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Re: agnosticism vs atheism
Reply #435 - Apr 5th, 2010 at 1:59pm
 
muso wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 1:42pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 12:31pm:
So was he an atheist who believes in God?


Yes,  in the same way that I do.

Face it, you're more like a light roasted existentialist in a thick coating of Buddhism Grin
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Reply #436 - Apr 5th, 2010 at 2:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 1:20pm:
It isn't such a problem with agnosticism, which is too subtle for the media whores. We did have someone try to define atheism with a list of celebrities. But what happens when an atheist changes his mind and become agnostic or theist? Or realises he was agnostic all along? It is easier to take the label with them. No-one wants to be a born again agnostic, especially on TV.

If you want to get subtle about it, I think Einstein went from theism (in his childhood, which doesn't really count), to atheism, to agnostic deism, to agnostic atheism... So, to say Einstein was X on the matter, depends on what part of his life you focus on. The only aspect that appears consistent is his disbelieving the notion of a personal, interventionist god.

It's not really much of theism to use the term 'god' as a synonym for 'first cause' where this 'god' cannot intervene, be concerned about the well-being of humans or suspend natural law (can't imagine what theology could arise from it) and, I bet, very few believers in god today would define god that way... You may as well call it anything you like, if it can have no effect on one's life. Few would argue with theism so defined, anyway.

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Reply #437 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 3:28pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 10:05am:
It's good to see sectarianism is alive and well among atheist...

Absolutley, and it's fantastic!

Note also the complete absence of violence to accompany it. Hmmm.
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Reply #438 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 3:31pm
 
Paella wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 3:28pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 5th, 2010 at 10:05am:
It's good to see sectarianism is alive and well among atheist...

Absolutley, and it's fantastic!

Note also the complete absence of violence to accompany it. Hmmm.

Yep, the old golden rule of society - Divide when we can, unite when we must... And keeping it peaceful to boot.

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