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Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
Sep 1st, 2009 at 9:16am
 
Within ISLAM, the rape and dishonouring of captive women, is halal [kosher, acceptable].



ABU SAID,

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 31st, 2009 at 2:02pm:
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And how, as you understand it, the rape of captive women, by moslem men, IS JUSTIFIED WITHIN ISLAM, and is not fornication.


Raping is not permitted in Islam in any case, and I challenge you to produce any Islamic text claiming it is.




AND, ABU SAID,

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What you need to realise is that
in the Bible (ie. According to the "God of Israel") and the Islamic texts, this is not considered fornication, but is considered like marriage, and the man has a duty of care to clothe, feed and house the woman, just like a wife.






abu is in denial, abu keeps denying that moslem religious texts condone, or allow, the rape of captive women.

Or, he 'weasels' into a position, that if moslem religious texts do condone, or allow, non-consensual sex with women, it is because moslem men are taking on the burden of 'protecting' and 'providing' for those women.

LIAR.


abu,

I will present the evidence [from ISLAM's own foundation texts], and let others judge for themselves, between you and me, and judge [relating to what ISLAM allows] who's words and assertions have more credibility, yours, or mine.



The Hadith itself, is a testimony against the pirate raider Mohammed, and his own men.

The Hadith itself, gives the testimony that Mohammed and his men commonly raped captive women.

And, the Hadith itself, is a testimony that Mohammed and his men were not 'marrying', or establishing 'a duty of care to clothe, feed and house' these captive women.

The Hadith itself, gives the testimony that some of these captive women would be 'dishonoured' [raped by their moslem captors] and then be offered back to their menfolk, to redeem them, with a ransom price.


FROM THE HADITH.....

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = describing some form of raiding party, where Mohammed, and his men, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what this means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust. This sounds like fornication to me. So why weren't Mohammed and his men stoned to death???

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, their moslem captors sought to sexually 'use', and shame, these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them. How honourable of these moslem men. /sarc off

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

FROM THE HADITH, END.

These [above] Hadith verses are cited, with references, here [in another thread],

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8


Comment:

Q.
How can a person tell that ISLAM's foundation texts [the Koran and Hadith] are a crock?

A.
Just read them, for yourself! e.g....

"Ye [muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah...."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110

The Koran and Hadith, what a made up, self serving, self honouring, crock of moral sewage.






ALSO, please listen to these YOUTUBE audio presentations, which explain 'clarify' a few things,

Part 067 - Dilemma of Muhammadan Muslims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dd7adRI5q4
a complete culture of denial

Part 048 - Male Muhammadan Characteristics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6YOzjx5ZzM

Part 009 - Was Muhammad a Prophet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFoj7z2ABQE

Part 033 - Muhammad's Compassion and Mercy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQHjtrpGtfg

Part 188A - Islam's Culture of DENIAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSXMuJMuUH0

Part 188B - Islam's Culture of DENIAL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWmy1BHZTTY


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Re: Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
Reply #1 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 9:17am
 
#1 - ISLAM sanctions the rape of captive women, in time of war, or Jihad,
.....BECAUSE THE ANCIENT JEWS ALSO DID IT.



The position of many good moslems today is,

"The ancient Hebrews did it [3,400 years ago]. There are many accounts of it in the Bible.
...So why are you hypocrites whining about this, when we moslems do this too?"




abu_rashid wrote on Aug 31st, 2009 at 2:02pm:
Anyway, the "God of Israel" seems to have no such problem with sleeping with captive women...

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As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

Or this one?

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"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.  But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb.  After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.  However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
(Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

Or perhaps this one?

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They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.
(Judges 5:30)




abu,

Thank you for that.



The Jewish supremacism [the Jews were 1 of 12 tribes of Israel], which you cite above, is historic, and stopped at the borders of their 'promised land', 3,400 years ago.

Q.
Yet why do moslems want to point to these OT texts?

A.
Because [being the only 'rightly guided' people], then in the next breathe, moslems can thereby legitimise moslem barbarity today, by pointing to what the ancient Hebrews did 3,400 years ago.

Moslem logic on this point seems to go...

"Why are you castigating and rebuking moslems about such barbarities? The Jews did these things too, 3,400 years ago!! So don't rebuke moslems, because WE MOSLEMS, are God's 'chosen people' too!!"


Pathetic.

What idiocy, and a total hypocrisy, of the moslems who are LIVING TODAY, to justify their barbaric acts IN TODAY'S WORLD,
....by pointing to what Jews did, 3,400 years ago.

But we should not be surprised, because projection [of blame onto their victims] is the favourite defence of moslems.

Moslems have ALWAYS blamed and accused their victims, of the wickedness which is in their own moslem hearts.
e.g.
WTC, 9/11 - The Jews did it, aided by the CIA.
London, 7/7 - An atrocity secretly planned and executed by the UK government, so that UK moslems would be blamed.


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ISLAM is a deceptive and violent philosophy, a cult, which creates a mental pathology, in those human beings who embrace its doctrines.


"Islam specifically forbids killing of non-combat"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251160915/1#1


Truth is, that Muhammad and his ilk, were eaten up with cultural jealousy over the Jews [their genetic cousins] being the 'chosen people' of their God, to the apparent exclusion of Arab people.

So Muhammad, inspired by who knows what!, manufactured his very own religious paradigm, where he becomes the new ISLAMIC "Moses" AND messiah.

KORAN...
"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. "

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/...


And, in this new religious paradigm, 'properly guided' Arabs, become the newly 'chosen people' of Allah [their rock god], and the Jewish people are pronounced 'discarded' by Allah.

KORAN...
"Ye [muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/...

And remember, all of the words of the 'inerrant' Koran, are the utterings of Allah, which came through, which were 'revealed' through, the lips of one man.

Mohammed himself.






Believe what you will.
....we all do!






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Re: Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
Reply #2 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 9:18am
 
CONTINUED FROM LAST POST.....




#2 - ISLAM sanctions the rape of captive women, in time of war, or Jihad,
.....BECAUSE THE ANCIENT JEWS ALSO DID IT.



One recent graphic example of this practice,

A recent news item highlighting this ISLAMIC-ally sanctioned practice.....


"I TOOK HER AS MY CAPTIVE WIFE - ALLAH MADE ME DO IT!"



...
Amanda Lindhout - somebody's daughter...
Canadian journalist kidnapped, raped, she is still being held captive in Somalia.

She is now pregnant to one of her kidnappers.




April 8, 2009
Somalia: Islamists rape, and impregnate, Canadian captive
MOGADISHU --Amanda Lindhout, a Canadian journalist who was abducted by habar-gidir .. hawiye al-shabaab wing gunmen in the Somali capital Mogadishu about eight months ago is reportedly pregnant after she was apparently raped by her abductors.
......Some reports suggest that one the abductors made Amanda as his wife...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025592.php
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/25/somalia-canadian.html


Google,
somalia canadian journalist kidnapped pregnant
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=somalia+canadian+journalist+kidnapped+pr...







And i hope that you non-moslems have informed yourself, and that you are aware, that,

ISLAM HAS DECLARED UNENDING WAR [FOR ALLAH'S LAW], UPON ALL WESTERN NATIONS.


All good moslems believe that in their Jihad, that they are sanctioned to rape 'captive' women, in the lands of war,
....as a method to terrorise the enemies of Allah.


And the ISLAMIC doctrine on Kafir, being espoused to moslem communities today, in mosques,
....is that ALL Western nations [which are hosting moslem communities] are Dar al Harb [the Land of War].

Anjem Choudary - a UK moslem community leader here on YOUTUBE, explains ISLAM's position, to the dumb Kuffar,

"...when we say innocent people, we mean muslims."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a muslim....i must have *hatred* towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[muslims] allegence is always with the muslims, so i will never condemn a muslim for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4




AND,


ISLAMIC 'religious' doctrine, divides the world into two camps.

DIVISIONS OF THE WORLD, ACCORDING TO ISLAM,


Dar al-Islam = = the house of Islam, house of Peace [those places where Sharia has authority].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Islam

Dar al-Harb = = "house of war", those countries where Sharia does not rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Harb

Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war", a non-moslem, WHO DOES NOT LIVE UNDER MUSLIM RULE.

".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live." [a direct quote]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi

Google,
"A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22A+harbi+has+no+rights%2C+no...




Be aware, that if you are a non-moslem, good moslems consider you, and everything which you own, as potential 'war booty', including your women.

Allah himself has declared that war booty, the spoils of war, have been made lawful to Muhammad [and moslems],

"And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger......"

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/...


THE SPOILS OF WAR 'HAVE BEEN MADE LAWFUL',

From the Hadith.....

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me:"

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...


"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...

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Re: Rape your 'war booty', its OK, say ISLAMIC texts
Reply #3 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 9:52am
 
Yadda,

I challenged you to show where in the Islamic texts is says _RAPE_ is permitted. You have not done that. None of the texts you brought say anything about rape. They merely speak about relations with captives, which we already know was in the Islamic texts.

So nothing new here...

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The Koran and Hadith, what a made up, self serving, self honouring, crock of moral sewage.


Since all of the supposedly vile and evil things you claim exist in the Qur'an also exist in your own Bible, one would have to assume you have the same evaluation about the Bible also?

You can attempt to wash it over as..

Quote:
BECAUSE THE ANCIENT JEWS ALSO DID IT


But the fact is the "God of Israel" actually commands those things. This is the dilemma for you, is that it's not just the practice of ancient Jews, it's actually the COMMAND of your own God, whom you call the "God of Israel".

Every single one of the claims you make against Islam, can be found in your own book, being COMMANDED by your God, the "God of Israel", and if these things are inherently evil, then the "God of Israel" is a commander of evil. Time periods have no bearing on this whatsoever. If you claim these things are inherently evil, then they've always been evil, and therefore you worship an evil being "The God of Israel".

You could however adjust your argument and say "Well actually these things used to be good and things God would command, but today we don't think they're so good to do, but they're not inherently evil, as at one point in time, the God of Israel actually commanded them".

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Reply #4 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 10:17am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 1st, 2009 at 9:52am:
Yadda,

I challenged you to show where in the Islamic texts is says _RAPE_ is permitted.
You have not done that. None of the texts you brought say anything about rape. They merely speak about relations with captives, which we already know was in the Islamic texts.

So nothing new here...

Quote:
The Koran and Hadith, what a made up, self serving, self honouring, crock of moral sewage.


Since all of the supposedly vile and evil things you claim exist in the Qur'an also exist in your own Bible, one would have to assume you have the same evaluation about the Bible also?

You can attempt to wash it over as..

Quote:
BECAUSE THE ANCIENT JEWS ALSO DID IT


But the fact is the "God of Israel" actually commands those things. This is the dilemma for you, is that it's not just the practice of ancient Jews, it's actually the COMMAND of your own God, whom you call the "God of Israel".

Every single one of the claims you make against Islam, can be found in your own book, being COMMANDED by your God, the "God of Israel", and if these things are inherently evil, then the "God of Israel" is a commander of evil. Time periods have no bearing on this whatsoever. If you claim these things are inherently evil, then they've always been evil, and therefore you worship an evil being "The God of Israel".

You could however adjust your argument and say "Well actually these things used to be good and things God would command, but today we don't think they're so good to do, but they're not inherently evil, as at one point in time, the God of Israel actually commanded them".





abu,

I reply, as cited above [in this thread].....

Quote:

I will present the evidence [from ISLAM's own foundation texts], and let others judge for themselves, between you and me, and judge [relating to what ISLAM allows] who's words and assertions have more credibility, yours, or mine.





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Reply #5 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 10:25am
 
In other words, you're not up to the challenge.

As I thought, you cannot produce any such evidence of Islam permitting rape, because it simply doesn't exist.

And as I suspected, you'll now completely dodge the issue of 'relations with captives' being commanded and permitted by the "God of Israel" (ie. your God).

So are 'relations with captives' inherently evil Yadda?

Is the practice of raiding cities and taking women and property as "booty" inherently evil?

Is capital punishment for adultery inherently evil?

Are any of your claims against Islam things which are inherently evil?

Or are they all specific to time-period?
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Reply #6 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 10:47am
 
yaddas quotes (albeit a bit rambling) to say to me rape and pillaging nonmuslims is recommended.

"relations with captives" is immoral at the least. The japanese called them "comfort women"
yes, raiding cities and overrunning them is evil
beheading adulterers is inhumane, extremist and cruel.
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Reply #7 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 11:04am
 
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"relations with captives" is immoral at the least.


So when the "God of Israel", who you believe is Jesus (pbuh) right? Commanded and permitted these things, he was commanding and permitting immoral things?

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yes, raiding cities and overrunning them is evil


Again, so your God commanded and permitted evil?

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beheading adulterers is inhumane, extremist and cruel.


And once more... Jesus (pbuh) commanded something inhumane, extremist and cruel?
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are those insinuations in the OT ?


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are those insinuations in the OT ?


Are you saying you don't even believe the OT is a valid book? ie. you don't even believe in it (regardless of whether you practice it's injunctions)??
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Reply #10 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 11:47am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 1st, 2009 at 10:25am:
In other words, you're not up to the challenge.

As I thought, you cannot produce any such evidence of Islam permitting rape, because it simply doesn't exist.

And as I suspected, you'll now completely dodge the issue of 'relations with captives' being commanded and permitted by the "God of Israel" (ie. your God).

So are 'relations with captives' inherently evil Yadda?





abu,

Isn't this a bit of an irrelevant question, seeing as i don't have any captives at the moment, and i can't envisage acquiring any in the short term?



Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:
9  The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.


Galatians 4:3
Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
4  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5  To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6  And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7  Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
8  Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9  But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?i

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Is the practice of raiding cities and taking women and property as "booty" inherently evil?

Is capital punishment for adultery inherently evil?

Are any of your claims against Islam things which are inherently evil?

Or are they all specific to time-period?





abu,

Yes, and no.


Today, for non-Jews, the old testament, is for teaching, and reference.

Why is that?

Because, if people, any person, wants to participate in it, there is a new testament, a new covenant in place,
....between the God of Israel, and his people.




1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3  And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5  But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6  Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7  Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8  Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9  Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10  Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11  Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.



Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34  And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.





abu,

Believe what you will.
....we all do!

Our choice.






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Isn't this a bit of an irrelevant question, seeing as i don't have any captives at the moment, and i can't envisage acquiring any in the short term?


Right... but I supposedly do?

Anyway that wasn't the question, the question is whether it's an inherently evil practice? Can you please answer that one?

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Because, if people, any person, wants to participate in it, there is a new testament, a new covenant in place,
....between the God of Israel, and his people.


Again, not what I asked. I asked if it's inherently evil.

As for the new covenant, that's fine, that's what you believe in, but I believe in the Qur'an. Which you claim is evil. I want to know, once more, whether you mean the things mentioned in the Qur'an are inherently evil, or just not good in certain time periods?
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Reply #12 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 12:15pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 1st, 2009 at 11:55am:
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Isn't this a bit of an irrelevant question, seeing as i don't have any captives at the moment, and i can't envisage acquiring any in the short term?


Right... but I supposedly do?

Anyway that wasn't the question, the question is whether it's an inherently evil practice? Can you please answer that one?






abu,

Almost all things which men do, are evil, and unacceptable to our God.

Do you still require an answer to your question abu?

Then, read again, the specific Hadith quote below, and please, answer your own question.


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"We.......took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them,.......So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them..."


i


Quote:
Quote:
Because, if people, any person, wants to participate in it, there is a new testament, a new covenant in place,
....between the God of Israel, and his people.


Again, not what I asked. I asked if it's inherently evil.

As for the new covenant, that's fine, that's what you believe in, but
I believe in the Qur'an. Which you claim is evil. I want to know, once more, whether you mean the things mentioned in the Qur'an are inherently evil, or just not good in certain time periods?






I believe that the OT & the NT scripture, was inspired by the spirit of God.

And i believe that the Koran, and Hadith, most certainly, was not!







abu,

Believe what you will.
....we all do!

Our choice.







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Reply #13 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 1:18pm
 

abu - you will have to give me direct quotes with references.
I could have accepted your claims on quotes, but you forced me to find quotes form the hadiths, so you find quotes from the OT.

hows them apples?

it's a pity muslims are so small minded and blinkered.
they absolutely refuse to accept that the murderous assassainating mohammad did anyhting wrong.
they refuse any discussion on it.

so, run away and find quotes my brainwashed friend.
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Reply #14 - Sep 1st, 2009 at 2:05pm
 
Yadda,

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Almost all things which men do, are evil, and unacceptable to our God.


But according to your Bible, it was actually _COMMANDED_ by the "God of Israel" (ie. your God), not just a mere action of men.

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Do you still require an answer to your question abu?


But you didn't even answer, you just said almost all things men do are evil.

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I believe that the OT & the NT scripture, was inspired by the spirit of God.

And i believe that the Koran, and Hadith, most certainly, was not!


That's fine, and you're entitled to do so.

But drop the claims that you make this choice based on Islam teaching inherently evil things. Because it's quite clear the "God of Israel" once upon a time, commanded the very same things, and more.
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