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Should We Get Rid Of The Private Health Rebate ??? (Read 22659 times)
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Re: Should We Get Rid Of The Private Health Rebate ???
Reply #45 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:52am
 
Please delete wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 11:43am:
"Wayne Rooney earns $240,000 per week.
Who is rich? Rooney or the family above?"

Rooney earns $240K per week
Hicks' theoretical family earns $2150 or so per week after tax
Another wage earner pulls in $750 per week after tax

Who is rich?


Isn't the answer the same as to my question?
Wayne Rooney is.
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Reply #46 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:02pm
 
Should we get rid of the rebate? Probably, but not in isolation. The rebate is part of a complex system. If we're going to mess with it, we must do so in the context of an overhaul of the whole health funding system.

The rebate was one of Howard's ways of buying our votes with our own money. The amount of money that was taken from us in taxes, cycled through the public service, then returned to us as so-called "middle-class welfare" must be phenomenal. The only real beneficiaries were the Coalition and the public service. Think how much could have been saved if they hadn't taken it from us in the first place.

The joke is we've fallen for it for so long.

Oh God, I'm beginning to sound like Andrei! Sort of.
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Reply #47 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:05pm
 
Oops, double-posted somehow. Embarrassed
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Reply #48 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:22pm
 
mellie wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 10:09am:
At least this way, we have choices, we may go public or private...the ALP would love to take these choices away from us.

The ALP wont be happy until we are a socialist Republic.

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It seems that you want the choice but you expect the comrades to collectively pay for it.

I would have thought that for the state to reduce their subsidy and expect the people who want it to pay for it themself would be a move away from socialism?
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Reply #49 - Sep 15th, 2010 at 9:31pm
 
I am not in favour of removing the rebate but do agree that their should be some cap.

There is a point to providing a subsidy as incentive to reduce pressure on the public system but at some level the subsidy has no benifit as the people recieving it would be paying for the private cover anyway.
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Reply #50 - Oct 15th, 2011 at 10:20pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 14th, 2010 at 2:53pm:
In a word NO, we should not.

Think of this situation -

1) A person is earning roughly A$150k per year. He takes out private healthcare. He is paying over $60,000 in tax to the ATO. When he needs hospital cover he doesn't use the public system.

2) A person is either not working, claiming benefits, earning a low amount and paying very little if any tax. He uses the public system.

Who is funding who? Who is helping to pay for the public system and NOT USING IT.


Answer me this why should those people who earn $150k+ directly pay for their own healthcare AND fund those who don't pay for the public system.

Why should we have one set of people living off the backs of others?
Why should we pay for other people?

I never had a free ride in life, I worked hard. I fail to see why its acceptable to give it others.

I refuse to support losers and deadbeats.


A perfect respopnse.
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Reply #51 - Oct 26th, 2011 at 3:14pm
 
No way.

Something that irks me about Private Health Insurance though.  All other insurance pays the whole amount (except perhaps a small excess), so why can't you get that option with Private Health Cover? I pay for the top cover, and recently when claiming for a family member, with some services I was only getting back about 35% including Medicare and Health Fund refunds.

This is something that is common across all insurance funds.

Why is it so?
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Reply #52 - Nov 1st, 2011 at 5:46am
 
Quote:
Why is it so?


'Cause you bought a lemon.
The democratic public assumes that health care is a priority in a successful society.
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Reply #53 - Nov 4th, 2011 at 10:53am
 
It might be an assumption, but it's in no way reflected in practice. If you can afford it, you can get priority treatment for everything.

My own view is that it's fair enough. If you want to pay for extras, you should be entitled to it.  

I might have bought a lemon, but they only sell(edited typo) lemons. The comment was made by two of the doctors concerned that our health fund was the best of the lot.
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Reply #54 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:56pm
 
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Reply #55 - Mar 19th, 2012 at 10:09pm
 
skippy. wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 8:23am:
Yes we should get rid of the stupid rebate.
The rodent has a lot to answer for, why should the health industry be propped up when he let companies like Ansett go bust during his time as PM?
Why did many other businesses go bust but the only one that was bailed out was the one run by the rodents brother?
Howard was a filthy scumbag just like the retards who will no doubt come in here and defend him.
STOP taking our money to prop up private business, if  MBF cant survive without massive government handouts, tuf titty.
Give OUR TAXPAYER FUNDS BACK TO PUBLIC HEALTH.
Screw the tards who want a handout, if you cant afford private health stop taking my money, you bludging scum.



Well Labor has not abolished it at all..it has simply ceased to allow fat cats to get fatter on the public purse.  Good on 'm ....
Most middle and lower income earners will still havr full access to the rebate.

So go cry somewhere else.... as if you don't have enough already,,  you'd like to take away any thing and evrey thing from the poor, if you could. Andrei Hick doesn't even live in Oz..   what worth is that??.   

I worked and paid taxes for decades also, and I expected my taxes to be go toward the greater good. Not to prop up the McMansion and the 'lifestyle' you've become accustomed to.. You are all much too defensive....which you turn to offensive,  about how much this small change will cause you to lose.!!! You sorry lot of whinging ........!!!!!!!!!!



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