'Law' isn't so much about justice, the laws we have are derived from politics [the application of real power, and real violence], to constrain the freedoms of the people who are being governed, by the 'law'.

Do you consider yourself to be free?

To what extent?

Hint, if you want to be free, you have to think that you are free!
.....i.e. you have to believe that you are free.


And that is how, and why, a state which is a tranny is so powerful, i.e. tyrannies are able to convince people that they are NOT free, and that all of their 'freedoms' are the gift of the state!!!
......

"So you better be grateful to the state!!!"

Do you believe that your rights and freedoms, are derived from the [political] state which governs you?



An interesting YOUTUBE presentation.......

pt1 - The Nature and Origin of Human Rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=MkSHg3JV_V8

Reply to Yadda link


The law is nothing to do with Truth-based justice. And no, currently less than 1 in 1 million adult humans even knows what freedom entails, let alone enjoys Mental Freedom.

The idea that a significant amount of citizen-slaves have freedom is completely false.


I have freedom of intellectual thought, unlike virtually all humans.


There is never an "extent" to freedom. You either have total freedom, or no freedom at all.


You are not free, and your hint is wrong. I KNOW I have intellectual freedom. THere is no doubt at any time. Anyone who bases their "freedom" on belief, absolutely has no freedom at all.


Totally incorrect. The "state" has nothing to do with it. Society spends all of its efforts destroying your freedom. It launches a barrage of lies, myths, abuse and disdirection at its children. Society is succesful is destroying freedom in over 99.9% of cases.

At the same time, society has deluded you all that you have freedom, when you do not. It does this by changing the definitions and ideas of what freedom entails, so you all dont know what freedom actually is.


No society on Earth has ever or currently offers any legitimate form of freedom to its citizen-slaves.
Individual rights do not exist in any soicety on planet Earth.



I am not going to watch it. I imagine it is supreme-inferior material.

If you want to know about the Forbidden Truth on freedom, YouTube is certainly not the place to find it.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 5^th, 2009 at 7:55pm:

We have no choice but to be free... As a wise old frog once said, "Existentialist despair and anguish is the acknowledgement that man is condemned to freedom".

It's the consequences of our actions, however, that we would like to evade and what most of us really mean when we decide we have no freedom... Being that we are not as free to evade the judgement of what we say and do by others.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 5^th, 2009 at 2:30pm:



ANd what might be the rock on which you stand and make such a bold pronouncement? What is the unquestioned supposition underlying your statement?

What certainty do you possess that is is bold enough to say 1.?

And who has ever uttered anything remotely resembling "any legal principal or law is correct because the law says so" - other than you?

helian


He is wrong. The only legitimate form of freedom is : Mental Freedom. This is not automatic, because societies worldwide malevolently destroy this natural freedom in their citizen-slaves. Over 99.9% humans are unable to prevent this process and lose their Mental Freedom, and natural ability to recognise and embrace the Forbidden Truths of life.

You dont have freedom. Freeom is only in your mind, and your mind is conditioned and socialized by society.


You are not you. You are just a compisite, a distorted reflection of what everyone else is and what they taught you. You are not Mentally Free.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 12:16am:

You're free to commit actions... and bound (even against your will) by their consequences when they're imposed on you by others.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 12:16am:

And 78.25% of statistics are made up on the fly

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 12:16am:

Conditioned by many influences including genes, your family and friends.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 12:16am:

Schizophrenic gibberish. You are the product of many influences, sure. But if you could extract them all from your personality, you wouldn't find a 'real you', you'd find nothing.

Reply to supreme inferior helian


Yes, listening to mythical talking frogs, now.


No life form has any legitimate business in passing judgement and consequences onto another. In nature, this never happens.

To suggest that being free to choose your course of action (even if unpunished) constitutes Mental Freedom is incorrect.
You do NOT get to choose what the choices are. You cannot choose your True Reality.

Most citizen-slaves are too broken, too mentally conditioned by society to even know their real True Reality core, the Truth, or have the ability to decide to do societally-demonised actions such as  murder, wearing of underpants in the street on a hot day, public  urination and so on.
So, your minds are not free. You are restrited by what society makes you think.


Incorrect response. 99.99999% of humans are Truth hating, Truth rejecting and inferior. Just like you.

Seer TT : "You dont have freedom. Freeom is only in your mind, and your mind is conditioned and socialized by society."


Genes do not condition your behaviour, let alone your mind against Truth, reality or nature. Society does. You dont get it. Family and friends are just arbitrary ideas that society reflected upon you, that you see in True Reality. They are ALSO brainwased citizen-slaves of society, and you just reflect each other.

Seer TT : "You are not you. You are just a compisite, a distorted reflection of what everyone else is and what they taught you. You are not Mentally Free."


Why would you suggest to find nothing, unless you thought you are the product victim-creation of society?
Society is based on lies an myths. It is based on abusing children. Take away all the lies, distortions, unnatural experiances, dogmas, myths and you would still have life experiances. Just not toxic ones reflected upon you by a malevolent lie-based society.

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 10:47am:



LOL


Sounds like a reasonable conclusion to make, on the available evidence.               

That is precisely because you are a Truth-rejecting inferior. In no way was the conclusion based on the premise.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

Aw shucks, thanks mate

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

Yeah… he'd sit on a rock in my backyard pond, while I kicked back on a deck chair smoking a cigar. He’d quote, from memory, Sartre’s ‘Being and Nothingness’ (appropriate, I thought, seeing he was a frog). I’d quote Bukowski, though rarely from memory.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

Well, they do it anyway… Birds do it, bees do it, even old macaques with fleas do it. Check out a tribe of baboons one day when you’re overseas… Watch them torment each other playing simian politics.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

Well then, ‘True Reality’ is unknowable, even by you.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

Without ‘society’ what meaning does ‘freedom’ have?

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

On speaking to Mr Google, make that 82.3% of statistics are made up on the fly

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

As you cannot escape genes and you too have had family (although maybe no friends), you cannot know what existence would be like without genetic predilection and people determining to a large degree what you think and how you feel. And if you’ve had no friends, then you cannot know the truths that friendship reveals.

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 6^th, 2009 at 1:25pm:

Somebody hurt you Travis Truman? Made you schizy?

Take away your ‘society’ and you and I would not be communicating in English… You would not be communicating at all… You would, in all likelihood, be dead, having never made it past infancy.

Reply to supreme inferior helian


Only an inferior would react that way.


The simple fact that any claimed wisdom would be presented via a talking frog story proves that the source is inferior. Your pathetic attempts to sidetrack only make your folly worse.

Seer TT previous revealed :
"No life form has any legitimate business in passing judgement and consequences onto another. In nature, this never happens."


"Politics" is nothing to do with what I said. Your claim that bees and baboons make moralistic judgements and sentencing punishments akin to those in human justice systems if totally incorrect and deluded.

One more supereme inferior response of this calabre, you risk permanent rejection of My Superior texts.


Incorrect. I know what My True Reality entails, because I have access to the Forbidden Truth. I suggest you find out what True Reality entails and think a bit more carefully.


Without society, freedom is absolute, and Truth-based. With society, 99.9999% of ALL humans has no legitimate freedom, or Mental Freedom.


Yes, you choose to continue to choose the path of inferiority. That is your loss.


Incorrect. The Seer knows the Forbidden Truth that society's claims that genes effect behaviours and emotional/psychological states is completely lie-based. I do not need to "escape" My genes to know what the Truth is, and such suggestion is ridiculous and perverse.



The Seer's thinking and ability to recognise Truth is 100% uneffected by any external influence or attack. It is invincible.

You do not know anything about the Truth. What you think constitutes Truth is a pathetic lie.

Having "friends" cannot reveal any Truth about friendships, unless you are already a Seer of Forbidden Truth. However, "friendships" as defined by society are nothing more than toxic needs, clung to by inferiors.


This is not a succint answer. I can assure you, it is your mind that is comprimised.


To suggest that the enourmous benefits of not living in a toxic human society could be negated because of inability to communicate with an inferior like you is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever seen you humans produce.


This claim has no Truth-based legitimacy. The Truth is humans are murdering their womb-trapped children at a massive rate, and so a lot of humans do not make it past even 1 year of age. Then there is war deaths, disaters, murderous rampages, fatal child abuse, self murder(suicide) and so on. These murders and accidents caused by society would make up the death-toll numbers easily past any pre-society levels.

While humans do die young in nature often, this in no way comprimised any natural life's Truth-based legitimacy.

Supreme inferior helian is placed on permanent ban from recieving Superior texts. The tragedy is that his deformed, and malfunctioning brain continues to waste oxygen.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 7^th, 2009 at 7:16am:


helian, helian!!

I'm excited!

Does this mean that you are coming over to the 'other side' on the issue of ISLAM???

Just wondering?         

Seer Travis Truman wrote on Sep 12^th, 2009 at 11:34pm:

Oops... looks like they left the door to the ward unlocked this evening... Seems the seer's got his hands on a laptop again.