Yes I would marry, and have

Hope it makes your blood boil 

What is opposing skin colour...?  Seems a strange turn of phrase exhibiting negativism and animus.

are we talking skin color here or other races..

Interracial can mean more than one thing.

merou wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2009 at 8:56pm:

Pink. 

Sure would. It's people's hearts and beliefs that are important, as well as their culture, not their skin that matters. At all.

I give you "The Indian Bride!"

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:45am:

What a wanker. 

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:45am:

You would want to be carefull not to impregnate one or your world could come crashing down

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How about everyone just chooses who they want to marry for themselves? How's that for a radical plan?

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It will be for Australians anyway, I'm a mixture of Scottish and Irish, both of my great Grandfathers came to Australia in the mid to late 1800s and I'll guarantee that I'm much darker in skin tone than either of them, its the ENVIROMENT we live in as well that dictates what we look like.
As for eye colors, I've got blue eyes my wife has brown and our son ended up with green out of that mix, he was lucky brown usually dominates over blue, but my point is I doubt many blue eyed people will be walking around in a few hundred years because with the migration of people now days all over the world genes are being mixed like never before. But, is that a bad thing? I don't think so, I think it will just make a stronger human being, if you liken it to dogs, mixed breeds have much less problems and are usually healthier than purebreds.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 7:54am:

Sprint, please... Get your hand off it.

Weren't you a Kiwi once? Aren't Maoris so mixed that there are no full bloods left? No one is more than half Maori these days? Doesn't seem to have affected their identity as Maoris.

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OK, if you prescribe to the theory of evolution we all came out of Africa and we all have a black ancestor.
On the other hand, if you believe in God, where were Adam and Eve born? were they white or Arab in appearance?
Now I know it takes more than a few generations to change color but over time it does seem to have happenned to people based on the environment they lived in.

As for the eyes, well if you  manipulate something anything can happen, but if we left it to the normal genetic changes that happen, I doubt blue eyed people would survive for more than a few more hundred years.

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Quite happy how I look thanks. Unlike yourself, I'm not as fixated on physical characteristics and assigning some supposed link between colours of certain body cells and intellect, or even human worth.

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So let me get this right... you'd like laws that regulate who one can and cannot reproduce with?

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If they're not beneficial, then they'll be swept aside.. sorry. That's the way genetics works, doesn't it?

You should be happy that your progeny will one day benefit from such strengthening of the gene pool.

And surely you must realise, there is no "white nation", it's a load of bollocks. Most whites simply don't subscribe to your ridiculously racist views. You're effectively fighting for the purity & 'survival' of a race which scorns and disowns you. What kind of a futile endeavour is that? Why would you want to preserve something which rejects your very preservation attempt?

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

That is because you have a completely unscientific conception of human biodiversity, and despite abandoning the liberal paradigm by converting to Islam you merely exchanged one universalist miasma for another.  You babble about racism like any other liberal clown.

I'm not sure what's "supposed" about the link you're talking about, as racial variation in intelligence is extremely well documented.  There has been no convergence between the races on general intelligence scores despite tremendous intervention, and of course it has been known for a century that the races differ in brain size.  Recent research has shown different distributions of genes like MCPH1 and ASPM which relate to cognitive function.  Perhaps you believe Allah endowed us all with the same intellectual capacity?

As for human worth, that's a a matter of perspective and distance.  If I was black, then blacks would be worth more to me than whites.  As it is I am white can care more about my fellow whites, and the only black population I have any great concern for is of course American blacks.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

I'm not sure such laws are necessary due to rapidly advancing genetic engineering techniques, but in the past they certainly were and I am very thankful that the United States and other English colonial projects strongly discouraged miscegenation, unlike the Spanish and Portuguese ones.  The results of that are clear for everyone to see.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

Evolution "selects" for traits propagate themselves more successfully, that is to say which are reproduced more.  That does not mean beneficial in the sense most humans conceive of the term.  Since the advent of birth control and liberalism for instance, the less intelligent have propagated themselves  more successfully than the more intelligent.  Is low intelligence beneficial?  

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

What strengthening?  Fertility in the industrialized West has been dysgenic for over a century.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

There are many white nations--including the one you live in.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

These "ridiculous" views were fairly standard until quite recently, and those of us never gullible enough to swallow liberalism have evolved the views into something more sophisticated due to scientific advances in sociobiology, evolutionary psychology, and population genetics.  And as you well know Abu, liberalism is dying.  Ideals which support the health and rejuvenvation of our people are growing more popular and common, and will ultimately triumph--unless you and your ilk succeed in having us replaced by sundry Mohammedan aliens (or in the case of my country, Mestizo hispanics).

oznationalist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 2:12pm:
This is tremendously oversimplistic.  The effect of hybridization depends on how inbred the respective breeding populations are and on their genetic distance.  The situation you are referring to is known as outbreeding depression, which tends to occur with greater genetic distance between sufficient diverse populations.  In such hybridization coadapted gene complexes conferring fitness are usually lost.  There is also the possibility of disadvantageous combination of alleles (e.g., while this doesn't happen, imagine a combination of Asian physical abilities with African intelligence).

In different circumstances hybridization can result in hybrid vigor, in which the hybridized variant has superior genetic fitness.  Most commercial seeds are hybrids for instance, as plant lines are very inbred (except for certain "heirloom seeds") to maximize very specifically selected traits.  Note however that farmers buy new hybrid seeds every years, as hybrid vigor tends to disappear by the second generation.

In human hybridization, hybrid vigor does not occur nor does outbreeding depression, though occasionally coadapted gene complexes are lost resulting in the hybrid potentially being more vulnerable to certain diseases.  It's not anything significant however, and the reason to avoid miscegenation is social.

CS - Wait till your family have been caught up in a racist driven political ideology... Wait until your family have by omission or commission been complicit in the implementation of that racist political ideology, are the victims of it or have had to endure it, and then have to live with what they did do or didn't do or should have done before you dribble on safe from the responsibility of having to see what your toxic ideology inflicts on the innocent.

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That already happenned when "your people" started breeding outside the extended family.
Less than two hundred years ago it was still common in "white society" to marry ones cousin, its still obvious among the European royal families, they're all inter bred, Prince Phillip is the Queens cousin even tho he belonged to the Greek royal family.
All that said, you can not be sure you are of "pure blood lines" any more than the next bloke, who knows what ones great grandma got up to.

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You know the old saying... If you can't bedazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bovine faeces.

Using a lot of scientific jargon like that, is a tactic of hardcore fanatical racists like CoralSea, beecause they think it adds an air of sophistication to their crap. At the end of the day though it's just the same old hate-filled garbage, but wrapped up in a more technical sounding package.

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Can you give some evidence for this? There is strong evidence that people seek out, via smell, potential partners with significantly different immune systems. The affinity you describe is not inherent at all, but cultural.

Also, what evidence do you have that the couplings are more successful? The problems inherent to inbreeding are well known. Any 'advantage' would be found only in vanity, in the same way that the freaks produced by inbreeding dogs appeals to people's vanity, but is of little other benefit to the individual dog.

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How would they be better off? Do you mean in terms of cultural barriers, genetics, or something else?

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No-one is suggesting we create that, merely that we don't let vanity or other miguided notions stand in the way of something that is natural. We shouldn't let misinformation about genertics create yet another barrier to people's happiness. These silly notions of kinship used to go back to the clan. Now no-one cares. Then it went to regions, then to nations like Irish and Scottish. Now no-one cares about that either. Now the groupings are even broader and more difficult to pin down. But they too will go the same way. In a few hundred years no-one will really care any more, except a few inbred backwater hicks clinging onto antiquated notions of superiority. This talk of racial purity will sound just as stupid as somone with an Irish surname refusing to talk to someone with a Scottish one. If we do become a world of coffee coloured people, no-one will care. It will not be the end of the world. It will not mean an end to variety. It will mean that the variety we experience is genuine and not superficial. It will mean that if you travelled the world, instead of hearing distinctly coloured people in distinct dialects saying the same stupid thing over and over again, you would see indistinctly coloured people using a universal tounge to speak their own unique view. Much of the world is already like this. The music scene is probably leading the way in this. There is an explosion of new styles and messages. These used to originate from ethnic groups, and used to form part of an ethnic identity. Not any more. Ethnicity rarely matters. What matters is what sort of music appeals to you. By comparison, the music scene a few centuries ago was boring. It was stagnated by unchanging regional styles. I did the heal and toe polka in primary school. I think it is a cruel thing to make a child do.

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While that is the currently accepted theory, it will no doubt turn out to be an oversimplificiation. We are only scratching the surface on how genes and the inherentance of traits work. Plus, I'm sure plenty of pasty white genetic material has already been removed from Australia's gene pool through skin cancer and death through exposure.

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Do you know what hybrid vigour actually means? It does not mean successful in the way you would want your children to be succesful. It means the freak begets another freak, with a lot of assistance from the master.

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Sure we are. That's why white couples have white babies and black couples have black babies. Or am I missing something? Are you looking for thre human equivalent of a sausage dog?

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No you wouldn't. The genetic diversity would still be there.

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Complete bullshit.

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No they don't coral see. Not at all. No surprise that someone sprouting white superiority has no understanding of basic genetics.

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Yes they do. They have a big impact on reproductive success. For starters, dead people don't have sex.

maybe CS feels he has very justified reasons for disliking islam and expresses himself very well.

I believe I have very justified reasons for disliking islam, I also believe that is why I am banned from most muslim chatrooms and abus forum here.

It is muslims pride, arrogance and end goal that necessitates them to ban me.
When one is completely contained within a murderous cult, any opposition must be stopped.
There is no freedom or spiritual expression in islam.
It is a steel straitjacket, any dissenters are dealt with.
The intensity with which a muslim deals with a dissenter proves his "strength of belief."
There is no compassion.

So I also strongly dislike islam.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

In other words, we're talking about the destruction of existing identities.  Naturally the emergent new identities (or identity) will function, just as the destruction of the tribe in Europe allowed for the emergence of nations.  Some of us however would prefer to keep our existing identities, and from the perspective of any particular people it is in their interest to perpetuate themselves rather than be subsumed to a larger group and thus destroyed.  Many tribes and minor nations in Europe fought to keep their peoples alive for centuries, and some are now even succeeding in reemerging.

Looking at the global picture, were Europids and Northeast Asians destroyed through miscegenation the world would lose a tremendous amount of intelligence which would be problematic.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

Gene expression can be changed through environment, but thus far epigenetics is thought to be an example of phenotypic plasticity.  However, neo-Lamarckianism does have increasing respectability, but there aren't any examples (yet) of Lamarckian feedback having occurred.  It's going to be fun to see the research that comes out about this in the future.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

What age does skin cancer typically develop?  Generally it seems to me that most cancers develop a bit later in life, and thus are not a barrier to reproductive success--just a tragedy.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

Yes, I realize what hybrid vigor means.  Your comment is helpful though, as many people confuse successful genetics with how we normally define success.  My original point was that heterosis does not result in any kind of human hybridization, which is in fact one argument race deniers (wrongly) cite.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

Yes, I meant the latter.

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

Could you explain how the amalgamation of existing genetic clusters would not result in a loss of genetic diversity?

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

Nonsense.  No psychometricians seriously dispute the link between race and IQ, the only question is whether or not it is principally genetic or environmental.  As IQ is strongly heritable in individuals, the parsimonious explanation is that the same is true for populations.  Northeast Asians have the highest, whites are next, then various Southeast Asians and non-Europid Caucasoids, then American Indians, then blacks, and finally various Capoids and Australoids.

character limit reached

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 11:40pm:

Talk to me when half your family's buried under Mauthausen, you soft Yankee turd.

Where were you and your lily white guild when the fight was on?

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:19am:

Not Jewish, Don't know if your are.

My family paid the price to rid the world of racist (racialist) filth like you.

Take your pansy drivel, stick it up your arse and remember your founding fathers and your great patriots, the likes of Martin Luther King, and atone for who the bugger you turned out to be.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:33am:

And a bullsh!t artist to boot. You wrote it, you're just not fast enough to take it back.
Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:33am:

Believe me, Yankee boy we've done our bit. we've paid up. You?
Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:33am:

Your great patriot, and world citizen, Martin Luther King, had a dream... You got the kind of sh!t that made the need for King.
Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:33am:

That's the thing about you pansies, it's all got to be nice, no matter what you vomit.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

T'weren't only Jews the Nazis murdered... These were 'racialists' who'd gotten a taste for serial killing. That and training kids to have a pathological, murderous hatred for 'the other' for no other reason than that they are 'the other'. Breeding up the human instinctive suspicion of the stranger into a psychotic need to kill him.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:53am:
Anti-racist religion... Wake up to yourself.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:53am:
Crap.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

Well, he sure perceived that arrogance comes before a fall and like a good and loyal prophet, he told it to his people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOOL3BYaIEQ

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:53am:
And we can't have dem n!ggers gettin' all uppity bout their rights, now can we... When dey gonna learn dem's human rights... Not black person rights.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 1:53am:

Boo hoo.

CS, yes, whenever any group say they want "equality", it means they want something for no effort.
Just because others have someting they don't have, they want it too.

things that are different are not equal. Equality is nonsense, it's a leftard dream

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 10:58am:

That kind of statement can only be said by someone who enjoys the luxury of taking his human rights for granted.

Never had to fight for much, eh Sprint?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 26^th, 2009 at 3:44pm:

Are you seriously trying to equate, say not having a Ferrari or a yacht, to the struggle for civil rights? Because if you are, you're about as vacuous as a toothpaste commercial.

CS - you are probably aware the most desirable countries to live in are those run and mainly populated by whites.
Sweden, denmark, iceland.

the ones least desirable to live in are run and populated mainly by blacks.
eg most of africa.

Course, the antiracists foth at the mouth at those plain facts.

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Unlike you, I don't hate any people merely based on their ethnic origins. I judge people by their actions, not by their skin colour, eye colour, whether they're diabetic, have poor eyesight, attached lobes, double-jointed, cross-eyed or any other arbitrary physical feature of which they themselves had absolutely NO CHOICE whatsoever in.

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That's right, but you don't need to have lived 500 years ago for my point to be relevant. If whites are superior as you claim, then we'd expect to find them militarily/political/economically dominant all throughout history, but we simply don't. Therefore your point about white countries being affluent today means nothing, other than they happen to be probably a bit more racist than other previous world powers, and tend to work with only other white nations to increase their dominance in those spheres collectively.

Coral Sea wrote on Aug 27^th, 2009 at 3:06am:

Spruiked as such only by those to whom such dignities are extended without question or demand and fought for by those for whom they are denied.

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hahahah abu, you know how to bring up the losing topics !!!!!
I'm very happy with aussie and want it to remain as it is.
Not some paedophile worshipping poverty stricken 3rd world muslim ghetto.
rhodesia was africa fruit bowl when under white control.
Now under blacks it is the begging bowl.
hey, stick to your starving diseased morals though - and beg from the whites to keep you, your 4 wives and 18 starving kids alive.

yes, I am an aussie, got the paper to prove it.
I left that little island partly because of the "indigenous" people there.
Call them coffee coloured, or mud coloured, or faece coloured.
they are poor and stupid enough to become muslims.
no wonder muslims recruit from jails

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 27^th, 2009 at 4:57pm:


OUR immigration policy? OUR freedom of religion? What the hell are you talking about??!! These policies have absolutely nothing to do with  what you identify with. Just a few days ago you were talking about Iraq and Afghansistan as 'OUR' lands being invaded.

You are an alien by heart and mind, even if you were born here. You have no right to claim anything as 'our' in Australian law and custom.

abu - islamics want to change aussie to suit their infantile repressive sexist fantasy.
so they aren't aussies.
you're an islamic, so you're not an aussie.

the west can't cut off sunshine and rain from crops being grown.
mugabe the dictator threw out or murdered the successful WHITE farmers. The loser BLACKS could not farm.
The economy turned to crap, people starved .
that is the sum history of black dictators in africa.

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So we keep hearing.. do you play any other tunes?

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Yeh it really means a lot coming from an immigrant. Go home dropkick.

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That's right they can't. And if the rest of us were as simple minded as yourself, we might think that means the West cannot affect the economic situation in Zimbabwe. But for those who realise that for the past few thousand odd years, most countries have not produced just the goods they need, nor all the goods they do need, but actually engage in this new phenomena called "trade", we'd know that a country can quite easily be isolated and prevented from functoining properly. Especially one as small as Zimbabwe. Also Zimbabwe relied heavily on Tobacco exports, so unless you think people can live on tobacco, then it's not surprising they've declined considerably since being isolated by the West.

Don't get me wrong, Mugabe is a racist scumbag, not unlike yourself, and I detest him and his policies, and he deserves everything he got for his racist policies against the whites in the land redistribution. But the history behind it must also bear some of the blame. Problem is that not unlike Iraq during the sanctions period, the people suffering are not Mugabe or his comrades, it's the average Zimbabwean (Just as Saddam, nor any Baathist suffered from the sanctions, innocent Iraqi civilians did). So this is really a form of terrorism. In effect you harm civilians, so they'll be motivated (terrorised) into working for changes you'd like to see in their government. Instead of taking out your grievances with the guilty party, you take it out on the innocents who have absolutely no ability to control him. Just like those whom you call terrorists in the Islamic world, commit acts of violence against civilians, hoping they'll be scared into making their government behave in a way that suits the instigators of the violence. Same story, different people on each side. And of course different method. But bombs and starvation both have the same desired effect, don't they?

It's estimated by UNICEF that at least half a million Iraqi children died as a direct result of the sanctions. That's about what... 100 9/11's?? Muslim 'terrorists' would take a few centuries just to approach those kinds of figures. Yet in your mind, it doesn't even exist. I'm sure as far as you're concerned, Saddam is responsible for those children's deaths, not those who made the decisions, gave the orders, and literally starved them to death.

As Madeline Albright answered when asked if it was worth it, to pay such a price (ie. half a million kids dying): "Yes I think it's worth it".

Zimbabwe's decline began well before international sanctions, and international sanctions certainly cannot be blamed for collapsing agricultural output caused by compulsory land distribution or for hyperinflation caused by running the printing presses at full tilt.  The international sanctions of course do not help and only worsen the situation for the people, while strengthening Mugabe's claim that Zimbabwe is oppressed by the "racist" West (the same alleged racist West that hasn't lifted a finger to save its own people from this thug).

And where is Sprintcyclist from originally?

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Rubbish. Mugabe has been in power since 1980, and for 20 years he had no problem managing the country and feeding the people. In fact in 1988 he was awarded the Africa Prize for Leadership for the Sustainable End of Hunger. He was also knighted and given countless other honours, titles and awards from the West. The decline of Zimbabwe occured when he implemented the racist land redistribution, not just because of the loss of white farming, but largely because of the sanctions. I'm sure it makes you feel mighty whitey proud to think the entire economy was just propped up by the whites, it simply wasn't the case, the economic downfall is quite obviously the result of the break in international relations. To suggest an economy is merely based on a certain group of farmers, would be a pretty naive view of how an economy works. Although the economy did decline somewhat after the land redistribution, the major decline occured in 2002-2003, when the sanctions came into effect and skyrocketed directly after it and ever since. Between 1999 and 2002, the decline was nowhere near as bad.

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Aotearoa.

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What you mean to say is "he's white, you guys are white, you should be one and the same", yeh?

Are Canadians your compatriots? Or Mexicans? Since they're both ex-colonies of European descent. Sure I think you look down more on Mexico because they've mixed more with their native population, rather than just eradicating them like a native pest... But same deal in the end. Mexicans are what your offspring will be like in a coupla generations time.. lucky you brought the Africans along, since you already wiped out all the natives, nobody left to mix with, if you didn't bring those Afros, not to mention the millions of Mexicans who stream in year in year out 

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Are you sure it's got to do with their interbreeding? It wouldn't have anything to do with thee fact Britain ended up the dominant European power, therefore the 'offspring' of Britain in the new world ended up the more dominant countries in the new world? You don't think if the Spanish had've become the more dominant empire, that Mexico and the other Latin American nations would now be your masters? I don't think interbreeding had anything to do with it, it's more to do with the fortunes of the 'parent' nation.

Americans will eventually all interbreed, and a new race of people will be formed, whether you like it or not, it's bound to happen, it's happening as we speak. I don't think that's going to be your downfall, in fact that'll probably strengthen you, as it'll unite you as a nation with one common culture, heritage, ethnicity. There's plenty of things to worry about before then though, like your hubris and your penchant for angering the rest of the world with your 'cowboy' foreign policy.

I guarantee you there are plenty of Africans with higher IQ's than you. That alone should shut you up. If you want to base people's worth on their IQ, then you'd end up subservient to a Negro at some stage.

Higher IQ's do not guarantee a civilisational success. If this were the case, and if you claim whites have the highest IQ's (although I'm sure you think North Asians have higher), then why is it whites were for so long primtive savages, who used to run around in bear skins with big long spears?

Why is it China, India, Persia, Arabia/Mid-East, North Africa had most of the greatest world civilisations and northern Europe had pretty much none, until now?

The Middle East is known as the cradle of civilisation for a reason. Because civilisations have existed there for thousands upon thousands of years. How long has civilisation existed in Scandanavia? 1000 years? Maximum...

Get over it. Different people dominate at different times. Just because whites happen to be dominating now, doesn't make them genetically more advanced or intelligent. I'm sure if you did IQ tests on Scandanavians and compared them to Malians or Somalians or Arabs about 800 years ago, you would've found the complete reverse to what you describe today. Because back then, their civilisation was much more advanced, they were much more educated and so on, whilst northern Europeans simply were not. They were simpleton barbarians who grunted around fires and pagan shrines.

I think sombody is rigging this pole because i have run the same question on three other forums with very opposing results. Apoo how many computers have you visited

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 31^st, 2009 at 12:19am:

I have nothing to do with storm front as it may be a nationalist forum it is for the pathetic halfway Nationalist and not well suited to the fully fledged far right nationalists, stormfront have so many rules and criteria that ultra nationalists are not well accomadated for on that sight, they would not even allow the use of a swastika avatar, dont you think that is unwelcoming to the true far right. My activities are on enviromental and political forums, and when I do go to true nationalist forums I only call in to get away from the mongrelised forums for a bit of descent conversation. Somthing not easily acheived among the likes of yourself apoo.  

the speling nazzi abu strkies agaiin

a shore wai of prooving yo'ure pointe

sprint, For most people it wouldn't matter so much. But for a supposed nationalist, who has criticised Muslims for not being able to speak/write English properly, it's a pretty important point.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 31^st, 2009 at 12:19am:

Unless he's...   ...

Naaaah surely not....   ....

He's not...    

Is he?

abu  - that is a logical fallacy you are using there.
whether oznat is completely illiterate or not, it has no bearing at all on whether muslims are literate or not.

as many muslims are from poorer uneducated countries, it's likely more would be illiterate.
probably another good reason to stay married to your own colour/culture.

Naturally the emergent new identities (or identity) will function, just as the destruction of the tribe in Europe allowed for the emergence of nations.  Some of us however would prefer to keep our existing identities, and from the perspective of any particular people it is in their interest to perpetuate themselves rather than be subsumed to a larger group and thus destroyed.

CS, none of this makes sense with respect to the question of whether to marry someone of s different skin colour. It doesn't destroy you. It doesn't destroy your children. You are more than your racial or cultural identity. You are clinging onto your subsumtion into a larger group. It is the people who let go of that that forge their own identity.

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You are confusing the surivival of a particular identity with the survival of the people. They are not the same thing. Your whole argument seems to rest on cunfusing the different issues. You only make sense if you equate your very existence with the perpetuation of a cultural identity that was never stable to begin with.

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Again, your knowledge of the scirence has obviously been skewed by the extremists who so readily sacrifice genuine science for dogma. Check your facts first, before building your world view around them. It is easy for people to exploit the difficulties in studying human intelligence in order to mislead. You need to dig a little deeper.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2009 at 12:43am:

The Iron cross and the swastika have been a symbol of the White people since hundreds perhaps thousands of years before the third Reich, and so what if I love Hitler the Third Reich big deal, Abu loves islam and pedophilia do you have any words for him, are you aware of the economic prosperity that was created by the third reich, as more become aware more will yearn the privellidge. One day we may Re nationalisation even through reposetion if nescessary must occur.
Telstra, and our utilitys belong to the people not the greedy filthy rich share holders. We will win they will loose we fight till the death and reproduce good off spring to continue the struggle.  RAHOWA  

oznationalist wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2009 at 6:45am:

Don't flatter yourself, boyo ... What makes you think Germans want you on their side? They're the ones who live with the stigma of cultural disgrace and the eternal question of why the land that gave birth to Kant, Bach, Goethe, Hegel, Beethoven and Einstein would so easily piss their legacies up against a wall. Only a very small handful of Germans could have imagined in 1933 that collectively in less than 10 years they would so completely dishonour their nation, their culture and centuries of ancestral memory. As the by then reformed exile, Kaiser Wilhelm, said of Jewish persecution by the Nazis in 1938, "For the first time, I am ashamed to be a German".

To add a further burden to the baggage, the German people must now suffer the likes of you, kissing their arses from some warped sense of solidarity with the architects of the worst chapter in Germany's long history of contribution to civilisation.

awww what a touching response Yadda, I'm impressed.

You're not just full of hate and vitriol after all, there is a heart beating inside there somewhere.

oznationalist wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2009 at 2:39pm:

Easy to talk trash when you don't know what you're talking about. Nearly all German soldiers weren't Nazis... Just ordinary people caught up in a nightmare... and doing their duty, serving their country. The filth you're tugging your forelocks to were often plain cowards and despised by German soldiers

oznationalist wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 8:24am:

Gee, that must be why SS officers ditched their uniforms in the latter part of the war, to avoid being shot... by their own side.

Loved them? Yeah... until they started murdering people for no reason.

Could explain why your ole great granny nonna and nonno didn't show their faces too often back in the village.

oznationalist wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 11:45am:



Ha ha, got some beauties there... Down-homes swapping their clothes to save SS officers and dying in their place.... Yeh righto.

Italy was not a great friend of Germanic people , particularly after Italy annexed the South Tirol and tried to expel or Italianise the then German speaking minority. It was only political expediency that required Hitler accede to Mussolini's insistence that the South Tirol not be annexed to Germany the way Austria was... Never mind that Italy ultimately betrayed Germany.

Get over this delusion that Nazi Germany did not commit genocide... It did. And if you're descended from Italians, there will be plenty of families related or known to your family who were murdered by Nazis... Whole families, even.

Check out a few from Mauthausen Concentration Camp alone.

http://kz2007.over-blog.com/pages/Gli_Italiani-204626.html

Ha ha, got some beauties there... Down-homes swapping their clothes to save SS officers and dying in their place.... Yeh righto.
Perhaps somtime I may quote some of the storys that I know of
Italy was not a great friend of Germanic people , particularly after Italy annexed the South Tirol and tried to expel or Italianise the then German speaking minority. It was only political expediency that required Hitler accede to Mussolini's insistence that the South Tirol not be annexed to Germany the way Austria was... Never mind that Italy ultimately betrayed Germany.
No it was the work of the traitor Victoor Emanuel who toppled Mosolini! And the descission was so unpoppular that it caused the collapse of the monarch! As for the efforts of antis like yourself anti antis are now here to carry opposition to your lies and trickery, the truth will be taught and your efforts to oppose it will only give the topics more publicity ha ha ha 
Get over this delusion that Nazi Germany did not commit genocide... It did.
What you are refering to is no more proven than the WMDs of Iraq only in them days the media got away with a lot more bull crap like U.F.O hoaxes and other false propaganda! And a growing number of people even preists of the catholic church are coming out and telling the true figures of a few hundred thousand, a grain in the sand compared to the death caused by U.S. and allied bombing
And if you're descended from Italians, there will be plenty of families related or known to your family who were murdered by Nazis... Whole families, even. No my family worked for them they done their laundry and cooked for them, when door knocks were in operation my family was honored and showered with gift like food and soap
As for Mossolini he gave many great living improvements to Italy and it was the partisans (commies) who killed him and his wife I think they even executed the children, you would know you support them kid murderers. And as for the black shirts they are still alive in Italy I personally have one as a friend who comes from Rome and he has visited me here in Australia twice already and hopefuly again.

oznationalist wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 10:25pm:

Well, let's not forget Italian resentment at the presence of German troops on Italian soil, ay?

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That's a curious way you spell Mussolini... Is it a regional dialect?
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You antis are unreal about spelling, it was correct in the first paragraph and errored in the second BIG DEAL GET A LIFE

oznationalist wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 11:27pm:

I would've thought a Mussolini supporter would at least want to do the man's memory the courtesy of spelling his name right... Or maybe you're just making it up on the fly...

I didn't mention any of your other typos.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 4^th, 2009 at 11:27pm:

What are you talking about muslims can have as many wives as they please even if they are only five or six yo, your poeple dont have the credibility to comment on great people like Mussolini.

I'm a proud white racialist skinhead and I'm a National Socialist.

WHITE IS RIGHT.
DEATH TO RACE TRAITORS.