It is unfortunate, and timeless, that youth proclaim a bravado, and degree of experience, that few of them actually have.
The majority would be followers, who fear that speaking against such crass, ignorant attitudes, would see them branded as wimps, or nerds, and the self doubt that plagues adolescence would make it very difficult for them to stand up against such taunts.

The degree of guidance that young men need to make that epic transition from boyhood, to adulthood, is largely missing in our society, unlike tribal cultures which recognised "rite of passage" rituals, which we do not have.
This vacuum is unfortunately filled by the alpha males in the group, who to often are over indulged, selfish little prigs, who deserve a massive kick up the bum, but instead get a new car for their efforts, from a doting family, ignorant of their true persona, and their immature attitudes towards women.

What is more shocking is you misconstruing a general observation about the "why" behind the stupid behaviour we see perpetrated by young men all over our society, and trying to turn it into a racial thing, when there is not a hint of that in anything I said, shame on you.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 10^th, 2009 at 12:49pm:

I see you still have that paranoid chip on your big muslim shoulder there abu. Nothing changes huh?

mozzaok wrote on Nov 10^th, 2009 at 9:14am:


Hooking up on this one, if we are told that women have to have scarf in some countries.

I think we have equal right to tell them to remove scarf here.

Fair?

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Asking someone to cover themselves to comply with indecent exposure laws is a little different to forcing them to expose themselves... anyone with half an iota of grey matter in their cranium can figure that one out. We do dictate how people dress here, according to our standards of public decency. Asking them to expose part of what they consider their nakedness is just nonsensical.

So you wouldn't mind exposing yourself if someone legislated that jordan?

If someone said you can't wear pants anymore, you'd be quite fine with it?

Or that you wife/daughters/mother had to walk around topless?

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 11^th, 2009 at 3:21pm:


Can't wear pants any moer?!? Topless?!?
How stupid! Since when is a Mohamedan woman's face the same as your arse in pantaloon or throwing your wife's nipples to th wind?
Do they actually train you in this sort of feeble-mindedness? Or is this something you retaind from your pre-lapsarian days??