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Feb 27th, 2010 at 5:40am
 
Do Australians have the same belief in freedom ( civil liberties, economic liberties, etc) that the USA used to have and a large percent still do (40%) or so. Economically Australia is quite a bit more economically free than the us. Only thing the us has is lower tax rates 35% and that won't last much longer in the US. The day that the oz dollar becomes stronger than the us will be astonishing how a country with 22 million can have a stronger currency than a country with over 300 million and was suppose to be the land of opportunity. But listen do yourself a favor. 1. Vote for freedom. 2. Do not let people who come from third world countries enter the land down under to become part of the welfare state. It will ruin your country!! Trust me I know from experience. Australia is trying to control inflation so on and so forth you actually produce stuff. All you need to do is get the socialist kevin rudd out and get someone who loves freedom in. Cut taxes and govt spending and you will be the crown of the world. It is within sight for australia to take over the mantle of the greatest country on earth. You need to start a program to get americans who don't want to live in socialism to come to Australia and work. I know you could probably get easily 100K a year and this would solve your low birth rate problem and all. Just an idea thanks for reading my comment.
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Re: Questions for Australians by an American
Reply #1 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 8:24am
 
Americancitizen87 wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 5:40am:
All you need to do is get the socialist kevin rudd out and get someone who loves freedom in.


You conveniently forget that kevin rudd replaced one of the most despised prime ministers we have ever had.  It's the political system we labour under that spoils our country, not any one individual politician.

Americancitizen87 wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 5:40am:
You need to start a program to get americans who don't want to live in socialism to come to Australia and work. I know you could probably get easily 100K a year and this would solve your low birth rate problem and all.


That's the last thing we want! If yanks can't solve the problems of their own country, what makes you think they can solve ours? Actually, many of our problems have been caused by greedy yanks using their sharp business practises to milk our economy whilst others bombard our senses with a glut of USA cerlturre. Please go home, take your nasty military adventurers with you, and stay there!
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Reply #2 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 9:48am
 
The country has been hijacked by people that do not believe in liberty. You idiot do a little research of what is happening in the US. You have groups voting in blocks for socialism. The people and idealogy that made the Us great still exists in droves. Also the govt caused the mess via the fed reserve's low interest rates and their giving loans to people who couldn't make them back. Those are aspects of socialism. You seem like an idiot man. You don't want hard smart americans with iqs of 120 or so but you want people from third world countries? WTF
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Reply #3 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:13am
 
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You conveniently forget that kevin rudd replaced one of the most despised prime ministers we have ever had.  It's the political system we labour under that spoils our country, not any one individual politician.


Despised by some, but, voted in by the populace a number of times.

The chardonnay socialists have the biggest voices here, being the leftie academics and media elite. They purport to represent the voices of the people, so if they hate John Howard then everyone does as far as they are concerned - because they are the voices of the 'people', even though they are not part of the common people and do not want to be.

But the people voted John Howard in, again and again.

Last election he was looking tired and cranky, and it was time to go, whatever your politics were.
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Reply #4 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:25am
 
There has been a change in what is required for successful immigration to AUstralia: real English language competency and actual, useful skills. Native or near-native speakers with readily transferable work skills are once again at the head of the selection queue.

The premier of NSW is American. If you can make it NSW politics, you can make it anywhere. (New York now is for welfare addicted pussies  Wink)

Try your luck. If you can speak the lingo, work and get with the basics of the culture to enable you to rub along without making even simple daily encounters a test for the locals of their multicultural sensitivities - you will be welcome. Australians are welcoming of all. And they positively love those who get the place and get with it.
There will be unending pisstake about the accent, though.



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Reply #5 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:49am
 
Yes, I would say Australians generally have a similar belief in freedoms, although those beliefs are not as articulated and as consciously expressed as they are with Americans. We don’t have a founding document as magnificent and as idealistic as the Declaration of Independence, the principles of which are permanently etched into the American psyche almost from birth.

Yes, we do produce stuff and we're particularly good at digging stuff up, putting it on boats and selling it to the Chinese. Grin

I think most Americans would find what Australians would consider centrist politics to be further left than any American administration has ever been at least since World War II.

great, greater, greatest... All patriots consider their country to be at least great... And the more extreme you get, the more the exaggeration. Any nation that constantly needs reminding its the "greatest country on the face of the earth", must be in a state of doubt.
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Reply #6 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:51am
 
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Also the govt caused the mess via the fed reserve's low interest rates and their giving loans to people who couldn't make them back. Those are aspects of socialism.


I'd hardly call Bush a socialist. The financial crisis and it's causes can all be laid at the feet of his administration.


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You don't want hard smart americans with iqs of 120 or so but you want people from third world countries?


Because everybody knows that there are no people with "IQ's of 120 or so" in third world countries, right?


You titled this post 'Questions for Australians by an American', but you seem more concerned with telling us what we need to do. Like Fawkes noted, you should be doing what you can to sort out your own mess. Australia weathered the financial crisis comparatively well.

Fear campaigns in America have and will cost many people their lives. People are dying every day because your people are terrified of Obama and his ideas for heath care reform.

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Reply #7 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:00am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 10:51am:
Fear campaigns in America have and will cost many people their lives. People are dying every day because your people are terrified of Obama and his ideas for heath care reform.

True. One thing most Australians would not want is the current heartless American health system with "tough tits" attitude towards those who are so far down they can't help themselves.
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Reply #8 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:05am
 
Really wish the member Coral Sea was still around. Just from reading this thread -- and even though I can't pinpoint directly what has been wrong with what's been stated -- I know that  both sides in this argument aren't right. I don't believe anything I hear about U.S healthcare from either "side"; the member Coral Sea did have an intimate understanding however, though he doesn't seem to be around anymore..
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True. One thing most Australians would not want is the current heartless American health system with "tough tits" attitude towards those who are so far down they can't help themselves.


Absolutely, Helian. We're so very lucky to have Medicare here. I found it appalling during the Tea Party fiasco that so many Americans had the attitude that as long as they were covered, stuff everybody else. Even the thought of a public option was distorted by the anti Obama propagandists as an attempt to take them down the road of communism. Ridiculous.

And now Obama himself has included compulsory health coverage as a part of reform, with full knowledge that even the public option will be unaffordable to some. Citizens could conceivably face jail time for not being able to pay for something we take for granted. Big, big mistake.
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Reply #10 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:16am
 
I never get sick I only get stronger
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Reply #11 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:24am
 

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I removed that from my post because I'm trying to track down more information on it before I repost it FYI.


Imperium, I deleted my excellent post so you can find your facts...
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Reply #12 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:32am
 
I removed that from my post because I'm trying to track down more information on it before I repost it FYI.

I didn't write it; my friend who used to post here from America did. Also, the thing about minority doctors is most likely true, though I don't know how much of a problem it is. There are some fields that even affirmative action programs are reluctant to fool around with. Teaching, Mickey Mouse government positions, even law -- no problem. But medicine? The cardinal rule about black guys coming at you with knives is that you fvking run.

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Reply #13 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:33pm
 
Bush was a socialist!!!! He expanded the government by 30%!!!! Do you not have a fckin clue of how an economy works? The healthcare system is flawed because of the government and the only reason it isn't worse is because there has been some resistance from complete govt. takeover. Australia is more economically free than the USA now!!! Obama is a socialist, Jimmy Carter Lyndon Johnson they all were!!!  I am a libertarian but the USA is way left especially minorities which constitute 30% of the population and growing. Also the North and West coasts are very very left than the average Australian citizen!!! Think god for the fact the usa was a republic and constitution it is for this that we have maintained some liberties as long as we have. Learn economics please I may move to the land down under and I want it to be the best.
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Reply #14 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 1:19pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 11:00am:
One thing most Australians would not want is the current heartless American health system with "tough tits" attitude towards those who are so far down they can't help themselves.


True, yet if we import too many of them as migrants we can expect them to soon be telling us that we need to dismantle our system, having never experienced it themselves.

Another part of the USA "tough tits" attitude that many Australians dislike is the USA lack of compassion for the victims of its warmongering. In Vietnam, Cambodia, South America, Iraq, Afghanistan, and next Iran, no number of "accidental" civilian casualties seem to be enough to stop the USA fighting in one country after another to add to their obedient empire... whilst claiming to be bringing freedom and demahcracy to all, whether it is wanted or not.

The yanks are full of hypocrisy, having no idea of how to fix the USA's problems or even start paying off its debt, yet offering themeselves to show us how. The only place I would be happy to see them is back inside the borders of the USA. How I wish they would all get themselves there, and stay!
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