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Sep 9th, 2010 at 12:21pm
 
Let me get this straight.

Labor, in it's desperation, signed an alliance with the Greens (AFTER the Election) to gain 1 more seat.  Again, Labor, in it's desperation, promised $10billion to the Independents to gain their votes (where will the $10 billion come from.........as there is now supposed to be a shortfall of nearly $8 billion from the crazy mining tax).  Isn't Treasury just great at doing their arithmetic?

So, now, we have the Greens wanting to do some sort of deal with the Libs.  Is that because Labor are showing strong signs of already reneging on their committment to the Greens?  And Oakshott and Windsor?  Will they be disallusioned?

What a rabble.  Tony Abbott should just stand back and let the Rainbow Party implode.  That's what I think.  If he does that, then that will be the end of the loony Greens, possibly the Labor Party and the 2 amigos who sold out their Electorates.

Go, Tony, hold this rabble to account.  It was best that Labor won Government (I mean, bribed their way into Government).  Just sit back and watch for eg. the Green's disgusting taxes and ideologies be announced.  The un-informed voters who voted for the Greens will soon realise that they have been conned.

A house divided against itself will NOT stand.  And so, we have the Rainbow Party.

What an entertaining sideshowwe are already witnessing, and that's just after a couple of days. lol lol lol
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Reply #1 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 12:26pm
 
Just a footnote:  It's been reported that Gillard will probably give the Foreign Affairs ministry to little Kevvie.  You know, the egotistical loud mouth that insulted and upset so many of our trading partners.  At least that would get him out of the country. 

Gillard is in Office, but not in power.  I would hate to be in her shoes
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Reply #2 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 12:31pm
 
I thought she was going to give him an indigenous affairs role, or was this if he got knocked back for foreign affairs?

I know he's supposed to be delivered to her cabinet.

So much for his almighty UN position, or was that a decoy?

Speaking of UN, why have we installed an Australian embassy in Ethiopia?

Free slave-trade agreement?

Roll Eyes

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Reply #3 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 12:31pm
 
it's better to stay as opposition for another year or less than to join force with those nerds ..
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Reply #4 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 12:43pm
 
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/i-will-hold-my-bush-coalition-together-vows-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-fn5ko0pw-1225915608217


UPDATE 6.15pm: FORMER prime minister Kevin Rudd is expected to be made foreign minister in an overhaul of Julia Gillard's Labor frontbench.

The cabinet could make history if independent Rob Oakeshott decides to take up the Labor leader's offer to make him minister for regional Australia - part of the deal to gain the support of the Lyne MP and fellow independent Tony Windsor to stay in government.

Ms Gillard is expected to consult more broadly than her predecessor Mr Rudd on her new ministry but has pledged to use powers caucus gave him after his 2007 election victory to name the frontbench free of factional influence.

Mr Rudd is tipped to get his preferred role, with Foreign Minister Stephen Smith switching to defence, vacated by John Faulkner.

A senior Labor source said Mr Rudd was likely to get "the portfolio he asks for".

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Reply #5 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 1:03pm
 
sandysquirrel18 wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 12:21pm:
Let me get this straight.

Labor, in it's desperation, signed an alliance with the Greens (AFTER the Election) to gain 1 more seat.  Again, Labor, in it's desperation, promised $10billion to the Independents to gain their votes (where will the $10 billion come from.........as there is now supposed to be a shortfall of nearly $8 billion from the crazy mining tax).  Isn't Treasury just great at doing their arithmetic?

So, now, we have the Greens wanting to do some sort of deal with the Libs.  Is that because Labor are showing strong signs of already reneging on their committment to the Greens?  And Oakshott and Windsor?  Will they be disallusioned?

What a rabble.  Tony Abbott should just stand back and let the Rainbow Party implode.  That's what I think.  If he does that, then that will be the end of the loony Greens, possibly the Labor Party and the 2 amigos who sold out their Electorates.

Go, Tony, hold this rabble to account.  It was best that Labor won Government (I mean, bribed their way into Government).  Just sit back and watch for eg. the Green's disgusting taxes and ideologies be announced.  The un-informed voters who voted for the Greens will soon realise that they have been conned.

A house divided against itself will NOT stand.  And so, we have the Rainbow Party.

What an entertaining sideshowwe are already witnessing, and that's just after a couple of days. lol lol lol




I have said on a number of previous ocassions, that I suspect whoever won this election will not see out their full term and that they would probably lose the next election.

That said, if the Public perceive that they are
rushed, unnecssarily into another early election
, then there COULD be a backlash against those perceived as being the antagonists?
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Reply #6 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 1:05pm
 
I find it odd that Rudd will get what he wants after being back stabbed and humilliated, Here we have an ex PM who only had the support of 21 for and 80 against, hence he didn't fight for his job now sitting shoulder to shoulder to his plotters and assasins.

Rudd must have some seriously thick skin or has some other issues that see him support and back his attackers???


It just does not make sense.

the problem is, Gillard has to appease so many different sections, the unions, the factions, the plotters, the greens, the independants etc.

How can she possibly make policy that everyone is happy with. This governemnt will not get any policy running of its own, it will unfortunately have to concentrate on policy of the minor parties in order to keep in government.

We will have the greens puching for a highe rmining tax and fishing bans and a carbon tax, the independants will want billions poured into regional projects.

The greens will only support labor policy if it gets its own way on its agenda, same with the independants????

i give it 6 months and we'll be voting again???
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Reply #7 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 1:17pm
 
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3006861.htm

Staying on message Labor's new challenge

The fundamental contradictions within the fledgling Gillard Government were on display on day one, along with the risk; that Gillard's short Prime Ministership will be cut to pieces by the scissor motion of the Greens on her Left and the country independents on her Right....etc etc

Wednesday marked the start of the onslaught triggered by the public expectation of the country independents that the Government's controversial revenue behemoth, the tax on the mining sector, would be included in the root and branch Tax Summit promised to the independents by Gillard July next.

Treasurer Wayne Swan, with one eye on bringing the budget back into surplus by 2013 moved immediately to protect his revenue stream. Swan said the tax would not be part of the summit. Consideration of the tax, which would only involved implementation not wholesale changes, would be conducted through another process, Swan said.

So, on the Right the bush independents want major reform of the tax to at least be considered. And on the Left, it's the stated position of the Greens that they want the tax increased. In the middle is Gillard...etc etc

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Stable Government?  Not likely.  They will be backstabbing each other on a daily basis......let the fun begin

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Reply #8 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:21pm
 
When those Governement advertisments come onto TV all I think is, not another cheesy political commerical. I always ask myself if anyone actually believes what they hear...

I guess the last election result answers the question. The people of Australia are frustrated with empty promises and no action...
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Reply #9 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:39pm
 
Tim L wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:21pm:
When those Governement advertisments come onto TV all I think is, not another cheesy political commerical. I always ask myself if anyone actually believes what they hear...

I guess the last election result answers the question. The people of Australia are frustrated with empty promises and no action...


And yet 40-55% of the population sign up for it roughly every ten years; granted 30% of them are rusted on.
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Reply #10 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:47pm
 
What you forget is that if their is another election even in the next year .. That a fair few people will take it out on the party that pushed them to it so soon eg.. the coalition ... it is them that want it not the other 6 million or more Aussies..

It is only the coalition and their voters that are upset because they didn't get in and this resentment they are showing can be seen very clearly by the public now and was during the negotiations with the indi' s..

They will also lose the support of these indi's and i cant see them losing their seats due to a bitchy whine from Abbott cause he lost it will cost the coalition more ...

They have a dodgy past record of mud slinging hence why we have so many ex nationals that have become indi's .. we can expect more to leave the coalition over the next year or so once the see what the indi's have achieved.. They already know their chances are better if they do.
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Reply #11 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:51pm
 
Ninja you live in political world not the real world.

next election the IND and greens vote will shrink dramatically as ppl now have a better idea of how preferences work. many ppl didn't know that a vote for A was infact a vote for B due to preferences.

No point voting for daffy duck if he gives his votes to minny mouse especially when you hate minny mouse. PPl will now vote Lib/lab simple as that.

The IND are finished just wait and see greens wont be far behind.
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Reply #12 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:55pm
 
Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:47pm:
What you forget is that if their is another election even in the next year .. That a fair few people will take it out on the party that pushed them to it so soon eg.. the coalition ... it is them that want it not the other 6 million or more Aussies..

It is only the coalition and their voters that are upset because they didn't get in and this resentment they are showing can be seen very clearly by the public now and was during the negotiations with the indi' s..


They will also lose the support of these indi's and i cant see them losing their seats due to a bitchy whine from Abbott cause he lost it will cost the coalition more ...

They have a dodgy past record of mud slinging hence why we have so many ex nationals that have become indi's .. we can expect more to leave the coalition over the next year or so once the see what the indi's have achieved.. They already know their chances are better if they do.


I don't think you have the faintest clue why anyone who voted for, or was a member of, the coalition is upset.
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Reply #13 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:58pm
 
i think their people knew who they voted for and would do the same again ... if they only vote lib / lab the backlash will be against the libs due to them pushing for a election too early and without cause ..

The public will resent him and so will his party he would be dumped immediately and i am sure his party is telling him to pull his head in and sit tight for a bit  

edit and qikvtec do you know as i can see the seat counts clearly on the AEC website and the numbers to each .. it would be a different story if he pushed for a early election ..
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Reply #14 - Sep 9th, 2010 at 10:00pm
 
Binary Ninja wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:58pm:
i think their people knew who they voted for and would do the same again ... if they only vote lib / lab the backlash will be against the libs due to them pushing for a election too early and without cause ..

The public will resent him and so will his party he would be dumped immediately and i am sure his party is telling him to pull his head in and sit tight for a bit  


Why on earth would Abbott need to pull his head in when he can just sit back and watch the skittles party implode?
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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

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