2.18)
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Reply #23 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 1:48pm
 
____ wrote on Oct 6th, 2010 at 4:41pm:
German Greens Pass Social Democrats for First Time, Poll Says


Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Germany’s Green Party gained one point to to 24 percent, passing fellow opposition party the Social Democrats in public support for the first time, according to a Stern-RTL poll. The Social Democrats fell to 23 percent.

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats and their CSU Bavarian allies gained one point to 31 percent, while their FDP coalition partner stayed at 5 percent, according to the poll, carried out by Forsa.

Support for the oppositon Left Party was unchanged at 10 percent, the poll said.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-06/german-greens-pass-social-democrats-for-first-time-poll-says.html



Seems The Voters of the World are warming to the Greens.


That's pretty funny; it's not like the Germans don't have a history of supporting some pretty dodgy political parties.
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Reply #24 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 1:58pm
 
Why would you vote for a party that will impose or increase the taxes outlined above ?

Have the Green voters really looked into and examined their policies.

They're really quite frightening when look into them properly.
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Reply #25 - Oct 9th, 2010 at 2:07pm
 
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tax the multinationals off the planet shut down the mines
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Gee cods seems the Libs also want to stop mining.  Liberal MP Pru Goward has today called on the Labor state government to Stop a mine going ahead in  Goulburn....


who would'a thought.



Vege, the proposed mine you refer to is too minute on the overall scheme of things to warrant a mention. You`ve missed the point, completely.
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