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Feb 5th, 2010 at 6:53pm
 
Abu I'm sure you weren't always this admiring of Osama. At least, you didn't admit to it. Has something changed? Have you become an extremist? Do you still consider yourself a 'mainstream' muslim?

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abu_rashid wrote on Jan 31st, 2010 at 2:13pm:
Comparing that murderous scumbag to someone like OBL is just ridiculous. OBL is a politician, military strategist and freedom fighter. You might not like what he fights for, or even his modus operandi, but to put him on the same level with Milat is just ridiculous.
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Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:13pm
 
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Abu I'm sure you weren't always this admiring of Osama.


That's admiration? Come on fd, get real. Anything short of outright rejection of the man on my part would be admiration/support/condoning to those who have given up thinking.

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Has something changed?


Only with you it seems. You've become less discerning when it comes to analysing things.

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Have you become an extremist?


Can't say I have. You are the one who seems to be making extreme judgements here.

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Do you still consider yourself a 'mainstream' muslim?


Yep.
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Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:56pm
 
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That's admiration? Come on fd, get real. Anything short of outright rejection of the man on my part would be admiration/support/condoning to those who have given up thinking.


I admire freedom fighters. Don't you? I must admit, I sometimes get you wrong. Perhaps you despise Osama because you consider him a freedom fighter. Do you prefer submission fighters?
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Reply #3 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 11:59pm
 
My view about him is perfectly summed up by Mr. Michael Scheuer.

If you'd like a better insight, then I suggest you read some of his books.
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Reply #4 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 8:54am
 
So I have to read a couple of books to get a 'summary' of your position?
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Reply #5 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 1:29am
 
Well you could watch this video I guess, in which he gives a brief summary.

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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 9:06am
 
I don't download videos. Perhaps you could find the strength to speak for yourself?
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Reply #7 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 10:20am
 
You don't need to download it, I embedded it for you, it's right there, just click play and it'll stream for you, no download necessary. Takes about 3-4 minutes to watch, and really well worth it to see one of the most knowledgeable Americans on OBL speak about him, honestly.
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Reply #8 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 3:47pm
 
Yes Abu, I know how videos work. I still don't want to download any. It is nothing to do with convenience.
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Reply #9 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 5:30pm
 
neo-Luddite!

I can't for the life of me imagine why you would not watch it, other than to avoid the implication that my view comes directly from the man who is America's most knowledgeable person about OBL, and who spent years hunting, tracking and studying him, with the best intel available at his disposal.

Anyway there it is. If you're interested feel free to watch, if you're not then we'll end this one here.

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Reply #10 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 7:41pm
 
I would happily read it. So long as I don't have to buy it in a bookstore and it doesn't take 3 days to get through. I genuinely recommend you figure out how to express your own opinion in your own words. Using someone else's just suggests to everyone that you haven't put much thought into it.
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Reply #11 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 9:23pm
 
No need to read, just press play above, and 3 minutes later, it'll all be over. Can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink.
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Reply #12 - Feb 8th, 2010 at 2:51pm
 
Hey FD, at least abu is skirting around your question......he flatly refuses to answer mine.
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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2012 at 3:53pm
 
Back in the days when OBL was a "man of peace"

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 8th, 2012 at 2:53pm:
fd, your juvenile attempts to associate Islam with Nazism are just pathetic.

Hitler was a Western mass murderer, OBL was a Muslim freedom fighter who became a liability to the West after he'd fought off their enemies for them, they are diametric opposites. Only an absolute and utter brainless goon would not be able to see this.

Hitler and Nazism are on the same side of the spectrum as you and your democratic nonsense, nowhere near Islam.


Some other interesting threads about Osama:

Osama: make porn, slaughter cruise passengers

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335956453

Osama had 6 wives and porn stash

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1305413516

Osama dead

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1304307981


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That's admiration? Come on fd, get real. Anything short of outright rejection of the man on my part would be admiration/support/condoning to those who have given up thinking.


It looks to me like you admire him Abu. But I'm pretty sure you used to be critical of him. What has changed? Are you merely being more honest now?

abu_rashid wrote on May 2nd, 2011 at 7:38pm:
If it's true, which is most certainly not confirmed yet, then it's really not as big an event as some who are celebrating seem to think.

Osama the man may pass from this world, but Osama the idea will not.

His resistance against the neo-colonialist/corporate establishment of the West will live long beyond his time.

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Reply #14 - Sep 8th, 2012 at 4:34pm
 
The admin trolling the mods? Oy vey! No wonder this forum is so dysfunctional.
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