Gotta love the "Western respect for women"... 12 yo. girl pimped out by her mum to 100 blokes, and none of them get charged.

Only Islam can offer true justice.

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No charges against prostitute's clients

No further charges will be laid against the 100 men who paid to have sex with a 12-year-old Tasmanian girl, police say.

Gary John Devine, 51, and a 41-year-old woman, were jailed for 10 years earlier this year after admitting to pimping the girl to have sex with 100 men.

But police said on Tuesday they had received advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions not to lodge any additional charges.

A statement from police denied media reports of the existence of a diary or list of clients.

The statement said three phone records had been linked to police officers, but investigations had shown one of the phone numbers was being used by someone else, while neither of the other two were clients of the girl.

Source: The Age

100 blokes, and none of them get charged.

This is how low Abu has to sink to make Islam appear better than western culture. This is what you have to dig up to make what is legal under Islam look good in a comparison.

- Freediver

Well I'm glad (and relieved) to see that someone had the guts to say what some of us are thinking.

Furthermore Abu .. you are a Mod are you not in another part of this Oz Politic forum???

Are these your exemplary posts ??

If this topic is anything to go by then you have done nothing more than betray yourself as being very bitter and against the very country which has embraced you as its citizen.

I have some Muslim friends and neighbours and NOT ONE of them speaks or thinks like you do.

I am saddened by all this to be honest.

Good night my friend.

Abu, as a pure blooded Mediterranean woman who has been brought up in Oz under a strict religious and cultural code I detest and protest against the nonsense you are posting

If this topic is anything to go by then you have done nothing more than betray yourself as being very bitter and against the very country which has embraced you as its citizen.

I have some Muslim friends and neighbours and NOT ONE of them speaks or thinks like you do.

My point was not that all who are brought up in this society will hold such disregard for women, but it is pretty rampant. I grew up as an Anglo Aussie male, and I saw constantly with my own eyes the kind of disregard Aussie men generally have for females, and even a lot of Aussie women themselves. And I find it EXTREMELY hypocritical when they then go on to make bold sweeping generalisations about Islam... so you can consider this my payback.

helian, I'm actually pretty tolerant on the Islamic forum, it's just you lot are so abusive, blasphemous, rude, hateful etc. that eventually something's gotta give.

Everyone who's been banned or censored there has been given multiple warnings, honestly I don't know why I let so much go.

To compare my post here with the rot I've put up with in the Islamic forum is a joke, seriously wake up to yourself.

And enough of this garbage about "bashing sisters", we both know you're the one more likely to do something despicable like that here, in a drunken rage or drugged out stupor.

Be honest with yourself.

See that's the thing, Abu... When you claim the high ground as a zealous morality snob, you must deny yourself the liberty to act in the same manner as those you denigrate and to whom you condescend (like your former own people). Otherwise you prove yourself to be an example of the kind of hypocrite you accuse others of being... Which we all know you are.

And sorry to disappoint, but no, I've never bashed a woman... Apparently though under Sharia law such things are acceptable... But only if she's been a very naughty girl and, say, gone and got herself raped.

Bobby,

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Right on Bobby! But first we need to reform our society. It would be unjust to go around punishing people for pimping out their 12 y.o daughter, when prostitution, adultery, fornication, homosexuality etc. are so acceptable in our society. We need to establish a proper moral framework within which to live, so that things like this have no chance of ever occurring.

Gizmo,

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Errr, no. It simply wouldn't even occur under a proper Islamic Shari'ah jurisdiction. Even the worst of people who lived in a Shari'ah jurisdiction would not be so despicable.

Oh, so there is no prostitution laws under Shari'ah???....

So then there would have been no charges laid right??

Bobby,

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Right on Bobby! But first we need to reform our society. It would be unjust to go around punishing people for pimping out their 12 y.o daughter, when prostitution, adultery, fornication, homosexuality etc. are so acceptable in our society. We need to establish a proper moral framework within which to live, so that things like this have no chance of ever occurring.

gizmo,

No it wouldn't happen because people would have at least a baseline of morality where they'd consider such a thing unthinkable.

Bobby,

Yes justice should be strong, but it must also be fair. How is it fair to prosecute people for crimes which are pretty much encouraged in our society anyway? Law enforcement is not just about punishing, it is about moving towards a better society, and that must be done with education and changing of people's attitudes, as well as punishments, to have a truly lasting reform of society.

We need to establish a proper moral framework within which to live, so that things like this have no chance of ever occurring.

Bobby,

Yes justice should be strong, but it must also be fair. How is it fair to prosecute people for crimes which are pretty much encouraged in our society anyway? Law enforcement is not just about punishing, it is about moving towards a better society, and that must be done with education and changing of people's attitudes, as well as punishments, to have a truly lasting reform of society.

You know .. you have a LONG LONG way to go my dear friend.

You do realise that you're supposed to be a MODERATOR on the Islam forum of this same message board .. and as such .. you've done yourself no favours at all ... if the contents of your posts in this topic are anything to go by.

How on earth do you expect people to show you any respect given the rubbish you've posted in this topic??

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Sappho says.
Do we Mantra? Where is your evidence for such a claim? Or is it that you are relying on the reports of mass media. Is it more violent now than during the days of the razor gangs or bodgies/widgies gangs?

Is society more violent now than it has been previously?
I really don't think it is, when you look back through 1000s of yrs of history and even the horrendous abuse and crimes against women and children that went unreported, ignored and unpunished only a few decades ago. I think some of the  differences now is we are more aware of what is going on domestically and globally and we are more willing to face to truth and to bring people to justice no matter how awkward the truth is.
Just because we are now more aware and willing to deal with violence, poverty, abuse and the reasons for war and conflict does not mean there has been a rise in such things, in fact I think there may have been a decline  

It's such a shame you are unable to practice what you preach when you visit other sections of Oz Politics.

As I stated in my earlier post .. I am deeply saddened by all this.

Your behaviour has achieved nothing more than incite deep resentment by other posters who have responded in this topic.

Good night and may God truly help you see that what you've done here is just dreadful.

Lisa [/b]

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I stand by my comments Mantra. And I remain disappointed in what I've seen in this topic.

What I have NOT said is this: I believe this may also be an opportunity for us all to stop and think about what it is we're saying/doing .. and hopefully MOVE FORWARD <-- uggh there go Julia Gillard's 2 famous words again.

If Abu wishes to have a piece of me for what I have posted in here ... that is his right and he is more than welcome to. I think he knows I am genuinely concerned about what is going on here..

This negative energy is dreadful to witness. And from what I am reading .. it's been going on for some time now. Am I expected to just sit back and pretend it isn't happening??

No light, it's nothing to do with 'normal' porn

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ok.

explain yourself here

define normal porn

so you watch porn

but hate porn crimes?

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 6:40pm:



What is a 'porn crime'???

Watching 'porn', which involves willing, paid proffessional actors is no different to watching 'violent' action movies like Rambo....
No one is hurt, and no one is forced..

Movies that involve 'unwilling' participants, on the other hand, are and should be illegal.....and I report any that I see...

The only qualm Western society has with this incident is that her mum started her a little early... that's about it. As far as her being whored off is concerned, it's quite fine by Western standards.

More likely it was Christian priests.

That would explain the leniency and identity cover-up.

Hopefully, the Police are in the process of nailing these animals. They are lower than bacteria.

Unless there`s a twist to this story, if the title of this thread is accurate, there are 100 proven paedophiles creeping around who should be castrated, and gaoled for life with hard labour.

Methinks that the prosecutors didn't try hard enough to bring the offenders to justice...

Mum who pimped daughter, 12, jailed

    * Matthew Denholm, Tasmania correspondent
    * From: The Australian
    * May 15, 2010 12:00AM

A WOMAN has been sentenced to 10 years' jail for prostituting her 12-year-old daughter to raise cash, in part with the stated aim of buying two new cars.

The Tasmanian woman, a 41-year-old drug user with a limited education and little work history, pleaded guilty to a series of charges associated with helping to prostitute her daughter.

Judge Peter Evans, of the Tasmanian Supreme Court, yesterday said the mother's conduct was "an appalling breach of trust and an abuse of her maternal obligations".

"The complainant (the girl) has been diagnosed to be suffering from . . . sexually transmitted diseases including genital warts and chlamydia," Justice Evans said. "She finds it difficult to talk about how she is getting along. I have no doubt that what occurred has had a most deleterious impact on her. She may suffer from psychiatric problems that can be related to the conduct in question."

An acquaintance of the mother, Gary John Devine, has been sentenced to 10 years' jail for his part in the prostituting the child.

Justice Evans referred to evidence that the mother had sought to justify her actions to another daughter by saying that the money obtained would be used to "pay off the house and get the car window fixed".

On another occasion, when the other daughter had questioned what was going on with her younger sister, the mother had replied: "It doesn't matter. We are going to get money out of it - we are going to get two Commodores."

Justice Evans said the mother's decision to prostitute her daughter had been made during a meeting with Devine last year. "It was . . . agreed between the three of them (the mother, Devine and the daughter) that the complainant would become a prostitute," Justice Evans said.

The next day, Devine had written out an advertisement for "Angela 18 years old and new in town" with a telephone number. The ad was placed in a newspaper.

Clients were charged $100 per half hour and $50 extra if they did not wear a condom. "The complainant estimates that over the period of two days she earned $2000. From this she gave the defendant $400, Mr Devine $100 and the balance was spent on drugs," Justice Evans said.

Afterwards the girl had worked from Devine's home for about four weeks, having sex with more than 100 men.

Justice Evans gave the mother a non-parole period of seven years. He said that during her period in custody she had been separated from other inmates "due to their attitude towards her conduct".

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That's okay, but what you 'maintain' would never be heard by any Jury.  What would be heard is this:

1.  She was pimped as being 18.
2.  She looked as though she was 18.
3.  "Look, Constable for those two reasons, I believed she was 18.  I paid, and I did the deed."

No case.

That's legal reality, and all you "Bravehearts" need to accept that, and then, go beat up on a real case of undisclosed guilty abuse of young people.

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This is worse than I thought.
It's disgusting.
How could this happen in todays society?
That poor girl.

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Again, you're assuming that the police know who they are.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2010 at 9:22pm:


Worse than those pedophile Catholic priests

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Everything's a bloody conspiracy, isn't it?

"under-age flesh"

"They split little boys buttocks."

Seriously, you guys are rather creepy.

Well it's true Life.
Sex crimes are out of control.

No. I can see why they think getting a conviction is extremely unlikely.