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Reply #855 - Jan 30th, 2013 at 10:25pm
 
The Setting Sun – Japan’s Debt Problems


Today, Japan’s industrial and economic decline is palpable.

But in 2012, Japan’s Nikkei 225 stock average rose by around 23%. Much of the increase reflects faith in the reflation strategy of second time Prime Minster Shinzo Abe to increase growth through an additional US$120 billion of public spending, create inflation to reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio and devalue the Yen.

The strategies, which have all been tried before with limited success, may not restore the health of the Japanese economy.

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The Japanese stock market is around 70-80% below its highs at the end of 1989. The Nikkei Index fell from its peak of 38,957.44 at the end of 1989 to a low of 7,607.88 in 2003. It now trades around 8,000-12,000. Japanese real estate prices are at the same levels as 1981. Short-term interest rates are around zero, under the Bank of Japan’s (BoJ) zero interest rate (ZIRP) policy that has been in place for over a decade. 10-year Japanese government bonds yield around 1.00% per annum.


Since 1990, public finances have deteriorated significantly. Government spending to stimulate economic activity has outstripped tax revenues, resulting in a sharp increase in Japanese government gross debt to around 240% of GDP. Net debt (which excludes debt held by the government itself for monetary, pension and other reasons) is about 135%. The U.S. government has gross and net debt of 107% and 84%. Total gross debt (government, non-financial corporation and consumer) is over 450% of GDP, compared to around 280% for the U.S.

Japan’s demographics parallel its economic decline. Japan’s population is forecast to decline from its current level of 128 million to around 90 million by 2050 and 47 million by 2100.


The proportion of Japan’s population above 65 years will rise from 12% of the total population to around 23%. Japan’s work force is expected to fall from 70% currently by around 15% over the next 20 years. For every two retirees there will be around three working people, down from six in 1990.

According to one forecast, by 2050 Japan will have a median age of 52, making it the oldest society ever known. Current sales of adult diapers exceed those intended for babies.

Japan’s problems have been compounded by two major natural disasters – the 1994 Kobe earthquake and the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami.

In the face of the nation’s long-term decline, Japanese politics has become increasingly fractious. Frequent changes of leadership, often driven by arcane internal factional politics, have created an unstable environment and a lack of policy continuity. Japan has had seven prime ministers in six years and six finance ministers in three years.

Japan’s total tax revenue is currently at a 24-year low. Corporate tax receipts have fallen to 50-year lows. Japan now spends more than 200 yen for every 100 yen of tax revenue received.

Private consumption is weak, falling to about 57% of GDP, further reducing domestic demand. This reflects weak employment, lack of growth in income and the aging population. Strong exports and a current account surplus have partially offset the lack of domestic demand, as firms focused on overseas markets.

With investment and consumption weak, large budget deficits have supported economic activity, avoiding an even larger downturn in economic activity.

Continued economic weakness, a decline in savings rates and a reversal of the current account surplus make the Japanese government debt burden increasingly unsustainable.The aging population further reduces the savings rate.

The combination of falling exports, lower saving rates, declining corporate earnings and cash surpluses is likely to move the Japanese current account into deficit. In turn, this will force Japan to become a net importer of capital to finance government spending, altering the dynamics of its finances.

If Japan continues to run large budget deficits, as is likely, then the falling saving rate and reversal in its current account will make it more difficult for the government to borrow, at least at current low rates.

As the drawdown on financial assets to finance retirement accelerates, Japan will initially run down its overseas investments, losing its net foreign asset position. Unless public finances improve, Japan ultimately will be forced to finance its budget deficit by borrowing overseas.

To avoid the identified chain of events, Japan must address the core problems. But reductions in the budget deficit are difficult. Spending on social security accounts and interest expense now totals a major part of government spending. Increasing health and aged care costs are expected by 2025 to be around 10-12% of GDP. An aging population and shrinking workforce will continue to drive slower growth and lower tax revenues. Tax increases are politically unpopular. Reductions in the budget deficit are likely to reduce already weak economic activity, compounding the problems.

Once the problems emerge, they will be difficult to contain. As Economist Rudiger Dornbush once observed: “The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”

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Reply #856 - Feb 1st, 2013 at 4:33pm
 
GDP Q4 Advance Estimate At -0.1%: A Shocking Slip Into Contraction


The Advance Estimate for Q4 GDP came in at minus 0.1 percent, A shocking surprise to the downside. The WSJ survey of fifty economists I posted yesterday called for a 1.6% print. The Briefing.com consensus I generally feature was for a 1.0 percent GDP, with Briefing.com's on estimate near zero at 0.1 percent. Hands down, Briefing.com's call was closer to the mark than any I've seen.

Here is an excerpt from the Bureau of Economic Analysis news release:

    Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States -- decreased at an annual rate of 0.1 percent in the fourth quarter of 2012 (that is, from the third quarter to the fourth quarter), according to the "advance" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP increased 3.1 percent.

The decrease in real GDP in the fourth quarter primarily reflected negative contributions from private inventory investment, federal government spending, and exports that were partly offset by positive contributions from personal consumption expenditures (PCE), nonresidential fixed investment, and residential fixed investment. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, decreased.

In summary, the Q4 GDP Advance Estimate of minus 0.1 percent, is a shocking plunge into shallow contraction, a move that was quite unexpected by mainstream economists. On February 28th we'll get the Second Estimate, which often shows a significant revision from the Advance Estimate. Those of us who follow GDP closely will be on proverbial pins and needles waiting for the next update.

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Let me pose these thoughts!

What would the REAL US GDP's have been, between 2007 to now, without the massive interventions of both the US Federal Reserve and the US Federal, under both Bush & Obama?

I would suggest the answer is absolutely obvious and the reason I pose that question is because at some point, probably in the not too distant future, we will see the real REALITY, as US government Debt can not simply continue rise unabated & nor can the US Federal Reserve continue unabated with their use of "magic money".

Whilst these actions would have resulted in a resurgent real Economy, at almost any past period, they have this time failed, due to –
1) Demographics – Globally.
2) Energy Supply & Price difficulties, Globally.
3) Climate Change – creating greater Expenditure problems in overcoming more frequent and more intense Extreme weather events & greater problems in growing Agricultural output.

Given what’s at stake, I expect TPTB will do everything within their power, BUT some things are simply not within their power and I suspect that between now and the end of 2014, we will see the cracks in the walls, will start.

For All actions & inactions, there are Consequences!
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Reply #857 - Feb 11th, 2013 at 6:04pm
 
The Recovery Continues To Topple 'Big-Picture' Theories


There's never a shortage of "big picture" theories, usually of the gloom and doom variety. They certainly sell books; often cause anxiety, sometimes even fear. But they almost never come to pass.

Now fast forward to the financial meltdown in 2008. The budget surpluses had already reversed to deficits as the result of the terrorist attacks, home defense and military build-up, and the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The subsequent bursting of the housing bubble, the financial crisis, and resulting "Great Recession" were tackled with still more government spending, on massive government bailouts and stimulus efforts.

The gloom and doom theorists came out of the woodwork again.

Even now, almost four years after the 2008-2009 recession ended, after the stock market has recovered all the way back to its pre-crisis level of 2007, the big-picture theorists are warning that disaster has only been delayed, that the record debt load will still sink the U.S.

However, while they remain fearful, convinced their theories will still work out, the economic recovery continues into its fourth year. Most of the bailout money has been paid back -- with interest.

Even the shorter-term worries -- the fiscal cliff, extension of the debt ceiling, that Washington will be unable to break from dysfunctional political deadlock -- have been handled with more success than expected.

Of course, there are still big problems ahead.

Will Washington initiate the necessary belt-tightening slowly enough to allow the strengthening economy to absorb the spending cuts without rolling over into another slowdown?

Will the Fed manage the second half of its massive stimulus program, reversing it by selling off the trillions in bond assets it has accumulated, allowing interest rates to rise, and so forth, slowly enough that the economy is not affected?

Neither Washington nor the Fed have demonstrated such perfection in the past. There will doubtless be more scares, market corrections, and gloom and doom headlines as those problems are tackled over the next year or two or three.

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One of the posts to this article included -
"Everyone needs water, food, energy, exchange, and shelter -- invest for the long term"

And, therein lies the rub or at least, part of it!

Everyone does need all of these things, for the current system to continue to flourish, as it has for some 200 years, plus!

That said, there are cycles, commonly known as "The Good, the Bad & The ugly" and there are still cycles with cycles.

However, within all of the Economic cycle of ups & downs, over this last 200 years or so, there have been 3 basic factors, which kept returning the Global Economy back to a Growth heading & they were -
1) Population Growth
2) Cheap & Abundant Energy
3) A Goldilocks Global Climate.

All of the other factors were no doubt important for direction at the time, BUT the underlying issues that guaranteed a return to Economic Growth, were the 3 above.

That said, Demographics clearly shows the Global Population is slowing, with Japan showing the way. The normal "fix" here would be another Baby Boom, like that from 1945-1964, BUT that can not happen, for the following reasons -
A) Energy - The EROEI (Energy Return On Energy Invested) for the major Energy sources of Oil & Coal have already reduced significantly and that process is set to continue, as Production shifts from the higher grade, old reserves, give way to lower grade Coal reserves & from the higher grade Conventional Oil, to the lower grade unconventional products, such as Shale Oil & Tar Sands.
The overall results being -
1) Energy Prices will be forced Higher, after another initial dip, as the Global Economy goes into Decline again, over the next few years.
2) The Energy to GDP ratio will rapidly increase, drastically reducing the Disposable income capacity for individuals, Businesses & Governments.
3) Spare Energy Capacity will decrease, placing additional stresses on Productivity.

B) The Goldilocks Global Climate - With Climate Change, the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events are growing. Areas that were hot & dry, are becoming more susceptible to the heat & drier, areas that were wet & becoming more susceptible to being wetter & even more snow events, BUT overall the planet is getting hotter.
And that, combined with higher Priced Energy, is putting an enormous strain on Agricultural Food Production, both in terms of Supply & Price.

All of which leads to much greater stresses, than have ever previously existed on all shorts of "exchange mechanisms", including both Money & Debt!

Certainly, the old truism of "invest for the long term or invest it & forget it", are no longer truisms, BUT more a recipe for disaster, on a grand scale. But in spite of the periodic setbacks and unceasing doom and gloom predictions of the "big-picture" theorists, the long-term path to good times continued.

And the odds are high that, intermediate-term stumbles notwithstanding, in fact, to be expected, that we are on a similar long-term path in this cycle.


Btw, it is quite possible the original article could have been contrived by Maqqa &/or Longweekend, as it is their style?
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Reply #858 - Feb 17th, 2013 at 12:51pm
 
G20 steps back from currency brink, heat off Japan


MOSCOW: The Group of 20 nations declared on Saturday there would be no currency war and deferred plans to set new debt-cutting targets, underlining broad concern about the fragile state of the world economy.

Japan's expansive policies, which have driven down the yen, escaped direct criticism in a statement thrashed out in Moscow by policymakers from the G20, which spans developed and emerging markets and accounts for 90 percent of the world economy.

Analysts said the yen, which has dropped 20 percent as a result of aggressive monetary and fiscal policies to reflate the Japanese economy, may now continue to fall.

"The market will take the G20 statement as an approval for what it has been doing -- selling of the yen," said Neil Mellor, currency strategist at Bank of New York Mellon in London. "No censure of Japan means they will be off to the money printing presses."

"I have explained that (Prime Minister Shinzo) Abe's administration is doing its utmost to escape from deflation and we have gained a certain understanding," Finance Minister Taro Aso told reporters.

"We're confident that if Japan revives its own economy that would certainly affect the world economy as well. We gained understanding on this point."

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The G20 also made a commitment to a credible medium-term fiscal strategy, but stopped short of setting specific goals as most delegations felt any economic recovery was too fragile.

The communiqué said risks to the world economy had receded but growth remained too weak and unemployment too high.

The G20 put together a huge financial backstop to halt a market meltdown in 2009 but has failed to reach those heights since. At successive meetings, Germany has pressed the United States and others to do more to tackle their debts. Washington in turn has urged Berlin to do more to increase demand.

Backing in the communiqué for the use of domestic monetary policy to support economic recovery reflected the U.S. Federal Reserve's commitment to monetary stimulus through quantitative easing, or QE, to promote recovery and jobs.

QE entails large-scale bond buying -- $85 billion a month in the Fed's case -- that helps economic growth but has also unleashed destabilising capital flows into emerging markets.

Russia, this year's chair of the G20, admitted the group had failed to reach agreement on medium-term budget deficit levels and expressed concern about ultra-loose policies that it and other emerging economies say could store up trouble for later.

On currencies, the G20 text reiterated its commitment last November, "to move more rapidly toward mores market-determined exchange rate systems and exchange rate flexibility to reflect underlying fundamentals, and avoid persistent exchange rate misalignments".

It said disorderly exchange rate movements and excess volatility in financial flows could harm economic and financial stability.

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We are now getting to the point of who is going to blink first!

The Japan Debt is escalating, like there is no tomorrow, on the pretext that it is to reflate the Japanese Economy.

However, the major driver of their Economy, which is Demographics, is now set (in concrete) to both Age & Decline in total, for decades to come.

So, THERE IS ZERO CHANCE OF ANY REAL RESURGENCE IN THE JAPANESE ECONOMY!

But, because the US is in a very similar position, of using "magic money" to achieve what they can not achieve in the REAL ECONOMY, it seems they are happy to allow Japan a continued "leeway", as that then allows the US similar "leeway".

And, with both Japan & the US continuing down "Alice in Wonderland's Yellow brick road", there is no other realistic choice for the other nations, but to go along with Japan & the US & HOPE LIKE HELL THAT A MIRACLE HAPPENS!

However, that is most unlikely to occur & whoever holds the reigns of power after the next OZ Federal election will find they have won a poison chalice, as the world Economy deteriorates back into the worst Economic Crisis since the Great Depression!   
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Reply #859 - Feb 23rd, 2013 at 10:49am
 
Retail, business power prices to soar


Consumers and business face the prospect of a new wave of power and
gas price increases driven by shortages of natural gas
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The average Queensland household may be hit with an electricity price increase of 21.4 per cent next financial year following the lifting of a one-year price freeze instituted by the new Liberal National Party government.

The NSW energy regulator is expected in May to decide to jack up electricity prices in the state.

Gas producers expect wholesale gas prices in eastern Australia will rise from the historical average of about $3.50 a gigajoule to as high as $9 when LNG plants start operating in Gladstone in Queensland, a move which will incorporate eastern Australia into the global gas market.

Three big LNG projects, worth about $60 billion, will come on line in the next two years. All of their gas will be sold overseas through long-term contracts, mostly to Asian countries for use in power generation. Gas has to be liquefied for transport across oceans.

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No matter what any Politician (Labor or Liberal - State or Federal) says, Power Prices are set to increase dramatically, particularly in the medium to longer term.
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Reply #860 - Mar 1st, 2013 at 4:09pm
 
US$ Index nudging 82


At a time when -
1) Official US Debt continues to rocket towards escape velocity & into orbit - Over $16 Trillion
2) The FED Reserve is "printing magic money" at a rate of over $1 Trillion annually, thereby propping up the DOW
3) US Politicians are seeming incapable of making decisions on the US which are in the Best, Long Term interests of all US Citizens

The US$ index is now approaching 82, after having risien quickly from 79.
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DXY

Go figure! Who is doing the manipulating?
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Reply #861 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 2:48pm
 
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Forget the Politicking for a moment & just look at the facts.

It took from 1776 to 1966 for the US to have its first $Trillion spending year, unaffected by a World War.

AND, less than 50 years later, the US is now nudging a $4 Trillion Spending year?

Now ask yourself, WHAT DROVE THAT SPENDING INCREASE?
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Reply #862 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
This is an interesting comparison. Outstanding debt from $9 trillion to $16 trillion in just five years. Recovery.........impossible.

Then and Now: Dow Hits Record, Real Economy Crashes

Compare today's record high on the DOW to the stats on the day of the last record high in October 2007 (from The Burning Platform blog):

Dow Jones Industrial Average: Then 14164.5; Now 14164.5

Regular Gas Price: Then $2.75; Now $3.73

GDP Growth: Then +2.5%; Now +1.6%

Americans Unemployed (in Labor Force): Then 6.7 million; Now 13.2 million

Americans On Food Stamps: Then 26.9 million; Now 47.69 million

Size of Fed's Balance Sheet: Then $0.89 trillion; Now $3.01 trillion

US Debt as a Percentage of GDP: Then ~38%; Now 74.2%

US Deficit: Then $97 billion; Now $975.6 billion

Total US Debt Oustanding: Then $9.008 trillion; Now $16.43 trillion

Gold: Then $748; Now $1,583

To add another piece of reality, on the same day Wall Street announced record highs, they were joined by the Coalition for the Homeless in New York City, who announced another record high — in January, an unprecedented 21,000 children, 1% of the city's youth, slept each night in a homeless shelter, a 22% increase over last year. "New York is facing a homeless crisis worse than any time since the Great Depression," says President of the Coalition for the Homeless, Mary Brosnahan.

http://larouchepac.com/node/25739
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Reply #863 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 10:39pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 7th, 2013 at 12:42pm:
This is an interesting comparison. Outstanding debt from $9 trillion to $16 trillion in just five years. Recovery.........impossible.

Then and Now: Dow Hits Record, Real Economy Crashes

Compare today's record high on the DOW to the stats on the day of the last record high in October 2007 (from The Burning Platform blog):

Dow Jones Industrial Average: Then 14164.5; Now 14164.5

Regular Gas Price: Then $2.75; Now $3.73

GDP Growth: Then +2.5%; Now +1.6%

Americans Unemployed (in Labor Force): Then 6.7 million; Now 13.2 million

Americans On Food Stamps: Then 26.9 million; Now 47.69 million

Size of Fed's Balance Sheet: Then $0.89 trillion; Now $3.01 trillion

US Debt as a Percentage of GDP: Then ~38%; Now 74.2%

US Deficit: Then $97 billion; Now $975.6 billion

Total US Debt Oustanding: Then $9.008 trillion; Now $16.43 trillion

Gold: Then $748; Now $1,583

To add another piece of reality, on the same day Wall Street announced record highs, they were joined by the Coalition for the Homeless in New York City, who announced another record high — in January, an unprecedented 21,000 children, 1% of the city's youth, slept each night in a homeless shelter, a 22% increase over last year. "New York is facing a homeless crisis worse than any time since the Great Depression," says President of the Coalition for the Homeless, Mary Brosnahan.

http://larouchepac.com/node/25739


Thanks Pansi, some of those comparisons certainly make it stand out that the Real Economy IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH SHARE PRICES!

That article actually fits in very nicely, with a lengthy piece that I have been working on, so I will try to add that info in.

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Reply #864 - Mar 11th, 2013 at 9:44pm
 
Don't Be Misled By The Employment Report


The Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) reported that payroll employment rose a better-than-expected 236,000 during the month of February, and that the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. Investors celebrated this news as the stock market indices edged higher throughout the day. This was clearly a positive development on the employment front, but for those willing to scratch beneath the surface, the data was not as strong as portrayed by the headline numbers.

The 236,000 jobs reported include 102,000 jobs that the BEA added through what is called its "birth/death" adjustment. This adjustment counts jobs under the assumption that there were brand new employers hiring workers who were not accounted for in the survey results.

The labor force contracted by 130,000, sending the participation rate down to 63.5% from 63.6%, the lowest reading since 1981. This has been the driving force behind the decline in the unemployment rate. What should be concerning investors is that the labor force participation rate is pro-cyclical. This means that it declines as economic growth deteriorates and discouraged workers leave the labor force, and it rises during economic recoveries and expansions as new entrants join the labor force. The continued decline in the labor force participation rate is not indicative of accelerating rates of economic growth.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1260731-don-t-be-misled-by-the-employment-report...
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Let's take a longer term view, with Total Non Fram Employment being around 131 million in January 2000.

According to the following BLS report, it stands at 135 million in February 2013, which translates into a gain of 4 million in just over 12 years.
http://1.usa.gov/14MUh08

That said, the total US population in 2000 was 281 million and the population now is estimated at 315 million, which translates to a total Population gain of 34 million.

So, in the space of 12 years the US Population rose by some 34 million (@ about 1% per year), whilst the total non farm Employment rose by 4 million.

All of which means, something is wrong, something is very, very wrong!!!
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Reply #865 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 11:28am
 
BIG Trouble from Little Cyprus FIX?


Cyprus bailout spooks local investors, ASX 200 down 1.5pc in early trade

A European Union bailout of Cyprus had scared investors and led to a negative opening on the Australian market, IG Markets strategist Evan Lucas said.

“This will impact European markets tonight and will therefore make investors here nervous, coupled with losses to major leads in the US on Friday,'' he said. “Expect the sell-off to be hard today, barring any positive news coming out of Cyprus.”

The European Union has imposed a condition of a 9.9 per cent levy on deposits of more than 100,000 euros in Cyprus's banks as part of its 10 billion euro ($12.6 billion) bailout for the island.


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From the reactions on the US & European Futures markets & the Australian market, it would seem that there may be a reasonably widespread view that the "CYPRUS FIX", IF IT GETS UP", COULD BE APPLIED MORE GENERALLY & THUS IT IS SPOOKING THE MONEY END OF TOWN?
http://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures-advanced-chart
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/futures/
http://www.tradingroom.com.au/apps/mkt/indexDetails.ac?idx=XAO

Certainly, the loss of value on world markets, is set to vastly outweigh the amount of the $12.6 EU bailout package!

But,here's the kicker, the bailout package will not re-invigorate the Cyprus Economy, any more than any other program tried elsewhere, be it Stimulus or AUS-terity!

It is about time for the Politicians, Economists & TPTB to understand that this time is different & the old fixes won't work now!

As the saying goes, It's the real Economy Stupid!!!
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Reply #866 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 3:47pm
 
Echoes Of 1933: The Cyprus Heist


Bank depositors in Cyprus learned today of a planned heist on their funds. It was a well organized one that will take 6.75% of all small deposit accounts and 9.90% of all large depositor accounts.

What is truly shocking about this heist is that it was planned by the EU and IMF and applied to funds, at least for the small depositors, that were supposedly government insured (i.e. risk free). This is what we call a major shock to expectations.

Now the depositors do get bank equity in exchange and some observers note this heist is not as bad it could be--the alternative could have been a complete financial collapse--but from a broader perspective these excuses miss the mark.

The very reason the crisis has got to the point that bailouts or "bail-ins" are needed is because the Eurozone was a flawed monetary union from the start.

It never met the criteria of an optimum currency area and its monetary policy has effectively been geared toward Germany.

Thus, at the advent of the Euro, the ECB policy interest rate was close to what a Taylor rule would predict for Germany, but far too low for the periphery. Likewise, since the crisis the policy rate has been close to what a Taylor rule would predict for Germany, but too high for the periphery. In both cases, ECB policy has been destabilizing to the periphery. That is why, despite being in the midst of a crisis, the ECB explicitly tightened monetary policy in 2011 by twice raising its policy rate. It is also why the ECB has implicitly (or passively) tightened policy over the past few years as evidenced by the flatlining of the broad money supply and nominal GDP. In short, the boom-bust cycle of the Eurozone periphery that helped make the Cyprus financial crisis is largely the result of a flawed monetary system biased toward Germany.

But that part is not new. What is new is the unexpected seizing of depositors funds. As Lars Christensen, Ed Conway, Felix Salmon, and Frances Coppola note, this sets a dangerous precedent for all Eurozone bank deposits. Here is Coppola:

    [T]he fact is that deposit insurance everywhere in the EU has now been undermined. The precedent has been set for insured depositors to suffer losses in order to protect Russian oligarchs and reckless banks. If the Eurogroup can impose this on Cyprus, it can do so elsewhere too.

Yes, EU leadership promised this action was a one-off event, but the fact that they had to make this promise is a sign that they no longer can be trusted.

Just imagine what you would be thinking now if you were a resident of troubled periphery economy and had funds in your bank account. I suspect it would be whether my bank was next and whether I needed to get my funds out ASAP.
It is almost as if the EU and IMF were trying to create a banking panic in Europe.


What the EU and IMF did to Cyprus today is poised to be a repeat of what happened to U.S. banking in 1933. In February of that year, the governor of Michigan declared a statewide banking holiday as a means to resolve an impasse on how to wind down an important bank in Detroit. Like the Cyprus action today, the governor's actions back then sent chill waves across a continent, as depositors in other states began to wonder if their governors would also call bank holidays to prevent withdrawal of funds. The fear was so poignant, that the Ohio governor made it a point to declare the bank holiday would not happen in Ohio. But it was too late, the die had been cast. By March 1933, 48 states had declared some form of bank withdrawal restrictions as the bank panic spread and fed upon itself.

Only with FDR's national bank holiday and the advent of national deposit insurance in March, 1933 was the bank panic stopped.

What is crazy about the Cyprus heist today is that it has the potential to create the same self-fulfilling bank panics across Europe, but without the benefits of a unified treasury to credibly commit to Eurozone deposit insurance. I can't help but hear the echoes of 1933 now unfolding in Europe.


Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1280791-echoes-of-1933-the-cyprus-heist?source=e...
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Reply #867 - Mar 19th, 2013 at 6:23am
 

It will be interesting to watch what comes out of this absurd move by tptb in Cyprus.

What the EU and IMF did to Cyprus today is poised to be a repeat of what happened to U.S. banking in 1933.



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Reply #868 - Mar 25th, 2013 at 3:55pm
 

Imagine you had your retirement fund in the bank.

Imagine if you had just $130,000 to help you in your retirement.

Imagine if you woke up one morning and your $130,000 was suddenly $78,000.

That's what's happening to the people of Cyprus.

Some will just be pensioners with some super and savings, others will be wealthy. I've never seen the wealthy get penalised like this before.

Imagine working hard your whole life and some greedy banker and government takes it off you because of their downright incompetence.

It could happen here too......easily! Remember the secret bailouts?

Imagine waking up one morning and you literally have no access to your money.

I've said it before.........never trust the banks or the government. They're not looking after your money, they want to keep it.
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yeah perceptions,  i had to read it a few times to belive it . seems like one crazy step.
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