[Reply to inferior soren
Anyone who commits a gross and hineous crime thereby denounces and disowns the rules and laws of the society he lives in.
These laws and rules are unjust and have no Truth-based legitimacy. You have not even proven that society has any right or business inventing these rules.
You betray your total mis-understanding of humanity. To you, murder is a natural default.
He puts himselves outside the protection of his society (outlaws himself).
1. Well, again you make the mistake. He does not "put himself" anywhere. Your society malevolently and unjustly decides to murder its victim-creation. You then shift the blame of your societal actions by deluding yourself that the criminal "put himself" to death.
2. Why do you presume that the default without societal law shoud be murder?
The death penalty was originally just that - you were outside the law, and anyone who killed you was not violating the sovereign laws.
Why should they kill? How can you say murder is wrong if you yourself can murder via the state?
So no such crimninal can then ask for the proptection of the very laws he blatently, knowingly violated.
1. Yes he can.
2. You are arguing illogically.
3. Your argument is based on your own insecurity and emotion.
4. He is not asking for protection. THe suggestion was that he is being unjustly murdered. Is murder a default? Yes or no?
He can't be outside the law as perpetrator but then ask for the protection of the laws when he is caught - by the agents of those laws - and tried for disregarding and violating them.
Does not matter. You cannot murder him without proving that you are also a murderer.
By your logic, since society murders millions of humans, it must be millions of times more deserving of murder-reactions than the criminal is. Therefore, by your logic, the criminal would be justified in his murders in the first place.