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Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:05am
 
Here is the thing the USA for years led the world in everything because we were one of the most capitalistic societies in the world and still are however the demographics are changing and the democratic (socialist) party has taken over. Blacks and Latinos vote overwhelmingly democrat. Australia has more economic freedom in everyway except for income tax but after Obama raises them to 45% it will be even. I am hoping that Kevin Rudd will lose the next election and the liberal party will take over and stop the slide Australia is in. USA lost 3 things a county has to have. Borders, language, culture. We didn't secure our boarders we don't have a singular language and we lost our culture of self reliance. I feel like Australia has a better hope. Although I wish you wouldn't have passed in 1973 the right for any refugees to come in as they please. You should only let in skilled workers. I am a free market free mind guy. I believe in a hands off approach from government in both economic and personal endeavors. Our socialist party is destroying capitalism. Australia is my first choice of countries to go too. I am trying to start a push for more americans to come to Australia. We are highly intelligent and hard working. We believe in liberty. Thanks let me know some places to move to and work
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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:35am
 
I don't mind Americans, but they'll come here for the same reasons most anybody will immigrate to anywhere - economic.

Personally, I'd say that Melbourne is the best city to come to. Not because I live here, but because it's better suited to immigrants that want to make a go of it. The weather is pretty changeable, so u need a selection of outfits prepared well in advance.

For a bit of a punt (taking a chance moneywise), Perth would be my choice if I were in your shoes. Warm/hot weather, lovely girls, growing opportunity, more relaxed lifestyle.
It's in the middle of nowhere, but so was Las Vegas. I've never met anybody who didn't enjoy Perth.




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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:51am
 
I must say this news of Somali muslims is making me nervous. LOL From what I gather a large percentage of the aborigines use their race for victim status and blame all of the shortcomings on prejudice and suppression even though in reality it is their lack of work ethic and skill that is responsible for their situations. They live off of the government and want handouts and special privileges. John Howard was criticized when he said that a country has the right to decide who it does and does not let in, well he was right. You should let in skilled workers not people who will leach off the system and drag it down. Somali muslims who have to steal and kill for everything they get is not what one should which to acquire as citizens.
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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:52am
 
Amadd wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 2:35am:
I don't mind Americans, but they'll come here for the same reasons most anybody will immigrate to anywhere - economic.

Personally, I'd say that Melbourne is the best city to come to. Not because I live here, but because it's better suited to immigrants that want to make a go of it. The weather is pretty changeable, so u need a selection of outfits prepared well in advance.

For a bit of a punt (taking a chance moneywise), Perth would be my choice if I were in your shoes. Warm/hot weather, lovely girls, growing opportunity, more relaxed lifestyle.
It's in the middle of nowhere, but so was Las Vegas. I've never met anybody who didn't enjoy Perth.






Thanks man, I appreciate the info
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Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:05am
 
I can't judge aborigines on their reaction to the way which we've forced them to adapt to our ideas.
They owned this country before we stole it from them. They might have had a better future in store, but we'll never know that because the Christian God does not truly believe in equality for all.
Nomatter what we try to do for them, we can never make it right because their path was less greedy.
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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:12am
 
Amadd wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:05am:
I can't judge aborigines on their reaction to the way which we've forced them to adapt to our ideas.
They owned this country before we stole it from them. They might have had a better future in store, but we'll never know that because the Christian God does not truly believe in equality for all.
Nomatter what we try to do for them, we can never make it right because their path was less greedy.


Amercan citizen view of aboriges in a generalisation but defintely not completely untrue, I also agree with what you say. At the end of the day the money and opportunities aborigines are given are fine by me, they deserve it more than these violent thieving imports.
I like your thinking A.C close the borders bring in earners not bludgers
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Reply #6 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:13am
 
Less greedy...how just because the Australian whites set up business and infrastructures does that make them greedy? Are they really peaceful loving people or do they commit the majority of crimes especially violent crimes?
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Reply #7 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:17am
 
Americancitizen87 wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:13am:
Less greedy...how just because the Australian whites set up business and infrastructures does that make them greedy? Are they really peaceful loving people or do they commit the majority of crimes especially violent crimes?



Thanks man there is a large percentage of americans who are like me but now we are in the minority. The outlet we have is talk radio. Rupert Murdock also is a pioneer in television here and has a great news empire. Rupert is a little more liberal leaning (labour party for australians) that me but he is the best out of american media owners
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At the end of the day the money and opportunities aborigines are given are fine by me, they deserve it more than these violent thieving imports.


If it wasn't us who stole away their way of life, it would've been somedody else. That doesn't make it any more right, but it does highlight that "survival of the fittest" is something that should not be ignored by any stretch.
Disregarding religions, most people would feel a bit guilty that the aboriginals never had the chance to progress normally. Their outcome can never be known, so it's not worth trying to make ammends for.
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Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:47am
 
I can't wait to see the abuse we are going to cop, and names we are going to be labelled with tommorrow by the "politicaly correct" members of this forum.
You can help people as much as you want, give them the world and platform to excell, but if they don't possess the will power or intelligence to utilise what they are given then tough luck, they will die in the same squalor in which they were born, tuff Sh1t let them. We need to focus on the people who want to better the quality of their life and contribute to bettering others in the process. Colour, race or religion really never needs to be taken into consideration on any issues, only an individuals contribution to humanity. Give and take is akin to yin and yang
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Rupert is a little more liberal leaning (labour party for australians) that me but he is the best out of american media owners


Australia has traditionally always been far more left wing than the U.S.
Murdoch is seen as a right winger here. Our current "left wing" government is far more right wing than any government we've ever experienced here.
Historically, right wing idealisms have always failed because of the simple fact that humans are innately selfish. Left wing idealism understands that simple fact.
I don't think that we have "evolved" from anything due to religions, philosophies, idealisms, politics, dreams..or whatever.
However, education does advance us all IMO. The free will to choose when provided factual information does advance the quality of the decisions made.
You can be "one pointed" and say that capitalism is the true worth of humanity because it agrees with your ideas, but also you are disregarding the worth of humanity that has come before you or that which may come after.
A true belief in equality will let others follow their own path, but too many times that path eventually crosses other paths.
IMO it comes down to the wisdom of balance...just like Buddha said.


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Reply #11 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 4:00am
 
If this generates controversy than that's pathetic. This is every day talk in the USA. The problem is we have too many people dependent on the govt and that is who controls the vote unfortunately here now. For this not to happen in australia you need to control your boarders so the scum that is coming over don't have generations of dependent voters who will constantly vote for the treasury to give them other people's money. The elites at your universities and politicians don't care about the average person as long as they have more power and authority!!
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Reply #12 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 4:07am
 
Amadd wrote on Aug 6th, 2009 at 3:59am:
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Rupert is a little more liberal leaning (labour party for australians) that me but he is the best out of american media owners


Australia has traditionally always been far more left wing than the U.S.
Murdoch is seen as a right winger here. Our current "left wing" government is far more right wing than any government we've ever experienced here.
Historically, right wing idealisms have always failed because of the simple fact that humans are innately selfish. Left wing idealism understands that simple fact.
I don't think that we have "evolved" from anything due to religions, philosophies, idealisms, politics, dreams..or whatever.
However, education does advance us all IMO. The free will to choose when provided factual information does advance the quality of the decisions made.
You can be "one pointed" and say that capitalism is the true worth of humanity because it agrees with your ideas, but also you are disregarding the worth of humanity that has come before you or that which may come after.
A true belief in equality will let others follow their own path, but too many times that path eventually crosses other paths.
IMO it comes down to the wisdom of balance...just like Buddha said.



Everybody acts in their own self interest. I just believe in a system where when one acts in their own self interest it benefits others in a capitalist free market you benefit yourself by having a product good or service that other people want. This lifts the quality of life for all. Is there something more virtuous about a politician who acts in his self interest to attain votes as opposed to man making a product good or service. In every single case when the government gets involved it hurts the quality of life for it's individuals. I'm about freedom and the freedom for one to live their life without the government's involvement. Maybe this is a trait of my southeastern american background. But if you look at countries when capitalism is embraced USA, hong kong australia the quality of life is much better than say Cuba or Zimbabwe.
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Reply #13 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 4:39am
 
I agree that everybody acts in their own self interest. That self interest also extends to the children of tbe self-interested.

The point is that you're assuming your opiion to be ultimately correct.
You're not allowing anybody else to prove themselves.
The slower path may ultimately turn out to be the most correct for the futrue of humanity, but you'd never know or care because they will be squashed and you will be king.
Your idea of God's will may be different that of others, but does it really make your God bigger than their God?





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Reply #14 - Aug 6th, 2009 at 4:44am
 
What are you talking about? I am giving my opinion. What should I not state how I feel or think? I don't want to be king of anybody I want people to be free and free of government both in their personal decisions to live their lives and with their money.
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