Real estate prices are high? I mean, if you're planning on living in Sydney or Perth, yes, but otherwise they aren't at all.

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Well there are certainly many Iraqis that would agree with you on that point.

But seriously, just how brainwashed are people if they think private enterprise is always going to deliver the best outcomes, in any modern, progressive society, it takes both working well to deliver all that we aim for in the 21st century.

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I don't really think it's a matter of brainwashing. If you actually bother to spend the time to examine both the historical and present record, you would find that it's actually a fairly reasonable inference to make. Governments, both theoretically and in reality, have almost always time and time again proven themselves to be completely incompetent in comparison to the private sector. I'm not saying that government has no role in these matters, but the near infinite litany of horror stories and anecdotes of examples of gross incompetence coming from workers in the public sector makes me extremely questioning of how large, if any size at all, that role should be.

You only have to have wrestled with the incompetent, listless morons at Centrelink to realize that this is mostly true.

tallowood wrote on Aug 5^th, 2009 at 10:02pm:


Yes it's pretty much a private operation payed for by it's supporters, just like religions - free opinion costs nothing for athiests btw.

What amazes me is how soon people forget the nature of capitalism. Not that I think it's a bad thing, but there needs to be the control of a wider voice, ie: the general public.
Have we forgotten already that out of control greed has been the primary factor in this current meltdown?

What is certain, is that any capitilist venture will exploit people for further profits if allowed to gain total control in some area. That's just the nature of business. Business needs to be a tool for people, not the contoller.
It seems that Amer..87 either doesn't beileve that to be true, or is in agreeance with the concept of eventual world control by capitalist ventures.

The necessities that Australians once owned ( and for very good reason) have been sold off by those who we supposebly voted in to be the managers of our money and our future.
We're now in a state of bluff which pretences that we are unable to provide for ourselves and be free thinking individuals without the need to perpetually chase the carrots put in front of us.
But "yes we can  ". There's no reason why small communities, or even individuals, can't  be self-sufficient if they so desire, thereby negating the need to bow to capitalist control, which is really only a submission to being a slave for the pleasure of others.i

Yes the Labour party tries to give them a handout to I bet. Take it from an American who has seen the great state of california become a gang welfare state. Close your borders only let skilled workers in.

That is terrible man I didn't know it was that bad. It is like there here with a large percentage of blacks. They live in government houses and get food and healthcare payed for. Ya'll gotta get rid of Kevin Rudd before he apologizes again or worse....reprimations

The stupid Labour party policy in 1973. You know why they let them in......future voters!!! The labour party tries to act like their for the middle class and poor but all they see is giving the new unskilled immigrants a handout in exchange for a vote!!! I know how that works you Australians are good people unfortunately your rendezvous with this a new great land is all to familiar with me and I can tell you from our past mistakes how this will play out if not stopped immediately.