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Reply #15 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 8:09pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 7:42pm:
Many people tend to think of ultra-nationalists as merely harmless crackpots, but I fear they do not fully appreciate just how sick and twisted the minds that fall for this guff, really are.

Any ideology that places a higher premium on where somebody hails from, over what sort of person they are, will always attract the losers whose greatest ambition is to blame their own failings on foreign devils.



Your high-minded and even-handed guff, on the other hand, works only if the 'foreign devils' themselves do not place a premium on where they are hailing from, how radically different they are and how superior, therfore, they are.
But, if history is of any guide, they invariably do.

So, watcha gonna do? Accept their parameters for identity or defend your own? Where does the healthy assertion of one's faith in one's own culture end and ultranationalist irrationality begin? Or is any setting of limits on 'foreign' pressure suspect? Is everybody else good and noble except 'us'?



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Reply #16 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 9:00pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 7:42pm:
Many people tend to think of ultra-nationalists as merely harmless crackpots, but I fear they do not fully appreciate just how sick and twisted the minds that fall for this guff, really are.

Any ideology that places a higher premium on where somebody hails from, over what sort of person they are, will always attract the losers whose greatest ambition is to blame their own failings on foreign devils.

Unfortunately opinions such as yours are only brought about due to bad media and hollywood publicity, in actual fact you would be very suprised if you really new the courtesy and decency that binds many of us. I too once thought upon simmilar lines to yourelf but my oposition to foriegn goods led me into a wonderful tight nit community of people who are alot more civillized than most are lead to beleive. In fact I am good friends with a man who is considered the most evil fascist citizen in our nation, yet he is the nicest person that I have ever met, its so ironic that the media makes him out to be a monster but thats the capitalist society it bags all oposition
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Reply #17 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 9:22pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 8:09pm:
mozzaok wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 7:42pm:
Many people tend to think of ultra-nationalists as merely harmless crackpots, but I fear they do not fully appreciate just how sick and twisted the minds that fall for this guff, really are.

Any ideology that places a higher premium on where somebody hails from, over what sort of person they are, will always attract the losers whose greatest ambition is to blame their own failings on foreign devils.



Your high-minded and even-handed guff, on the other hand, works only if the 'foreign devils' themselves do not place a premium on where they are hailing from, how radically different they are and how superior, therfore, they are.
But, if history is of any guide, they invariably do.

So, watcha gonna do? Accept their parameters for identity or defend your own? Where does the healthy assertion of one's faith in one's own culture end and ultranationalist irrationality begin? Or is any setting of limits on 'foreign' pressure suspect? Is everybody else good and noble except 'us'?




Well its like this if you are not White you can be as racist as you like, but if you are White then it is a crime? and thats how it is in White countries! We give to much
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Reply #18 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 9:26pm
 

oznat - we give in FAR too much.
Esp when considering 1/ others want to come and live here.
Then it HAS to be on our terms.

2/ we have the best society.

3/ other societies do NOT bend an inch
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Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 9:43pm
 
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Why is it when ever anybody gets upset on a forum they allways start to target the slightest spelling mistakes


But it's not a spelling mistake at all, and the fact you don't realise that is even more troubling than the mistake itself. You habitually misuse the term 'whom', and the saddest thing is, it's not even a requirement of modern English.

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So, what's that talk about western occupation of "our lands", then? Freudian slip of the forked tongue?


Of course, if I'm not tied to any specific land, then that means I can't have a home to feel defensive about, does it? Or the homes of my brothers... Only an extremist would see things only in such extremes.

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Reply #20 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 9:48pm
 

abu - you've got no home.

you've left aussie in your heart and have not the guts to go to some fly blown dust strewn islamic sexist racist backward repressive country.

how does the camels piss taste ?
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Reply #21 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 10:07pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 9:43pm:
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So, what's that talk about western occupation of "our lands", then? Freudian slip of the forked tongue?


Of course, if I'm not tied to any specific land, then that means I can't have a home to feel defensive about, does it?


Yes.

You are either at home somewhere - or you can say that you are with your lord who is not tied to any specific country.

You can't ride both the universalist and the nationalist horses with one arse, however Mohamedan that arse may be.


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Reply #22 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 10:41pm
 
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abu - you've got no home.


How about you sprint back over the Tasman and then you can speak, immigrant. As I said, you've got no ground to stand on, coming into my country dictating what I will and won't believe/think. Scoot.

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Apart from Abu. He was born here but his heart moved overseas years ago.


According to your statement, my heart has gone overseas. My statement simply dismissed that as nonsense, since my heart is attached to God, not to any overseas land. My home is Australia, simple.

Now, if you think because I follow a religion which originates in the Middle East, therefore I'm somehow less Australian, then what are you? where did Christianity originate again??? Does it come from the Gold Coast or something?? Perhaps from Parramatta??
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Reply #23 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 11:07pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 10:41pm:
sprint,

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abu - you've got no home.


How about you sprint back over the Tasman and then you can speak, immigrant. As I said, you've got no ground to stand on, coming into my country dictating what I will and won't believe/think. Scoot.

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Apart from Abu. He was born here but his heart moved overseas years ago.


According to your statement, my heart has gone overseas. My statement simply dismissed that as nonsense, since my heart is attached to God, not to any overseas land. My home is Australia, simple.

Now, if you think because I follow a religion which originates in the Middle East, therefore I'm somehow less Australian, then what are you? where did Christianity originate again??? Does it come from the Gold Coast or something?? Perhaps from Parramatta??



Crap analogy, as always.

You are an active denouncer of Australia and an endorser of middle eastern thugogracies.

You are up to your eyeball in geo-political sh!t but you have the ability to still speak, submerged as you are. And you speak out of religion as if it had no geopolitical dimention. As ever, you are jumping in and out of doors, pretending to be neither in nor out. Nobody is deceived by it.
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Reply #24 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 11:25pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 11:07pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Aug 28th, 2009 at 10:41pm:
sprint,

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abu - you've got no home.


How about you sprint back over the Tasman and then you can speak, immigrant. As I said, you've got no ground to stand on, coming into my country dictating what I will and won't believe/think. Scoot.

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Apart from Abu. He was born here but his heart moved overseas years ago.


According to your statement, my heart has gone overseas. My statement simply dismissed that as nonsense, since my heart is attached to God, not to any overseas land. My home is Australia, simple.

Now, if you think because I follow a religion which originates in the Middle East, therefore I'm somehow less Australian, then what are you? where did Christianity originate again??? Does it come from the Gold Coast or something?? Perhaps from Parramatta??



Crap analogy, as always.

You are an active denouncer of Australia and an endorser of middle eastern thugogracies.

You are up to your eyeball in geo-political sh!t but you have the ability to still speak, submerged as you are. And you speak out of religion as if it had no geopolitical dimention. As ever, you are jumping in and out of doors, pretending to be neither in nor out. Nobody is deceived by it.

I could not have said it better myself
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Reply #25 - Aug 28th, 2009 at 11:28pm
 
oznationalist wrote on Aug 14th, 2009 at 11:24am:
How valid is Australian made and owned? I E mailed this question to the Ausrtalian made campaign i had no reply!
I believe that any Australian citizen can own a business and declare that their goods are Australian made and owned, provided that the goods are at least 50% manufactured here, but doesn’t this mean that potentially a Chinese or Indian or any other non White Australian citizen could own a company in Australia do its manufacturing in Australia but then send the takings of to family overseas. This is how it works isn’t it, or is there a safe guard to prevent this from occurring and if so how secure is it. One example that comes to mind is Nerada tea a Queensland Tea Company that I believe is owned by an Indian Australian citizen is this correct. With the booming numbers of Asian Indian and Arabic traders I feel vast sums of Aussie wealth are flooding out of the nation and the only way to combat this epidemic is for us to move with the times by promoting those businesses that are Australian made and owned by Australians whom have no overseas interests like family. The buy Australian made campaign has been running since I was a child but yet in all these years Australian industry and retail have only gone backwards dragging our country into an unsustainable dependence on foreign goods, imports up and up exports down and down, not to mention that most of our exports are not sustainable woodchips coal ect. It is a real shame that throughout and prior to my lifetime we cant seem to ever grasp a truly Nationalist P.M. Well that will be all for now! So am I right are many companies with interests other than in Australia being given the privilege of claiming that they are Australian owned or is this not the case?      
I suspect I am right what do you think, and what do you think of it?

This was the original start to this thread, so what do people think about it, why should non Whites be allowed to claim to own Australian made and owned busineses when they send their money back over seas to family any way
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Reply #26 - Aug 29th, 2009 at 12:08am
 
Noble cause ON, but I'm afraid that the cause is lost.
We're globalised now, nothing except a full on revolution will change that.
The tiers of government who usurp control belong to the most deceitful corporations. We live in a dictatorship.

All of those who have fought and died for this nation have done so in vain. It's now dog eat dog.
I hope that you do what you can to undermine the charlatons, there's plenty that you can do to exploit them  Wink
Keep a low profile and pull the mat from under their feet when you can, they'll never expect it when they don't see it coming. Don't make too many complaints or you'll raise awareness.
Being a passive enemy is their worst nightmare. As long as you are costing them money, you are winning. Make sure that you cost them plenty money. Easily done.i
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Reply #27 - Aug 29th, 2009 at 1:34am
 
soren, two challenges, both of which I know you cannot handle...

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You are an active denouncer of Australia and an endorser of middle eastern thugogracies.


1) Show me which Middle Eastern 'thugogcracy' I ever endorsed.

2) Tell me the origin of your religion. Is it from Australia? Or even Europe? Or is it from the Middle East, as is mine? (note: This is the second time you've been asked this, don't be such a sloppy dodger again).

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I could not have said it better myself


I believe that, with your pathetic English skills, you couldn't have.  Grin

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Noble cause ON


So you are a believer in the same despicable white supremacist crap this poor excuse for a nationalist is spewing forth?
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Reply #28 - Aug 29th, 2009 at 2:16am
 
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So you are a believer in the same despicable white supremacist crap this poor excuse for a nationalist is spewing forth?


Abu, I am a believer in what my forefathers died fighting for.
It's not for this multiculturalism crap, it's not for feminism, but it is for a fair and open society where men and women can be their natuiral selves.
I do not celebrate ANZAC day, I despise it as a failure.
I do not condone Islamic loser freaks invading our nation. They have been proven losers, what more proof do they need?

If this country is to become a capitalist venture and nothing else, then I will take all that I can, and then some, from this pathetic mentality.
My relatives won't die in vain because of me, that is assured.







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Reply #29 - Aug 29th, 2009 at 7:12am
 
Amadd wrote on Aug 29th, 2009 at 12:08am:
Noble cause ON, but I'm afraid that the cause is lost.
We're globalised now, nothing except a full on revolution will change that.
The tiers of government who usurp control belong to the most deceitful corporations. We live in a dictatorship.

All of those who have fought and died for this nation have done so in vain. It's now dog eat dog.
I hope that you do what you can to undermine the charlatons, there's plenty that you can do to exploit them  Wink
Keep a low profile and pull the mat from under their feet when you can, they'll never expect it when they don't see it coming. Don't make too many complaints or you'll raise awareness.
Being a passive enemy is their worst nightmare. As long as you are costing them money, you are winning. Make sure that you cost them plenty money. Easily done.i

As long as people like ourselves are around it is not a lost cause but more a cause worth fighting for until the very end, I am very impressed with your assesment and expect us both to continue spreading the truth and streightening out the backward thinking that runs through the minds of people these days, There is a lot we can do
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