Coral Sea wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:45am:

You would want to be carefull not to impregnate one or your world could come crashing down

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How about everyone just chooses who they want to marry for themselves? How's that for a radical plan?

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It will be for Australians anyway, I'm a mixture of Scottish and Irish, both of my great Grandfathers came to Australia in the mid to late 1800s and I'll guarantee that I'm much darker in skin tone than either of them, its the ENVIROMENT we live in as well that dictates what we look like.
As for eye colors, I've got blue eyes my wife has brown and our son ended up with green out of that mix, he was lucky brown usually dominates over blue, but my point is I doubt many blue eyed people will be walking around in a few hundred years because with the migration of people now days all over the world genes are being mixed like never before. But, is that a bad thing? I don't think so, I think it will just make a stronger human being, if you liken it to dogs, mixed breeds have much less problems and are usually healthier than purebreds.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 7:54am:

Sprint, please... Get your hand off it.

Weren't you a Kiwi once? Aren't Maoris so mixed that there are no full bloods left? No one is more than half Maori these days? Doesn't seem to have affected their identity as Maoris.

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OK, if you prescribe to the theory of evolution we all came out of Africa and we all have a black ancestor.
On the other hand, if you believe in God, where were Adam and Eve born? were they white or Arab in appearance?
Now I know it takes more than a few generations to change color but over time it does seem to have happenned to people based on the environment they lived in.

As for the eyes, well if you  manipulate something anything can happen, but if we left it to the normal genetic changes that happen, I doubt blue eyed people would survive for more than a few more hundred years.

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Quite happy how I look thanks. Unlike yourself, I'm not as fixated on physical characteristics and assigning some supposed link between colours of certain body cells and intellect, or even human worth.

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So let me get this right... you'd like laws that regulate who one can and cannot reproduce with?

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If they're not beneficial, then they'll be swept aside.. sorry. That's the way genetics works, doesn't it?

You should be happy that your progeny will one day benefit from such strengthening of the gene pool.

And surely you must realise, there is no "white nation", it's a load of bollocks. Most whites simply don't subscribe to your ridiculously racist views. You're effectively fighting for the purity & 'survival' of a race which scorns and disowns you. What kind of a futile endeavour is that? Why would you want to preserve something which rejects your very preservation attempt?

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

That is because you have a completely unscientific conception of human biodiversity, and despite abandoning the liberal paradigm by converting to Islam you merely exchanged one universalist miasma for another.  You babble about racism like any other liberal clown.

I'm not sure what's "supposed" about the link you're talking about, as racial variation in intelligence is extremely well documented.  There has been no convergence between the races on general intelligence scores despite tremendous intervention, and of course it has been known for a century that the races differ in brain size.  Recent research has shown different distributions of genes like MCPH1 and ASPM which relate to cognitive function.  Perhaps you believe Allah endowed us all with the same intellectual capacity?

As for human worth, that's a a matter of perspective and distance.  If I was black, then blacks would be worth more to me than whites.  As it is I am white can care more about my fellow whites, and the only black population I have any great concern for is of course American blacks.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

I'm not sure such laws are necessary due to rapidly advancing genetic engineering techniques, but in the past they certainly were and I am very thankful that the United States and other English colonial projects strongly discouraged miscegenation, unlike the Spanish and Portuguese ones.  The results of that are clear for everyone to see.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

Evolution "selects" for traits propagate themselves more successfully, that is to say which are reproduced more.  That does not mean beneficial in the sense most humans conceive of the term.  Since the advent of birth control and liberalism for instance, the less intelligent have propagated themselves  more successfully than the more intelligent.  Is low intelligence beneficial?  

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

What strengthening?  Fertility in the industrialized West has been dysgenic for over a century.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

There are many white nations--including the one you live in.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 1:54pm:

These "ridiculous" views were fairly standard until quite recently, and those of us never gullible enough to swallow liberalism have evolved the views into something more sophisticated due to scientific advances in sociobiology, evolutionary psychology, and population genetics.  And as you well know Abu, liberalism is dying.  Ideals which support the health and rejuvenvation of our people are growing more popular and common, and will ultimately triumph--unless you and your ilk succeed in having us replaced by sundry Mohammedan aliens (or in the case of my country, Mestizo hispanics).

oznationalist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2009 at 2:12pm:
This is tremendously oversimplistic.  The effect of hybridization depends on how inbred the respective breeding populations are and on their genetic distance.  The situation you are referring to is known as outbreeding depression, which tends to occur with greater genetic distance between sufficient diverse populations.  In such hybridization coadapted gene complexes conferring fitness are usually lost.  There is also the possibility of disadvantageous combination of alleles (e.g., while this doesn't happen, imagine a combination of Asian physical abilities with African intelligence).

In different circumstances hybridization can result in hybrid vigor, in which the hybridized variant has superior genetic fitness.  Most commercial seeds are hybrids for instance, as plant lines are very inbred (except for certain "heirloom seeds") to maximize very specifically selected traits.  Note however that farmers buy new hybrid seeds every years, as hybrid vigor tends to disappear by the second generation.

In human hybridization, hybrid vigor does not occur nor does outbreeding depression, though occasionally coadapted gene complexes are lost resulting in the hybrid potentially being more vulnerable to certain diseases.  It's not anything significant however, and the reason to avoid miscegenation is social.

CS - Wait till your family have been caught up in a racist driven political ideology... Wait until your family have by omission or commission been complicit in the implementation of that racist political ideology, are the victims of it or have had to endure it, and then have to live with what they did do or didn't do or should have done before you dribble on safe from the responsibility of having to see what your toxic ideology inflicts on the innocent.