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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #15 - Nov 4^th, 2009 at 11:00am

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2009 at 10:11am:

(A. Humans have this need to feel superior to the animals because they suffer from total inferiority. This inferiority is nearly always a supressed, subconscious, ego-driven complex. Societal leaders realise this and thus pander to the citizen-slaves with zoos and races etc. The Truth is that animals are Superior, as they do not suffer the mental derangement, psychological disorders and so on that humans do.)

O..K...............

So in your obviously broad experience of mental derangement and psychological disorders, which medication works best for you?

(I'm quite fascinated, because I'm a giraffe myself)

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #16 - Nov 4^th, 2009 at 11:33am

mantra wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2009 at 11:34am:

I haven't looked into it that deeply - but I do agree it's a very cruel sport and racehorses, once they're past their use by date are sent to the glue factory, or dumped somewhere and neglected.

Actually stallions and mares are used for breeding. I doubt too many go to the knacker once they stop racing.

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #17 - Nov 4^th, 2009 at 9:47pm

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2009 at 7:27pm:

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Clueless flippin "merchant bankers"(rhyming slang for seppos too dense to figure it out, of the "plants have feelings too" variety)

Rambling.

No point using rhyming slang Mozz... He's a troppo seppo.

"Rambling" Grin

That's one thing you can rely on with yanks... no sense of irony Grin

Course, that's true of psychopaths as well Grin

... so you're on a double.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2009 at 7:27pm:

the people who race horses, are horse people,

There is no such legitimate thing as "horse people". They are toxic human citizen-slaves, and their mere presence near a horse endangers its safety.

Your mere existence is a danger.

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #18 - Nov 4^th, 2009 at 10:44pm

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I read about the maltreatment of horses before, and I think it should be stopped. I also think that we should stop the sale of non-goldfish pets since so many people don't know how to look after them. Maybe a pet licence?

Hello. The Truth is that society promotes nearly endless ways of abusing animals. Such as the insane "show dogs" system, of creating genetic freaks that are against the flow of evolution.

A pet license is a good idea, but only a few circumstances exist where humans should be able to keep animals.

Soicety is NOT going to stop, in fact society is currently accelerating its animal abuse/exploitation policies.

This is true. I think we should replace the horses with humans, and let midgets ride on their backs.

I'm pretty sure there was something like this on the news a few weeks ago... but I can't remember exactly.

What appears on the news MUST be carefully analysed from a Forbidden Truth perspective before being considered for use in any way. The media is controlled 100% by society, and only societally-approved programming is shown. There has never been any dedicated Forbidden Truth programming, nor will there ever be.

There are some humans who would not, but not many. Most humans have been successfully brainwashed by society into believing the falsehood that humans are "more important" and "above" animals, where as the Truth is quite the reverse.

I think that humans are more important than animals

See? You are brainwashed also. You are wrong, animals are Superior.

simply because we have the most developed brains

Incorrect. Humans have the WORST brain function of any animal on this planet, possibly the cosmos. THe human brain is hopelessly faulty, and ultra-deseased on a genetic AND True_Reality level.

and the ability to manipulate objects at a much more sophisticated level than any other animal.

This ability has no Truth-based value, because humans lost thier sanity and integrity in the process of this evolutionary error.

We can shape the world to our liking whereas most other animals do not have this possibility.

Incorrect. Humans are UNABLE to shape the world into any Truth-based or legitimate form. Humans cannot even maintain their environment properly.

Travis Truman.

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #19 - Nov 4^th, 2009 at 10:52pm

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(A. Humans have this need to feel superior to the animals because they suffer from total inferiority. This inferiority is nearly always a supressed, subconscious, ego-driven complex. Societal leaders realise this and thus pander to the citizen-slaves with zoos and races etc. The Truth is that animals are Superior, as they do not suffer the mental derangement, psychological disorders and so on that humans do.)

Not true.

Yes it is. You are wrong, and in Truth-denial just like so many human inferiors.

Humans higher cognitive abilities in no way compensate for the psychologial, mental and general derangement of humans.

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #20 - Nov 4^th, 2009 at 10:56pm

DARWIN

Actually stallions and mares are used for breeding. I doubt too many go to the knacker once they stop racing.

Even one is too many, and none should be subjected to human derangement.

Another example of a humans inability to grasp Truth. The idea that horses require humans or racing for breeding is insane. They cannot be legitimately "used for breeding".

All you would get is MORE horses, and the same question arises again.

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #21 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 7:13am

Because people like to ride horses, or watch races like the Melbourne Cup, there are many more horses about than would be the case otherwise. So if a gelding say is destroyed when its racing life is over and it is done humanely so what?

It is like the faulty reasoning vegetarians use: cows need so much energy to grow a kilogram of beef we should all be vegetarian. Bollocks. The food the cow eats is stuff like grass, usually in areas most unsuitable to grow oats and stuff.

We see these silly arguments now with cows burping methane. If the number of cows remains constant then they are not a net emitter of GHGs, just endless recyclers: carbon to grass to carbon

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #22 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 7:27am

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Nov 4^th, 2009 at 10:44pm:

What appears on the news MUST be carefully analysed from a Forbidden Truth perspective before being considered for use in any way. The media is controlled 100% by society, and only societally-approved programming is shown. There has never been any dedicated Forbidden Truth programming, nor will there ever be.

I do not know what you mean by The Truth or Forbidden Truth, but if you are concerned about society-controlled media, perhaps you may want to run your own newsletter.

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See? You are brainwashed also. You are wrong, animals are Superior.

Noone told or taught me to think this way, unless you think that watching cartoons depicting anthropomorphism is promoting the human way of life by forcing animals to act like humans...

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Incorrect. Humans have the WORST brain function of any animal on this planet, possibly the cosmos. THe human brain is hopelessly faulty, and ultra-deseased on a genetic AND True_Reality level.

Everyone has their own opinions. Isn't it great that you are able to argue your side of the discussion so that others may analyse and give input? I don't know what you mean by faulty and ultra-diseased, so I'm assuming you mean the power of the human analytical and creative abilities, which is so lacking in other animals.

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This ability has no Truth-based value, because humans lost thier sanity and integrity in the process of this evolutionary error.

To lose sanity is to lose soundness of judgment or reason. While there have been errors in the past, human society is adaptive and progressive. Many of these mistakes won't be repeated in the future.

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Incorrect. Humans are UNABLE to shape the world into any Truth-based or legitimate form. Humans cannot even maintain their environment properly.

What is the proper way of maintaining an environment? Why would we need to maintain such an environment? I find it amazing how we build cities and everything is run so efficiently in comparison with the past. Would you prefer that we lived in the forests without any use of tools?

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cup Reply #23 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 7:46am Darwin wrote on Dec 26^th, 1973 at 2:57pm: Actually stallions and mares are used for breeding. I doubt too many go to the knacker once they stop racing. This would only apply to the minority of "winners". There are many racehorses that don't quite make it and would have no future as breeders.
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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cup Reply #24 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 9:01am Well I can see from the narrow sampling we see here, that humans do not follow any such breeding restrictions, unforunately. I know of quite a few who definitely should never be allowed to breed.
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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #25 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 10:11am

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Because people like to ride horses, or watch races like the Melbourne Cup, there are many more horses about than would be the case otherwise. So if a gelding say is destroyed when its racing life is over and it is done humanely so what?

That was not the OP. Anyway, a horse is brutally and malevolently murdered by society, not "destroyed". THe lie-based term destroyed is simply used to delude yourselves that the animal is some kind of property.

There is no such thing as "humanely" murdering. All murders are murder acts, with the same result. This "humanely" label is used to again delude yourselves that it is a justifiable or "decent" murder act.

It is like the faulty reasoning vegetarians use: cows need so much energy to grow a kilogram of beef we should all be vegetarian.

No, it isn't like that at all. You're are not making sense.

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Re: Melbourne Cup
Reply #26 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 10:24am

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I do not know what you mean by The Truth or Forbidden Truth, but if you are concerned about society-controlled media, perhaps you may want to run your own newsletter.

I am not concerned over anything. I do run TruthMedia, but that is for My own reasons.

The Forbidden Truth means 100% factually based Truth on societal systems/institutions etc and is always 100% pure and accurate. Forbidden Truth is THE ultimate enemy of society. Due to so-called "socialisation" (brainwashing) less than .1% of humans can actually recognise and embrace Forbidden Truth.

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See? You are brainwashed also. You are wrong, animals are Superior.

Noone told or taught me to think this way,

Wrong. Virtually everything you think and believe in are just distorted reflections of what society told you to believe and what society told you you are.

WHen you look in the mirror, you dont see yourself, you see what society told you to see in yourself.

You dont have mental freedom. Society has controlled your beliefs and you dont even realise it. I could give you endless examples, but that would be another thread.

unless you think that watching cartoons depicting anthropomorphism is promoting the human way of life by forcing animals to act like humans...

This is another example of human's need to distort the reality of what they have become, and stuff it down the throats of innocent children.

Incorrect. Humans have the WORST brain function of any animal on this planet, possibly the cosmos. THe human brain is hopelessly faulty, and ultra-deseased on a genetic AND True_Reality level.

Everyone has their own opinions.

These are Truths, NOT opinions.

Isn't it great that you are able to argue your side of the discussion so that others may analyse and give input?

My arguments are Truth-based, and require no "input" from inferiors that ruin them. Society tells you to "listen to others" in an effort to COMPRIMISE the Truth, because over 99% of humans cannot recognise Truth.

I don't know what you mean by faulty and ultra-diseased, so I'm assuming you mean the power of the human analytical and creative abilities, which is so lacking in other animals.

I told you. THe psychological aspects of the human brain, its inability to recognise and accept the Forbidden Truths of life. I suggest you consult Truthmedia.8k.com for more information.

This ability has no Truth-based value, because humans lost thier sanity and integrity in the process of this evolutionary error.

To lose sanity is to lose soundness of judgment or reason.

Humanity certainly has lost soundness in judgement and reason. In fact, that is putting it too mildly. Humanity is ultra-deranged.

While there have been errors in the past, human society is adaptive and progressive. Many of these mistakes won't be repeated in the future.

All the mistakes of the past are repeated. The only legitimate "progression" society needs to make is towards Truth, but society is heading in the opposite direction.

Incorrect. Humans are UNABLE to shape the world into any Truth-based or legitimate form. Humans cannot even maintain their environment properly.

What is the proper way of maintaining an environment? Why would we need to maintain such an environment? I find it amazing how we build cities and everything is run so efficiently in comparison with the past. Would you prefer that we lived in the forests without any use of tools?

Currently, all human societies are more ultra-deseased than in the past. Humans have WREAKED the natural world. The building of cities in NO WAY compensates for the endless derangements and malevolent actions of human societies.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Melbourne Cup Reply #27 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 10:41am At this juncture, I should point out that I am a vegetarian for purely selfish reasons. - But speaking as a giraffe: "All men are enemies. All animals are comrades." - George Orwell, Animal Farm, Ch. 1
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Reply #28 - Nov 5^th, 2009 at 10:43am

well I think it is very nice of the people in the shelter to let you use the computer travis, I hope you wash the dishes to show your appreciation.

Seriously, I have heard about cut snakes, but this one has been through the magic slice and dice!

The truth is out there!
Fetch!

Sorry, I must go and enslave my genetically altered wolf now, she is wanting her brekky : )

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